£460 road tax.....
25 February 2013, 10:51 PM
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£460 road tax.....
posted in scoobynet general but not just applicable to scooby's, i find it disgusting that i have to pay this amount in road tax. i would honestly pay this much, happily, if the roads were in good condition and i didn't have to swerve to the other side of the road to avoid a 6 inch deep pot hole that would rip a wheel off if hit at speed. where the hell is all this money going??? btw, my local council sent me a map of my local area with a red pen asking me to colour in any areas of the road that need addressing. needless to say, i coloured in every road in red and promptly posted it back to them...
25 February 2013, 11:15 PM
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I don't understand why diesels are so cheap to tax. Yes CO2 is less than a petrol engine but we've all been behind diesels and seen of the sh*tty carbon particulates that they spit out the back. If tax was based on anything but CO2 then am sure that diesels would cost more..
25 February 2013, 11:36 PM
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At £460 its still only £1.26 a DAY
I know people who pay more for $ky TV.
IMHO suck it it up or sell it for some eco-box....the fuel bill is far far far higher than the road tax, even in the M band.
Of course, where the tax get spent is the problem, not the net amount.
I know people who pay more for $ky TV.
IMHO suck it it up or sell it for some eco-box....the fuel bill is far far far higher than the road tax, even in the M band.
Of course, where the tax get spent is the problem, not the net amount.
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25 February 2013, 11:47 PM
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im only complaining about the cost because of the state of the roads, i would happily pay twice the amount if the roads were decent!!! **** having a prius or something crap like that lol!
26 February 2013, 07:42 AM
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I don't understand why diesels are so cheap to tax. Yes CO2 is less than a petrol engine but we've all been behind diesels and seen of the sh*tty carbon particulates that they spit out the back. If tax was based on anything but CO2 then am sure that diesels would cost more..
26 February 2013, 08:37 AM
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Neither are cars - it's all the people on the planet breathing out CO2, farming animals (methane is worse than CO2) and ripping down rainforests for food.
I believe more CO2 is exhaled by humans than produced by cars.
I believe more CO2 is exhaled by humans than produced by cars.
26 February 2013, 12:00 PM
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Yes the government don't want you to drive that particular model of vehicle because they dont like it. The fact you want to drive it because you like it, and its a good car for the type of rough roads they provide us with is of no interest to them.
I suggest you find a way to get your own back as clearly they enjoy mugging you off.
Personally I have bought a 1959 pickup with a separate chassis and am doing a complete body swap to bring it up to modern standards. Then it will be both Mot & tax exempt and I will happily drive around belching out emissions through un catalysed exhaust system. This is okay btw. because the government are really clever and they say its okay so it must be, so just in case anyone was thinking thats a bit silly its not alrighty!
Oh and I bought a van size trailer rather than a small van because they cant figure out how to MOT or tax trailers (yet) and I load all manner of craap in there and drive around with a big grin on my face! Also this is fine because I use more fuel towing the trailer than a van alone does, and I take up more space on the road, and I am more of a danger to other road users because I cant stop as quick. This is what they want you to do because its better, okay?!
Also I bought an electric bike using the government scheme which paid for half of it (£500) and have currently done 3000 miles commuting on it saving 6000 miles in fuel duty (its twice as far to drive as I can blast along the cyclepaths legally and without a helmet on an e-bike). I think overall that puts the government coffers down significantly. Glad to hear my contribution to a cleaner Britain comes with such a great personal financial reward.
Honestly, find other ways to beat the system and you will feel a lot better about paying out from one hand if you can take back using the other.
Basically begin to rage a personal war against the powers that control you lol! Learn to use the system to your advantage my friend, its liberating!
I suggest you find a way to get your own back as clearly they enjoy mugging you off.
Personally I have bought a 1959 pickup with a separate chassis and am doing a complete body swap to bring it up to modern standards. Then it will be both Mot & tax exempt and I will happily drive around belching out emissions through un catalysed exhaust system. This is okay btw. because the government are really clever and they say its okay so it must be, so just in case anyone was thinking thats a bit silly its not alrighty!
Oh and I bought a van size trailer rather than a small van because they cant figure out how to MOT or tax trailers (yet) and I load all manner of craap in there and drive around with a big grin on my face! Also this is fine because I use more fuel towing the trailer than a van alone does, and I take up more space on the road, and I am more of a danger to other road users because I cant stop as quick. This is what they want you to do because its better, okay?!
Also I bought an electric bike using the government scheme which paid for half of it (£500) and have currently done 3000 miles commuting on it saving 6000 miles in fuel duty (its twice as far to drive as I can blast along the cyclepaths legally and without a helmet on an e-bike). I think overall that puts the government coffers down significantly. Glad to hear my contribution to a cleaner Britain comes with such a great personal financial reward.
Honestly, find other ways to beat the system and you will feel a lot better about paying out from one hand if you can take back using the other.
Basically begin to rage a personal war against the powers that control you lol! Learn to use the system to your advantage my friend, its liberating!
Quality, Bravo to you Sir 
26 February 2013, 01:27 PM
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posted in scoobynet general but not just applicable to scooby's, i find it disgusting that i have to pay this amount in road tax. i would honestly pay this much, happily, if the roads were in good condition and i didn't have to swerve to the other side of the road to avoid a 6 inch deep pot hole that would rip a wheel off if hit at speed. where the hell is all this money going??? btw, my local council sent me a map of my local area with a red pen asking me to colour in any areas of the road that need addressing. needless to say, i coloured in every road in red and promptly posted it back to them...
26 February 2013, 01:27 PM
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lol ......I hate being mugged off as well
Right, moff to sell the car I'm sure I've got a couple of old Lithium batteries laying about, just need to find the bike.
......I hate being mugged off as well Right, moff to sell the car I'm sure I've got a couple of old Lithium batteries laying about, just need to find the bike.
26 February 2013, 01:37 PM
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I Love my December 05 registered Hawk STI, thanks revolution motorstore, £260 per year.
Though I agree with the general comments, the roads don't see enough of the money back for repairs etc.
Though I agree with the general comments, the roads don't see enough of the money back for repairs etc.
26 February 2013, 01:44 PM
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Yes the government don't want you to drive that particular model of vehicle because they dont like it. The fact you want to drive it because you like it, and its a good car for the type of rough roads they provide us with is of no interest to them.
I suggest you find a way to get your own back as clearly they enjoy mugging you off.
Personally I have bought a 1959 pickup with a separate chassis and am doing a complete body swap to bring it up to modern standards. Then it will be both Mot & tax exempt and I will happily drive around belching out emissions through un catalysed exhaust system. This is okay btw. because the government are really clever and they say its okay so it must be, so just in case anyone was thinking thats a bit silly its not alrighty!
Oh and I bought a van size trailer rather than a small van because they cant figure out how to MOT or tax trailers (yet) and I load all manner of craap in there and drive around with a big grin on my face! Also this is fine because I use more fuel towing the trailer than a van alone does, and I take up more space on the road, and I am more of a danger to other road users because I cant stop as quick. This is what they want you to do because its better, okay?!
Also I bought an electric bike using the government scheme which paid for half of it (£500) and have currently done 3000 miles commuting on it saving 6000 miles in fuel duty (its twice as far to drive as I can blast along the cyclepaths legally and without a helmet on an e-bike). I think overall that puts the government coffers down significantly. Glad to hear my contribution to a cleaner Britain comes with such a great personal financial reward.
Honestly, find other ways to beat the system and you will feel a lot better about paying out from one hand if you can take back using the other.
Basically begin to rage a personal war against the powers that control you lol! Learn to use the system to your advantage my friend, its liberating!
I suggest you find a way to get your own back as clearly they enjoy mugging you off.
Personally I have bought a 1959 pickup with a separate chassis and am doing a complete body swap to bring it up to modern standards. Then it will be both Mot & tax exempt and I will happily drive around belching out emissions through un catalysed exhaust system. This is okay btw. because the government are really clever and they say its okay so it must be, so just in case anyone was thinking thats a bit silly its not alrighty!
Oh and I bought a van size trailer rather than a small van because they cant figure out how to MOT or tax trailers (yet) and I load all manner of craap in there and drive around with a big grin on my face! Also this is fine because I use more fuel towing the trailer than a van alone does, and I take up more space on the road, and I am more of a danger to other road users because I cant stop as quick. This is what they want you to do because its better, okay?!
Also I bought an electric bike using the government scheme which paid for half of it (£500) and have currently done 3000 miles commuting on it saving 6000 miles in fuel duty (its twice as far to drive as I can blast along the cyclepaths legally and without a helmet on an e-bike). I think overall that puts the government coffers down significantly. Glad to hear my contribution to a cleaner Britain comes with such a great personal financial reward.
Honestly, find other ways to beat the system and you will feel a lot better about paying out from one hand if you can take back using the other.
Basically begin to rage a personal war against the powers that control you lol! Learn to use the system to your advantage my friend, its liberating!
Personally, I don't know why Subaru, and other similar makes, don't do a totally detuned engine which runs not a lot CO2 which is easily mapped to provide proper power. Tax is based on the original car not the tuned car as L3YMS has alluded to.
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26 February 2013, 04:13 PM
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I wouldn't pay £460 a year for tax even if the roads were the dogzwotsits. Our lovely government are there to rip you off in any way possible it seems and this is just another one on their long list.
I only buy older cars (depending on tax bracket) which is why I have another classic. I also have a 4.6 Ford Lincoln which still costs me the same to tax as my 2.0 scoob
*uckoffyoutheivingscumbags.co.uk
I only buy older cars (depending on tax bracket) which is why I have another classic. I also have a 4.6 Ford Lincoln which still costs me the same to tax as my 2.0 scoob
*uckoffyoutheivingscumbags.co.uk
26 February 2013, 04:16 PM
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2006 Spec D 2000 miles per year £475
2007 Golf GT Sport TDI 15,000 miles per year £135
Which car is polluting the air more with co2, based on the mileage's I do?
2007 Golf GT Sport TDI 15,000 miles per year £135
Which car is polluting the air more with co2, based on the mileage's I do?
27 February 2013, 07:43 AM
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27 February 2013, 07:27 PM
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This is part a part of a report by the United Nations
"Cattle are most to blame - livestock are responsible for 18 per cent of the greenhouse gases that cause global warming, more than cars, planes and all other forms of transport put together."
"Cattle are most to blame - livestock are responsible for 18 per cent of the greenhouse gases that cause global warming, more than cars, planes and all other forms of transport put together."
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