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Old 16 July 2013, 06:05 PM
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Default If you are buying a used car from a main stealer, how much discount should u ask for?

I just test drove a Scirocco.

Not totally convinced I should trade in for it but what should I be offering if I am? I HATE dealing with car salesman.
Old 16 July 2013, 06:23 PM
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None, there is not a lot of profit in new cars these days and the only way most salesman make commission now is through finance and add-ons. They'll give you the best deal possible just to get some business nowadays.
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Hi just wondering if anyone can help me. My subaru is not running right. Every time I open it up it has no power and if I let the throttle go fast then put my foot back down fast it has power and sometimes if I change gear at hight revs it backfires and sometimes the check engine light will come on for a few seconds the the car has no power. It a 1997 impreza turbo 2000. Many thanks
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Originally Posted by Andyjoneswrx
Hi just wondering if anyone can help me. My subaru is not running right. Every time I open it up it has no power and if I let the throttle go fast then put my foot back down fast it has power and sometimes if I change gear at hight revs it backfires and sometimes the check engine light will come on for a few seconds the the car has no power. It a 1997 impreza turbo 2000. Many thanks
Could be anything, ignition/timing would be a possibility. Start your own thread if you want.
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Originally Posted by Andyjoneswrx
Hi just wondering if anyone can help me. My subaru is not running right. Every time I open it up it has no power and if I let the throttle go fast then put my foot back down fast it has power and sometimes if I change gear at hight revs it backfires and sometimes the check engine light will come on for a few seconds the the car has no power. It a 1997 impreza turbo 2000. Many thanks
Bit random putting this on some one else's thread!!
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I'm new to this I haven't a clue how to make my own thread
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Originally Posted by Andyjoneswrx
I'm new to this I haven't a clue how to make my own thread
Click the button on the left where it says 'new thread'.

Then add title and message text.

The click 'submit'.
Old 16 July 2013, 07:12 PM
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My Impreza keeps on steering itself into the Shell garage, does anyone think the steering rack is on it's way out, or could it be a rogue track rod end?
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
I just test drove a Scirocco.

Not totally convinced I should trade in for it but what should I be offering if I am? I HATE dealing with car salesman.
You have to be cheeky & ask for a discount. How much is obviously dependant on the value of the car.
I'd definitely start by asking for at least 10%
Never known any salesman expect to get the screen price.
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The postman keeps posting letters through my bonnet scoop, do you think I should complain to Royal Mail or just board it up with some plywood?
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Originally Posted by IggyRB320
You have to be cheeky & ask for a discount. How much is obviously dependant on the value of the car.
I'd definitely start by asking for at least 10%
Never known any salesman expect to get the screen price.
10% is heaps. Isn't that their profit margin?
Old 16 July 2013, 07:30 PM
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I've seen loads of used car valuations that are far above 10% of screen price. I rarely get a car from a dealer, if I do I always get an exceptional deal.
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Ask for as much as you dare, be cheeky & haggle. Look on the net for offers elsewhere & try to get the salesman to beat it. You normally get a better offer with no PX as dealerships just see it as a PIA these days. If you don't ask you don't get.
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I was just having a look at the webuyanycar price and it is £600 more than the trade in price I was offered for my Golf lol. I'm sure they would try and chip a few quid or for the couple of minor scratches the car has though. Plus the £75 transaction fee.

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It took me 18 months to get the deal I wanted on my Cosworth. I have only hurried into one car before and I'll never do that again (!).

The car you buy is always worth the price you have in your head (or the cost to change, monthly payment, total outlay whatever you want to call it).

I came across several garages who were on cloud cuckoo land with their prices, eventually I got an offer that was better than I thought I could get.
Old 16 July 2013, 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by thenewgalaxy
It took me 18 months to get the deal I wanted on my Cosworth. I have only hurried into one car before and I'll never do that again (!).

The car you buy is always worth the price you have in your head (or the cost to change, monthly payment, total outlay whatever you want to call it).

I came across several garages who were on cloud cuckoo land with their prices, eventually I got an offer that was better than I thought I could get.
Well I suppose that's cos cossies are rare. I sometimes browse pistonheads and see wild prices wanted by dealers for various modified cars, they seem to think that a 5k engine build 2 years ago = 5k more on the asking price lol. Dream on.

Actually I was only semi-thinking of buying a Scirrocco, I just wanted to see what they were like really. To be honest I liked it as a car, felt quite responsive and planted, but the 200 hp was ok but not great. Does have plenty of torque at low revs but redlines at 6 k IIRC which makes it a really lazy petrol engine. Not much of a note to speak of either. The cabin is well sound-proofed which is good and bad.
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And they look like a wimmens car
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Sciroccos are common so you should IMHO be able to negotiate more on the price. They're very nice cars but not the emperor's new clothes so to speak.

If the dealer wants a quick sale you'll be able to negotiate!
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Originally Posted by belliott69
They'll give you the best deal possible just to get some business nowadays.
Nonsense!

Salesmen will rob you blind given half a chance
Old 17 July 2013, 11:23 AM
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A few weeks back my son-in-law passed his test and his mother insisted on buying their family a car.

Honda Jazz advertised on the forecourt at £3,000.
She told the salesman that she had £1,000 cash on her.

He said "Make it 1600 and it's a deal". That's over 45% off !

I always refer to Parkers Guide and then trawl relevent ads to get a good idea of the price to expect.
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I sold my car with wewantanycar.com in the end. I got £500 less than what I was going to advertise it private, and £850 more than the VW dealers offered to PX it for. I'm fairly happy with that 'cos my work schedule makes it very hard to have the time to sell cars. I think I could have got another £200, but I'm a rubbish haggler, and webuyanycar.com only offered £250 less than wewantanycar.com, so I was short of options.

Moral is that main dealers will shaft you hard on the PX.
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Originally Posted by mrmadcap
The postman keeps posting letters through my bonnet scoop, do you think I should complain to Royal Mail or just board it up with some plywood?
This made me LOL
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
10% is heaps. Isn't that their profit margin?
And why she the OP as a buyer care about the dealerships margins?!!!!!!!
Old 17 July 2013, 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
I sold my car with wewantanycar.com in the end. I got £500 less than what I was going to advertise it private, and £850 more than the VW dealers offered to PX it for. I'm fairly happy with that 'cos my work schedule makes it very hard to have the time to sell cars. I think I could have got another £200, but I'm a rubbish haggler, and webuyanycar.com only offered £250 less than wewantanycar.com, so I was short of options.

Moral is that main dealers will shaft you hard on the PX.
This just about sums it up, vultures such as webuyanycar.com willing to cough up more than a dealer will allow in p/x.
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Originally Posted by LuckyWelshchap
This just about sums it up, vultures such as webuyanycar.com willing to cough up more than a dealer will allow in p/x.
Yeah I was shocked. You'd thing VW would want to keep customers but it's all one sale at a time even if they shaft people.

Before I would have thought a main dealer would offer you a better PX than the webuyanycars.
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Unless you're hell bent on having a new car(It's only new the day you buy it.After that it's a used car.) the biggest discount is to buy nearly new.Save thousands & still have all the benefits of warranty etc.

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Originally Posted by legb4rsk
Unless you're hell bent on having a new car(It's only new the day you buy it.After that it's a used car.) the biggest discount is to buy nearly new.Save thousands & still have all the benefits of warranty etc.
Good point that.

Wife's Corsa CDTi. I think they were/are about £12k brand new (?)
15 months old, 13k on the clock, £6995.

Still got (had) 21 months Vauxhall warranty on it, and no MoT to worry about.

Hoping to p/x it after 18 mths as a good proportion against another.
And now we've got webuyanycar to fall back on...........

Just what is the point of buying new ?
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