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Old 23 April 2013, 09:32 PM
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Default Harvey smith up pipe??

Anyone know anyone who might make these? Or something like them off the shelf?

My up pipes blown, an needs a replacement. It's all been mapped up etc.

I've heard there pretty good, but hard to get hold of. What are the benefits with these pipes?

Thanks in advance
Old 23 April 2013, 09:44 PM
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Contact Alyn. He is looking after this now.

https://www.facebook.com/ASPerformanceUK

Goes by the name of Stockcar on here

https://www.scoobynet.com/traders-co...rformance.html
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Better, quicker spool, more torque.
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sorry to change subject slightly here chaps, but why cant you just take the standard one off, smash the cat out and refit that one?

i have thought about doing this to mine when i come to remap it.
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Got a rcm up pipe here mate
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You can De-Cat the std pipe but the bore ends up bigger than optimum in most cases. The internal bore of the Harvey pipes is carefully designed to give optimum exhaust gas velocity to the turbo therefore reducing spool.
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Originally Posted by BlueBugEye
You can De-Cat the std pipe but the bore ends up bigger than optimum in most cases. The internal bore of the Harvey pipes is carefully designed to give optimum exhaust gas velocity to the turbo therefore reducing spool.
That's what I've been hearing. I've pm'd AS performance, no reply yet?

I'm looking at a new HKS up pipe at the mo, supposed to be VERY good on reports, synopses proven spool increases. Just a case now of which is cheaper.
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Originally Posted by Steve Whitehorn
Contact Alyn. He is looking after this now.

https://www.facebook.com/ASPerformanceUK

Goes by the name of Stockcar on here

https://www.scoobynet.com/traders-co...rformance.html
this is our Traders account on here which is better and easier to contact us through.............
or call the office direct on 0191-4103770

https://www.scoobynet.com/trader-ann...d-headers.html
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Originally Posted by scoobaru mad
That's what I've been hearing. I've pm'd AS performance, no reply yet?

I'm looking at a new HKS up pipe at the mo, supposed to be VERY good on reports, synopses proven spool increases. Just a case now of which is cheaper.
Go for the Harvey one.
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Originally Posted by alcazar
Go for the Harvey one.

Im going to . I'm off on holiday on Friday, so when I get back. I'll order one! Bloody marvellous

Cheers guys, much appreciated.
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Cheers for the info chaps.

how much difference will it make to the spool?
i guess i dont want any more lag tbh. not in a position to fiddle with the car yet anyway, but i can ask questions lol
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Headers and up-pipe made circa 400rpm earlier spool on mine. With a change in up-pipe I'd reccomend a map check as they can make quite a difference!
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well, if/when i am ready to, ill do a full decat, fuel pump and get bob rawle to remap it

but that wont be for a good while yet, gotta finish the house first lol
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Mine, with a TD05 20g and a 2.5 in it, is producing 1 bar of boost well under 3000rpm.
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Originally Posted by alcazar
Mine, with a TD05 20g and a 2.5 in it, is producing 1 bar of boost well under 3000rpm.
soz to cut in but after a up pipe two,,for my type r 2.5 hybrid classic,,as ive got my 740cc injectors off a lad on here to fit,got them today ;] they are yellow tho,,got a bit worry'd cos they same as my 440s lol,,do they do 740cc yellows ye?,,and got a mitsi td05 20g to fit so thinking of a harvey up pipe two.to cut down on the lag.and use a standard headers. even tho ive got anti lag haha. how much are the harvey up pipe £££ ?? ..eny1?? then andrew carr to come bk to live mapp it again ,hoping for 380-400bhp :]

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still not in a position to mess with the car yet, but out of interest, does anyone know what the internal diameter of the HS uppipe is, and that of the std uppipe? (minus cat?)

cheers! longshot i know!!
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Originally Posted by Fudgey
still not in a position to mess with the car yet, but out of interest, does anyone know what the internal diameter of the HS uppipe is, and that of the std uppipe? (minus cat?)

cheers! longshot i know!!
do these scoobys have 2 cats i take it then???as i didnt no the up pipe had a cat,,as i got a turbo back nur spek r (no cat),,,how much are the harvey 1s????
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Contact Alyn at AS Performance for a price for a Harvey up-pipe. They ARE worth the money, that's why Alyn now sells them instead of allowing the design to disappear after Harvey's untimely death.
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Originally Posted by alcazar
Better, quicker spool, more torque.
spot on - exactly what i noticed on mines when i had the Harvey ported headers and 2 bolt up-pipe fitted.

Car feels/breathes and drives more freely.
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Originally Posted by andy beffro
do these scoobys have 2 cats i take it then???as i didnt no the up pipe had a cat,,as i got a turbo back nur spek r (no cat),,,how much are the harvey 1s????

there are 3 cats in total i believe (please correct if i am wrong!)

one in the uppipe from headers to turbo (can break up and cause problems)
one in the turbo down pipe
and one in the center section.

as for prices, i have no idea im afraid
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I can only echo the comments above, I had a set of Harvey's headers and uppipe put on my car with a vf34 last week and the difference in driveability is night and day. I know some of this will be down to the turbo but it seems an easier car to drive now and a lot smoother when your down the revs.
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Originally Posted by Fudgey
there are 3 cats in total i believe (please correct if i am wrong!)

one in the uppipe from headers to turbo (can break up and cause problems)
one in the turbo down pipe
and one in the center section.

as for prices, i have no idea im afraid
Depends on the model. Newage sti's and classics (i think) don't have the cat in the uppipe.
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Good point!!

looking at the OP's avatar that is a bug, and mine is also a bug, i was generalising about those i guess!

but your correct on the newage STI having a catless uppipe. (i know fa about the classic tho!)
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Originally Posted by Fudgey
still not in a position to mess with the car yet, but out of interest, does anyone know what the internal diameter of the HS uppipe is, and that of the std uppipe? (minus cat?)

cheers! longshot i know!!

Internal diameter on the upipe I got from AS performance was a tad over 46mm, way more than I was expecting.

But, my oem wrx classic up pipe was in 2 pieces, at the flexi. An that part is fixed.

However, I now think I've gota blown turbo. Cos something is really badly blowing from around the turbo area
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Could just be one of the gaskets, need to fit new ones if you change anything in that area.
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I was planning to get an sti uppipe. Is the harvey pipe better for wrx with td04 ??
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Originally Posted by scoobaru mad
Internal diameter on the upipe I got from AS performance was a tad over 46mm, way more than I was expecting.

But, my oem wrx classic up pipe was in 2 pieces, at the flexi. An that part is fixed.

However, I now think I've gota blown turbo. Cos something is really badly blowing from around the turbo area
Cool cheers for that bud. Was just wondering how they help spool thats all.
Is that the same diameter then of the turbo inlet and header outlet?

Sort of port matched?

As for it blowing, does it sound like a tractor at all?
Is there any smoke?
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Originally Posted by bigballs
I was planning to get an sti uppipe. Is the harvey pipe better for wrx with td04 ??
Harvey pipe gives better spool from lower down.
Put it with ported headers for the best result.
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the up-pipes vary in size depending on exact spec/turbo/etc...................
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Originally Posted by AS Performance
the up-pipes vary in size depending on exact spec/turbo/etc...................
Alan, is there an improved uppipe for the standard sti turbo on an 05 blob?


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