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Old 06 January 2013, 04:49 PM
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Smile Newbi looking for an STi

Hi,

just joined the site as I thought it would be a good place to start looking and investigating the best STi to buy (thats the Scoob Version not the sexual one, lol!)

I have around 9k to play with give or take a few hundred quid and want one with at leas 320BHP

After owning a few performance cars in my time (106 GTi, Celica VVTLi 190, Mk2 GSI Turbo running 250BHP) I have decided now the insurance is down to a reasonable price to buy my first Scoob.

I was looking at the early Hawkeye ones but after reading round on here the 2.5 engine is not good????? so what would you recommend Version 9 STi???

HELP, lol!!!!!
Old 06 January 2013, 04:53 PM
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Welcome to the site mate id go for a Wide track blob sti

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Old 06 January 2013, 04:55 PM
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Buy mine and spend the remaining cash on a nice engine build
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avoid the 2.5 if you dont want expensive issues and high road tax, as said above widetrack blob is proably the best uk car
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https://www.scoobynet.com/subaru-444...-for-sale.html
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Hi mate if I had your budget I would go blobeye sti wide track gets my vote easily the best out of the Newage sti's and it a 2.0 not 2.5!! Then get it mapped and and would be 320+

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Originally Posted by ScoobySteve69
Its a nice looking car mate a bit too many miles on it for me though, the few I've looked at have around 40-55k on them.

Is the wide track only on the V9 as there the only ones that mention this?
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2.5 is so much nicer to drive though. Sure some have issues but not all. A nice build would give you years of awesome motoring anyway if you don't trust a standard car.
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widetrack will be noticable as it has arch extensions over the rear arches the narrow track ones dont
Old 06 January 2013, 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by W1 8EAN
Is the wide track only on the V9 as there the only ones that mention this?
V8 blob.
Old 06 January 2013, 05:25 PM
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Could always buy my 22b rep with a couple of extra pounds http://mobile.pistonheads.com/classi...22b-rep/934705
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I'm also a newbie on here,(first post) currently not in the position to buy one yet but after much reading i think i would go for a wide track blob. I found this on a site and thought it look pretty good but correct me if i'm wrong. http://www.hurstcars.co.uk/used-cars...01239486093526
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Originally Posted by Rawly86
I'm also a newbie on here,(first post) currently not in the position to buy one yet but after much reading i think i would go for a wide track blob. I found this on a site and thought it look pretty good but correct me if i'm wrong. http://www.hurstcars.co.uk/used-cars...01239486093526
hurst cars is a reputable garage too
Old 06 January 2013, 06:41 PM
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For £9000 you might be able to find a JDM (Japanese Domestic Market) 2005 model year Blob (54, 05 or 55 reg). You'll need to be patient, but they do come up for sale occasionally.

I'm biased, but it's the one I'd go for. The spec is better than the UK market cars (including, wait for it, a rear wiper!)

Stand by for blasting!
Old 07 January 2013, 12:41 AM
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Originally Posted by adam knight
Could always buy my 22b rep with a couple of extra pounds http://mobile.pistonheads.com/classi...22b-rep/934705
That is a beauty pal just a shame its well past my budget


What year on the Blob did they change to the new style dash 2005?
Old 07 January 2013, 07:27 AM
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This is a U.S. spec car but gives you a general idea of how much the blob
changed on the widetrack.

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Engine/Suspension/Drivetrain

larger wheel hubs and bearings
larger wheel bolt circle diameter (from 5x100 in 2004 to 5x114.3 in 2005)
17x8 wheels (17x7.5 in 2004)
1 inch wider rear track
revised power steering rack
power steering fluid cooler
stiffer steering rack mounts
3-point rear suspension crossmember
aluminum rear suspension lateral links
helical limited-slip front differential (Suretrac LSD in 2004)
revised DCCD system
new Yaw sensor for DCCD (part of the lateral G sensor)
revised ABS controller
optional short shift kit

Exterior

aerodynamic underbody panels
rear wheel arch flares
redesigned rear bumper
revised exterior badging (black instead of chrome STi badges)
smoked headlight lenses
new paint color - Crystal Grey Metallic

Interior

smaller diameter steering wheel with black center area
redesigned center console
2 cupholder indentations in center console (no more dashboard pop-out)
redesigned center stack with aluminum-look trim
automatic climate control with automatic vent selection feature
80-watt, 6-speaker AM/FM stereo with integral 6-CD changer standard
revised seat cushions with new side bolster material
revised interior door trim
side mirror controls moved to driver's door (from center console)
DCCD controls relocated on center console
upgraded sunvisor material
redesigned anti-glare finish on windshield behind mirror (no more center visor)
Immobilizer key
redesigned keyless remote keyfob
cruise control standard
air filtration system standard
rear passenger cupholders standard
optional auto-dimming mirror with Homelink
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I would go for a cheap 2.5 hawkeye and get the lump strengthened if you want a newer car with all the creature comforts or as already suggested a Jdm version.

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Old 07 January 2013, 07:58 AM
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I bought my 2003 sti new and it's been a great car, great prices now as well. 2003-2004 cars (blob eye) do not have the DCCD, but don't be put off they are great cars.

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Originally Posted by davedipster
I bought my 2003 sti new and it's been a great car, great prices now as well. 2003-2004 cars (blob eye) do not have the DCCD, but don't be put off they are great cars.

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Old 07 January 2013, 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Trippie
This is a U.S. spec car but gives you a general idea of how much the blob
changed on the widetrack.

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Engine/Suspension/Drivetrain

larger wheel hubs and bearings
larger wheel bolt circle diameter (from 5x100 in 2004 to 5x114.3 in 2005)
17x8 wheels (17x7.5 in 2004)
1 inch wider rear track
revised power steering rack
power steering fluid cooler
stiffer steering rack mounts
3-point rear suspension crossmember
aluminum rear suspension lateral links
helical limited-slip front differential (Suretrac LSD in 2004)
revised DCCD system
new Yaw sensor for DCCD (part of the lateral G sensor)
revised ABS controller
optional short shift kit

Exterior

aerodynamic underbody panels
rear wheel arch flares
redesigned rear bumper
revised exterior badging (black instead of chrome STi badges)
smoked headlight lenses
new paint color - Crystal Grey Metallic

Interior

smaller diameter steering wheel with black center area
redesigned center console
2 cupholder indentations in center console (no more dashboard pop-out)
redesigned center stack with aluminum-look trim
automatic climate control with automatic vent selection feature
80-watt, 6-speaker AM/FM stereo with integral 6-CD changer standard
revised seat cushions with new side bolster material
revised interior door trim
side mirror controls moved to driver's door (from center console)
DCCD controls relocated on center console
upgraded sunvisor material
redesigned anti-glare finish on windshield behind mirror (no more center visor)
Immobilizer key
redesigned keyless remote keyfob
cruise control standard
air filtration system standard
rear passenger cupholders standard
optional auto-dimming mirror with Homelink
Fantastic information there and just goes to show if you ask the right questions/ people you get the answers your looking for

Not to discount the earlier models as some of these look fantastic and if the right one came along wouldn't say no but I think I've made my mind up, now to find one, lol!

Thanks for the info people
Old 07 January 2013, 11:22 PM
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I went for a jdm widetrack blob and find it superb, exhaust and uk fuel remap puts it right in the 320-340bhp range and a very good basis for further mods. If you can live without the scoobs burble then well worth considering. I went from uk to jdm and love it, but not everyone agrees. But my advice is widetrack blob, uk or jdm whichever you prefer
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Originally Posted by Trippie
V8 blob.
So silly question... ( i am a newbie too..)

Is the WR1 widetrack ? Was looking at one earlier and doesnt seem to have that line over the rear arch ?

Only reason I ask is that like a couple of people here I am looking at Subaru ownership again (12 years after the last one !) and thought that the WR1 might hold its value ? Certainly when i was looking back in 2009 (ended up buying an Evo VIII ) WR1 were arounf the 10-11k mark and still seem to be around there (if you can find one!)
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No the WR1 is based on a 2004 car and isnt wide track, those were the 2005 STI's, they changed the PCD of the wheels from 100 to 114.

Your best bet (and honestly im not bias ) is a JDM new age wide track, better power delivery, more torque, more goodies but more expensive, insurance is similar/same to that of a UK car (which has less power )

Tony
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Tony

Thanks for the advice ! I did see a lovely white JDM on the Hurst Cars website but thats 2003 so not wide track and already its top end of my original budget! The widre track JDM they have (also white) is another £1k...

But then, as always , cheaper does not always mean value !

As a freelancer though i alwayss have to consider whether I can convert my 'toy' (or second necessary winter car as the wife knows it as) into cash without doing my bollocks on the deal.... hence consideration of the WR1
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Forget the WR1, they are hard to sell as the colour is gash, if you want something that you will be able to shift at a moments notice then it's either a wide trac uk spec sti or the same but jdm.
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Originally Posted by ditchmyster
Forget the WR1, they are hard to sell as the colour is gash, if you want something that you will be able to shift at a moments notice then it's either a wide trac uk spec sti or the same but jdm.
Couldn't agree more about the colour ! Its very.... feminine

Thanks for the advice guys ... its much appreciated.

I think the [committee agreed] budget needs some slight upward revision !
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Originally Posted by colinc2
Tony

Thanks for the advice ! I did see a lovely white JDM on the Hurst Cars website but thats 2003 so not wide track and already its top end of my original budget! The wide track JDM they have (also white) is another £1k...

But then, as always , cheaper does not always mean value !

As a freelancer though i alwayss have to consider whether I can convert my 'toy' (or second necessary winter car as the wife knows it as) into cash without doing my bollocks on the deal.... hence consideration of the WR1
Yup but the ad for this wide track is full of mistakes
http://www.hurstcars.co.uk/used-cars...01245491767103

It doesnt have a short shift gearbox, nor does it have a vf36 turbo (both are only on the Spec C), it has a dodgy k&n type mushroom filter which just sucks hot air in, no mention of a remap but has a full decat so that would put me off, the alloys are not BBS wheels, they are standard STI alloys with BBS centre caps fitted and its had the fog light put under the bumper, all the good places fit them into the rear light cluster so.... (you need to find who imported it).

The 03 will not be a wide track but still keep looking as these are the best Subaru's you can get
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