350bhp... Will it handle it? Or achieve it.
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350bhp... Will it handle it? Or achieve it.
Event gents. My cars goin in for a bit of a tune up soon.
Ported TD05 16g FE Turbo
Ported an wrapped decatted up pipe
Ported an wrapped headers
Walbro fuel pump
ITG induction kit (bloody big cone)
Front mounted intercooler
3" stainless steel turbo back system (with wrapped down pipe)
3 port boost solenoid
76mm samco inlet to turbo pipe
Pink injectors
TGV deletes
Maffless super rom map, with duel map (WRC mode or economy). And anti lag.
It's a 2002 WRX with 49k miles full service history lovingly looked after.
My question. Will the engine be up for it? Any guesses on the bhp figure, possiblitys.
Reason I'm asking is. I'd fancy a do at oulton park was just hoping it'd be ok? I don't drive like an idiot everywhere, but I do like the occasional spirited drive?
Any newage WRX owners out there care to share there views.
All of the above ie mods an map will be fitted with the next for weeks. My mate has a version 7 STI has similar mods but has a APS SR40 turbo, and mine will have the ported up pipe, headers, an intake pipe. his goes like a stabbed rat. Expected really, being it the STI lol
Really looking forward to getting it done.
Cheers guys
Ported TD05 16g FE Turbo
Ported an wrapped decatted up pipe
Ported an wrapped headers
Walbro fuel pump
ITG induction kit (bloody big cone)
Front mounted intercooler
3" stainless steel turbo back system (with wrapped down pipe)
3 port boost solenoid
76mm samco inlet to turbo pipe
Pink injectors
TGV deletes
Maffless super rom map, with duel map (WRC mode or economy). And anti lag.
It's a 2002 WRX with 49k miles full service history lovingly looked after.
My question. Will the engine be up for it? Any guesses on the bhp figure, possiblitys.
Reason I'm asking is. I'd fancy a do at oulton park was just hoping it'd be ok? I don't drive like an idiot everywhere, but I do like the occasional spirited drive?
Any newage WRX owners out there care to share there views.
All of the above ie mods an map will be fitted with the next for weeks. My mate has a version 7 STI has similar mods but has a APS SR40 turbo, and mine will have the ported up pipe, headers, an intake pipe. his goes like a stabbed rat. Expected really, being it the STI lol
Really looking forward to getting it done.
Cheers guys
Last edited by scoobaru mad; 10 February 2013 at 08:39 PM.
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depends, i would have said 350 on a 16g is in the upper level of results. expect below 330-350 and you wont be disapointed, to go in and expect 350 is asking to be unhappy.
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It should be fine, As long as the AFR are not too lean on our tune. There is many 350hp cars with no probs. If you have the 5spd box it maybe on limited life. 6spd will be fine!
Few guys running over 400hp on a stock bottom end. I think you should be ok! But i'm no expert.
Few guys running over 400hp on a stock bottom end. I think you should be ok! But i'm no expert.
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It should be fine, As long as the AFR are not too lean on our tune. There is many 350hp cars with no probs. If you have the 5spd box it maybe on limited life. 6spd will be fine!
Few guys running over 400hp on a stock bottom end. I think you should be ok! But i'm no expert.
Few guys running over 400hp on a stock bottom end. I think you should be ok! But i'm no expert.
how long did it run for though, a few minutes??
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350 was just a ball point figure (guestimate)
The turbo is like new. I'm not after mega power. Basically a super rom map, at a respectable boost level to complement the mods applied.
I'm fully aware of the limits to the box. I'm not a side step launcher. The neutral position switch off the twist of the box I have in mind too.
The oil religiously gets changed every 3-4k. Net one is due now. Millers nano 10w50
I'm just abit fazed on how the engine will cope with every driving (which is NA really) to the occasional spirited drive at those power levels?
The turbo is like new. I'm not after mega power. Basically a super rom map, at a respectable boost level to complement the mods applied.
I'm fully aware of the limits to the box. I'm not a side step launcher. The neutral position switch off the twist of the box I have in mind too.
The oil religiously gets changed every 3-4k. Net one is due now. Millers nano 10w50
I'm just abit fazed on how the engine will cope with every driving (which is NA really) to the occasional spirited drive at those power levels?
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350 is pushing it on a 16g but with a good mapper you wont be a million miles away. If you're looking at tracking it though, you ought to upgrade your brakes as they will be a very weak point at that sort of power IMO.
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prob be fine its down to bar and torque id say, torque breaks gearboxes, mines at 350 -320 and is fine and thats with als and lc but i will not be pushing for more, as im at my limits for ej205 lump and standard 5 speed box. when we floor it , i guess we do it knowing something could go bang.... so how longs a piece of string. v power/ reg oil changes/ and timming belts. the car can be mapped safe. bob rawle did mine and hes good knows quite alot. or mr simon jolly green monster.
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some get lucky some dont , i know of a 03 wrx hitting 130k miles now , from about 10k to 38k was running 270 on td04 then 38k to 60k vf35 325bhp rest of miles been done on andy f 20g front mount etc standard box/engine and had pretty hard life at times .
how i look at it from having both wrx and a sti when they break
face of a wrx owner when box/engine breaks
well i guess it done well and was to be expected really
onwards and upwards lol
sti owner
what the f..k just happened gutted never expected that :-(
how i look at it from having both wrx and a sti when they break
face of a wrx owner when box/engine breaks
well i guess it done well and was to be expected really
onwards and upwards lol
sti owner
what the f..k just happened gutted never expected that :-(
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It's possible but as above the norm is 330 ish, as for the gear box, newage is stronger than classic, my old 04 WRX is running an SC36 on a 2.5 bottom end at 360bhp 370 torque and still going after a year, if you apply the power gently you can get away with it, if you stamp your foot to the floor, it's just a matter of time.
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I appreciate most of the comments above.
The dude just wanted to people's thoughts, and experience with newage wrx units. Ie tolerances and recommendations. Which are duely noted. Im fully aware its not an sti, an no were near as strong.
I think it be best for when it gets mapped (by Andy Carr) to keep boost levels to that, that the motor can handle an be comfortable with.
Thanks for the help chaps
The dude just wanted to people's thoughts, and experience with newage wrx units. Ie tolerances and recommendations. Which are duely noted. Im fully aware its not an sti, an no were near as strong.
I think it be best for when it gets mapped (by Andy Carr) to keep boost levels to that, that the motor can handle an be comfortable with.
Thanks for the help chaps
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I appreciate the above comment but find it hard to beleive that after amassing the parts and the project plan to get the items on the car..... the last question asked is " will it handle it "
That should be the first question asked end of story.
That should be the first question asked end of story.
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Tdo5 turbo
Exhaust,
Fmic
Fuel pump
pinkys
Etc etc is the norm for tuning most wrx's on here, or so ive read?
My differences is the TGV's and ported headers are abit xtra. Plus they were going cheap at the time.
Is there any harm in 'asking' if its ok? If you dont ask. You get a blown engine!
The list of mods ive posted above, is the list ive been 'reccomended' for productive power for my WRX.
I dont see the harm in getting second opinion and other peoples views on it??
Exhaust,
Fmic
Fuel pump
pinkys
Etc etc is the norm for tuning most wrx's on here, or so ive read?
My differences is the TGV's and ported headers are abit xtra. Plus they were going cheap at the time.
Is there any harm in 'asking' if its ok? If you dont ask. You get a blown engine!
The list of mods ive posted above, is the list ive been 'reccomended' for productive power for my WRX.
I dont see the harm in getting second opinion and other peoples views on it??
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The engine will be fine and the box will be fine.
Until they blow up ofcourse...........
Generally cars with your mods are perfectly fine for many many years but that doesnt mean all cars are. Your asking how long a bit of string is, nobody knows unfortunately.
With regard to power,,, no 16G will make a genuine 350. Maybe SC rollers or SRR will indicate it but thats here nor there. Forget power, how the car performs is whats important and with the mods list you've got it will be plenty sharp enough chap.
Until they blow up ofcourse...........
Generally cars with your mods are perfectly fine for many many years but that doesnt mean all cars are. Your asking how long a bit of string is, nobody knows unfortunately.
With regard to power,,, no 16G will make a genuine 350. Maybe SC rollers or SRR will indicate it but thats here nor there. Forget power, how the car performs is whats important and with the mods list you've got it will be plenty sharp enough chap.
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I ran a Vf28 on my old Uk classic which upped the power to 320BHP and the gearbox lasted 3 weeks!!!
replaced with a newage WRX box and all was fine for the next 40,000 miles which was when I sold the car on and was still going strong.
Gearbox's are cheaper to replace than engines.
the thing is, unless you have a forged engine there is always going to be that bit of doubt in the back of your mind of it's going to blow.
I would rather have a safe 320BHp with better brakes and suspension than 350BHP
replaced with a newage WRX box and all was fine for the next 40,000 miles which was when I sold the car on and was still going strong.
Gearbox's are cheaper to replace than engines.
the thing is, unless you have a forged engine there is always going to be that bit of doubt in the back of your mind of it's going to blow.
I would rather have a safe 320BHp with better brakes and suspension than 350BHP
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If your still using the standard WRX calipers, I wouldn't call what you've done much of an upgrade.
Good for a standard'ish car but no chance on track or for a car your hoping to be around 350
Good for a standard'ish car but no chance on track or for a car your hoping to be around 350
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Vf34
ported headers
3port solonoid
panel filter
Fuel pump
pink injectors
tgv delete but not a must
sti top mount intercooler
22mm Rear anti roll bar
front brembos
car will be a fantastic road car
ported headers
3port solonoid
panel filter
Fuel pump
pink injectors
tgv delete but not a must
sti top mount intercooler
22mm Rear anti roll bar
front brembos
car will be a fantastic road car
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