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Old Oct 14, 2012 | 01:40 PM
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Right I am doing a n/a to turbo conversion. Yes I'm aware it's probably cheaper to just buy a turbo but there are reasons I'm not. So would some kind individual please tell me exactly wat I will
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Old Oct 14, 2012 | 02:30 PM
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Engine with all Ancillaries, intercooler Maff, Exhaust system, Complete Wiring Loom, ECU.
You will need the boost solenoid from drivers wing etc.

Gearbox.

then you will need to change the Brakes and suspension to Match.. the NA brakes are NOT great, had to put 4 pots on my old sport even keeping it NA, and the rears are usually Drum brakes and not worth having imo.
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Old Oct 14, 2012 | 02:34 PM
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its a lot of hassle and best to just get a doner car for the parts alot cheaper can i ask why you are converting?
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probably for insurance reasons which if that is the case would still be easier to find an import wrx/sti that just says subaru on the logbook and insure it as a gl. not that im condoning such actions

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Old Oct 14, 2012 | 02:49 PM
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Yes insurance for one and being yellow I don't want to lose that. Plus there are a lot of little mods etc I have done I'm not losing my car
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But if you don't derclare ALL mods, in the event of a claim, the insurance is null and void: in effect you are paying for nothing

And I suggest you get a few quotes for a n/a to turbo conversion before embarking on this, it's likely to be FAR dearer than insuring a turbo.
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Old Oct 14, 2012 | 03:35 PM
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Have an insurance company already willing to take it on and isn't know how but only £168 more than what I'm paying now
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Something sounds wrong there as it should cost more than a standard turbo.
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Old Oct 14, 2012 | 06:10 PM
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Just buy a turbo car and swap all the parts over? but I would bite the bullet and run the turbo, keep the sport as a project maybe?
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This is madness..... No way would a modified sport with complete turbo conversion be cheaper to insure than a standard UK turbo
Either your not telling us the whole story or you need to get a few more quotes from reputable companies.
I only hope your not intending to do all this work and not declare it.
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Originally Posted by MattyB1983
This is madness..... No way would a modified sport with complete turbo conversion be cheaper to insure than a standard UK turbo
Either your not telling us the whole story or you need to get a few more quotes from reputable companies.
I only hope your not intending to do all this work and not declare it.
Seems like Scoobynet is full of people aiming to do this now. No wonder it's so expensive to insure a scooby.
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Old Oct 14, 2012 | 10:14 PM
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First off you have to buy the donor which will cost enough then you have to strip all the parts off yours and off the donor car then fit it all to your yellow n/a pointless might as well buy a turbo scooby and spray it yellow
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Not the point though! It's my current insurer who has offered the insurance deal and I have checked, 4 times!!! I'm doing it cause I want to to be fair I don't really care of people
Think it's a good idea or not there is always going to be someone to criticise what you do. The tuning world
Wouldn't be what it is of everyone listened to each other. At the end of the day it's my car and my money of you don't like it then fine! All
I asked for was a little help on what I needed so I got
My list right and didn't mess up, not a bombardment of 'you shouldn't be doing this for this reason'

Sorry to rant on it just annoys me its the same
On every forum. If I was wasting your
Money I would understand
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Old Oct 14, 2012 | 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by CREWJ
Seems like Scoobynet is full of people aiming to do this now. No wonder it's so expensive to insure a scooby.
It's only expensive if you don't shop around! I'm 25, no no claims and I pay 968 fully comp. I have a council house on a council estate with a rocky history and moderate level of car crime. I spent 2 data shopping around for my deal.
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Easiest option,

Buy a uk turbo with good engine but crap body, with some hunting you should find one for under a grand. Then use that as a donor car.

Good luck.
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Thank you mate I appreciate that.

Im sorry to rant but it's the same
On every forum. People do things for a reason, the modifying world would be rubbish if we all
Criticised but it's the criticism that pushes people further. I know what I'm looking to achieve and I will be proud to show you all when it's done
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Originally Posted by CREWJ
Seems like Scoobynet is full of people aiming to do this now. No wonder it's so expensive to insure a scooby.
This.

Look at how the insurance section has changed over the last few years. More and more frequently people are dropping themselves in it and even suggesting insurance fraud. I've discussed it on PM with Moley actually and you'd be surprised how much info is stored off here for when it comes to quote time

OP, trust me, it's cheaper to buy a turbo and spray it bloody yellow than do your conversion

a) properly with engine, ancillaries, electrics, gearbox, drivetrain, brakes
b) insure it legitimately

Best of luck anyway.


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Old Oct 14, 2012 | 10:56 PM
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All mods declared right down to the alloys and money is not an option. Plus having the block out means I can do what I want to add my magic touch.
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I'd get a project thread going then fella. Be of interest to many I think!
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Old Oct 15, 2012 | 12:05 AM
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Yeah man just got to pay for my
Membership. Running a thread on another forum so will just transfer it all
Over when I have paid up
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Old Oct 15, 2012 | 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Karl Barrow
Thank you mate I appreciate that.

Im sorry to rant but it's the same
On every forum. People do things for a reason, the modifying world would be rubbish if we all
Criticised but it's the criticism that pushes people further. I know what I'm looking to achieve and I will be proud to show you all when it's done
With all due respect, for every person that comes on here and HAS done the research about insurance, and might actually DO the conversion, we get a hundred who haven't given it the slightest thought, just, "Hey, that'd be good, and cheap insurance......."

So.....what do we do? Just say, "Best of luck mate, here's what you need", or point out the pitfalls and maybe stop some idiot starting a conversion he has no chance of completing and sinking a whole load of dosh in it?

Me? I ALWAYS tell it like it is, then the recipient of my advice can do two things with it........

I will be interested to see if you do do it.
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In the past I have done the same
To an mr2 and a ford capri. I owned the only
Mr2 in the world with a mkiv supra dash (not an easy Jon in the slightest!!!) and I have sprayed my
Own cars in my
Own garage. I'm more than happy to do it. Only problem is I know little of the boxer block and just wanted to ensure I had the right list



Someone off here mentioned the subframe too?
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Old Oct 15, 2012 | 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by MattyB1983
Easiest option,

Buy a uk turbo with good engine but crap body, with some hunting you should find one for under a grand. Then use that as a donor car.

Good luck.
This^^

Should take about 7/10 days if they are sat next to each other and you take your time and get it right first go.

Use plenty of WD40 a few days before.

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Intending on cutting that time doing it over a weekend between 5 of us si should. E good.
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Engine conversion insurance really isn't the issue it used to be, we insure these in high volumes, my own car included.

http://www.skyinsurance.co.uk/engine...insurance.html
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But is it not a problem that the standard n/a car with the turbo lump in it isn't up to it as regards brakes, supension etc?
Do you spec that he has to do those? Or do you just insure it without bothering? Surely any such car isn't safe, or Subaru would have specced those brakes, suspension etc for the UK turbo....?
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Originally Posted by alcazar
But is it not a problem that the standard n/a car with the turbo lump in it isn't up to it as regards brakes, supension etc?
Do you spec that he has to do those? Or do you just insure it without bothering? Surely any such car isn't safe, or Subaru would have specced those brakes, suspension etc for the UK turbo....?
Read the link but in answer to your question, no we wouldn't insure an engine swapped car with looking at the driver's risk carefully and looking for the important supporting upgrades.

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I wouldn’t buy a sport that had been converted to a WRX spec turbo car so you should think about long term. You’ll never be able to get rid of it and it WILL cost you more to convert a sport into a WRX rather than just selling up and buying a WRX. Also, as someone on here has started to do this same thing in recent months its worth you reading up on where he got to before he completely gave up!

You’ll also need an engineers report to insure it after its done I would suspect.

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Your choice! But who says I'm selling it???

There are plenty of people out there that would even of you wouldn't. All the tuning gear gets changed along with Uprated suspension.
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Go for it then! Get up a project thread and I’ll be watching with interest! Good luck
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