STI Hatchback advice
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STI Hatchback advice
First post and first thread, howdy all!!
I joined Scoobynet as I was looking for a UK owners forum with plenty of activity and would hopefully offer up the information I am chasing.
I have been in the market for a newish car for a little while now after hitting 21 and getting more than a little bored of driving a Corsa for 4 years I have had more than a little drama finding a replacement (because my derv Corsa is just so orgasmic to drive ) including looking through EP3 Type R's, Astra VXR's, Mini JCW's, Focus ST's etc etc.
Anyway, after a chat on the phone with the saucy sounding but possibly pirahna faced lady from my Insurance regarding quotes I asked for a figure on what it would take to insure an 07 Hawkeye STI and an 08 Hatch STI to which point she soon replied "It would cost £4k to insure you on the 2007 model, however the 2008 Hatchback would cost less than £2k.........."
So here I am chasing up buying advice on an 08 Scooby STI
I am aware that they seem to commonly suffer some kind of detonation issue due to the mapping?
Also does anyone have any other known common faults found in models of this year? Things to watch out for when viewing/test driving?
Any info is much appreciated
I joined Scoobynet as I was looking for a UK owners forum with plenty of activity and would hopefully offer up the information I am chasing.
I have been in the market for a newish car for a little while now after hitting 21 and getting more than a little bored of driving a Corsa for 4 years I have had more than a little drama finding a replacement (because my derv Corsa is just so orgasmic to drive ) including looking through EP3 Type R's, Astra VXR's, Mini JCW's, Focus ST's etc etc.
Anyway, after a chat on the phone with the saucy sounding but possibly pirahna faced lady from my Insurance regarding quotes I asked for a figure on what it would take to insure an 07 Hawkeye STI and an 08 Hatch STI to which point she soon replied "It would cost £4k to insure you on the 2007 model, however the 2008 Hatchback would cost less than £2k.........."
So here I am chasing up buying advice on an 08 Scooby STI
I am aware that they seem to commonly suffer some kind of detonation issue due to the mapping?
Also does anyone have any other known common faults found in models of this year? Things to watch out for when viewing/test driving?
Any info is much appreciated
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the reason the hatch is cheaper to insure is because there arnt as many around as the 07 sti's so arnt that well known for being stolen or smashed up from what I'm aware.
Make sure the car has had the ringland fracture download completed if you are keeping the car std, if not then get it remapped asap. Plus also set aside a good few £K's incase its been ragged to death by the previous owner and needs a new engine in the near future.
Other than the above they are relatively trouble free
the reason the hatch is cheaper to insure is because there arnt as many around as the 07 sti's so arnt that well known for being stolen or smashed up from what I'm aware.
Make sure the car has had the ringland fracture download completed if you are keeping the car std, if not then get it remapped asap. Plus also set aside a good few £K's incase its been ragged to death by the previous owner and needs a new engine in the near future.
Other than the above they are relatively trouble free
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i,ll second what rob says !!
mines got 55k on clock had engine rebuilt by rob after ringlet failure under warrantry
& spot on now , dosent seen to b alot around & done stand out like 07 etc so u dont get hassle , they r totaly differnet cars to older models really nice car to drive
mines got 55k on clock had engine rebuilt by rob after ringlet failure under warrantry
& spot on now , dosent seen to b alot around & done stand out like 07 etc so u dont get hassle , they r totaly differnet cars to older models really nice car to drive
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Welcome to SNet,
the reason the hatch is cheaper to insure is because there arnt as many around as the 07 sti's so arnt that well known for being stolen or smashed up from what I'm aware.
Make sure the car has had the ringland fracture download completed if you are keeping the car std, if not then get it remapped asap. Plus also set aside a good few £K's incase its been ragged to death by the previous owner and needs a new engine in the near future.
Other than the above they are relatively trouble free
the reason the hatch is cheaper to insure is because there arnt as many around as the 07 sti's so arnt that well known for being stolen or smashed up from what I'm aware.
Make sure the car has had the ringland fracture download completed if you are keeping the car std, if not then get it remapped asap. Plus also set aside a good few £K's incase its been ragged to death by the previous owner and needs a new engine in the near future.
Other than the above they are relatively trouble free
I know the Hatch is not too old so obviously some possible issues won't show yet but are there any little issues that have shown yet?
Thanks for the reply.
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Agree with your analogy in as much as nobody would want to steal the very ugly sti hatch.
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Good to see the antiques roadshow attending again!
08 Hatches are fantastic cars, practicality with decent power & up to date interior.
Some people don't like them in the same way people thought the world was flat...... same mentality!
08 Hatches are fantastic cars, practicality with decent power & up to date interior.
Some people don't like them in the same way people thought the world was flat...... same mentality!
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I think your insurance quote will be incorrect, it will probably cost the same for both, as both are in the 40+ insurance category and you are 21 (if they insure you at all that is as most companies wont touch anyone under 25 on one of these cars).
Going from a corsa to a subaru is a bit of a jump, parts, insurance, fuel etc, for example I was chatting to my local dealer yesterday when mine was in for a service, a pollen filter is now £25 quid an oil filter is now £12+ and IM really are not helping the matter by increasing the price parts every other week.
I can give you a good comparison on costs as I run an Astra H CDTI 1.9, compared to the scoob, I use a full tank of fuel (similar size to the scoobs) well id have a bit left tbh, so a full week of there and back, is 40 ish litres of diesel, same journey is 90ish litres of super unleaded.
Your in town MPG will be around 16-18mpg in a scoob, on a run your looking at mid to high 20's, you may hit 30mpg or if you go really slow, low to mid 30's.
Delve into it a little deeper, you may be shocked by the running costs, hence why most people run 2 cars when they have a scoob, normally a cheap diesel or small engined petrol for work, and the scoob for weekends.
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Going from a corsa to a subaru is a bit of a jump, parts, insurance, fuel etc, for example I was chatting to my local dealer yesterday when mine was in for a service, a pollen filter is now £25 quid an oil filter is now £12+ and IM really are not helping the matter by increasing the price parts every other week.
I can give you a good comparison on costs as I run an Astra H CDTI 1.9, compared to the scoob, I use a full tank of fuel (similar size to the scoobs) well id have a bit left tbh, so a full week of there and back, is 40 ish litres of diesel, same journey is 90ish litres of super unleaded.
Your in town MPG will be around 16-18mpg in a scoob, on a run your looking at mid to high 20's, you may hit 30mpg or if you go really slow, low to mid 30's.
Delve into it a little deeper, you may be shocked by the running costs, hence why most people run 2 cars when they have a scoob, normally a cheap diesel or small engined petrol for work, and the scoob for weekends.
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So..........
400bhp classic weighing 1240kg (320bhp/tonne)
or a 300bhp Fugly weighing 1510kg? (198 bhp/tonne)
That extra quarter of a tonne sure does make it a better car..........LOL
Now, remind me again, Impreza: shopping trolley or raw rally car?
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Ah yes, the old "antiques" reasoning.
So..........
400bhp classic weighing 1240kg (320bhp/tonne)
or a 300bhp Fugly weighing 1510kg? (198 bhp/tonne)
That extra quarter of a tonne sure does make it a better car..........LOL
Now, remind me again, Impreza: shopping trolley or raw rally car?
So..........
400bhp classic weighing 1240kg (320bhp/tonne)
or a 300bhp Fugly weighing 1510kg? (198 bhp/tonne)
That extra quarter of a tonne sure does make it a better car..........LOL
Now, remind me again, Impreza: shopping trolley or raw rally car?
Bigger wheels add weight, uprated clutch adds weight, bigger brakes add weight, that bigger gearbox adds weight, that front mount adds weight etc, id say you were not far off that "lardy" hatch now
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So...... ok this is 2012
Do me a favour, go into the bathroom, look in the mirror and give yourself a hard slap back into the new millennium
In the close twisties the hatch pisses all over the classics, bugs, blobs & hawks & a standard hatch with the elephant payload....... me so that would be a half ton more in weight
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Now come on, that is cheating, if you have a uk classic its 1240kg(ish), but with 400bhp I can say hand on heart, its going to be well into the 1300kg region after you have added all the extra weight of parts that are needed to stop it exploding
Bigger wheels add weight, uprated clutch adds weight, bigger brakes add weight, that bigger gearbox adds weight, that front mount adds weight etc, id say you were not far off that "lardy" hatch now
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Bigger wheels add weight, uprated clutch adds weight, bigger brakes add weight, that bigger gearbox adds weight, that front mount adds weight etc, id say you were not far off that "lardy" hatch now
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First post and first thread, howdy all!!
I joined Scoobynet as I was looking for a UK owners forum with plenty of activity and would hopefully offer up the information I am chasing.
I have been in the market for a newish car for a little while now after hitting 21 and getting more than a little bored of driving a Corsa for 4 years I have had more than a little drama finding a replacement (because my derv Corsa is just so orgasmic to drive ) including looking through EP3 Type R's, Astra VXR's, Mini JCW's, Focus ST's etc etc.
Anyway, after a chat on the phone with the saucy sounding but possibly pirahna faced lady from my Insurance regarding quotes I asked for a figure on what it would take to insure an 07 Hawkeye STI and an 08 Hatch STI to which point she soon replied "It would cost £4k to insure you on the 2007 model, however the 2008 Hatchback would cost less than £2k.........."
So here I am chasing up buying advice on an 08 Scooby STI
I am aware that they seem to commonly suffer some kind of detonation issue due to the mapping?
Also does anyone have any other known common faults found in models of this year? Things to watch out for when viewing/test driving?
Any info is much appreciated
I joined Scoobynet as I was looking for a UK owners forum with plenty of activity and would hopefully offer up the information I am chasing.
I have been in the market for a newish car for a little while now after hitting 21 and getting more than a little bored of driving a Corsa for 4 years I have had more than a little drama finding a replacement (because my derv Corsa is just so orgasmic to drive ) including looking through EP3 Type R's, Astra VXR's, Mini JCW's, Focus ST's etc etc.
Anyway, after a chat on the phone with the saucy sounding but possibly pirahna faced lady from my Insurance regarding quotes I asked for a figure on what it would take to insure an 07 Hawkeye STI and an 08 Hatch STI to which point she soon replied "It would cost £4k to insure you on the 2007 model, however the 2008 Hatchback would cost less than £2k.........."
So here I am chasing up buying advice on an 08 Scooby STI
I am aware that they seem to commonly suffer some kind of detonation issue due to the mapping?
Also does anyone have any other known common faults found in models of this year? Things to watch out for when viewing/test driving?
Any info is much appreciated
Much nicer to drive than the previous models and it also handles much better in my opinion too
If you can, look into getting the 330S model
Fantastic Recaro seats, good sat nav, and its also keyless which is great
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The hatch is a great car mate - despite all the haters on here would have you believe
Much nicer to drive than the previous models and it also handles much better in my opinion too
If you can, look into getting the 330S model
Fantastic Recaro seats, good sat nav, and its also keyless which is great
Much nicer to drive than the previous models and it also handles much better in my opinion too
If you can, look into getting the 330S model
Fantastic Recaro seats, good sat nav, and its also keyless which is great
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2007 sti 1379.94
2009 sti 1278.18
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Note the above is for a 43 year old driving for 20+ years at my sisters post code (which is pretty good), do you think a 21 year old will be anywhere near that?
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330s is a slightly better option but you will find them harder to source & they cost a few £1000 more.
Worth it for the gadgets tho.
Recarro seats
Keyless entry with push button start
The little black square on the door handle is the push button vehicle entry/exit, or use the remote buttons.
I am sure the classic had those refinements as standard!
Didn't they?
If not i am sure a bottle of this stuff will come in hand
Worth it for the gadgets tho.
Recarro seats
Keyless entry with push button start
The little black square on the door handle is the push button vehicle entry/exit, or use the remote buttons.
I am sure the classic had those refinements as standard!
Didn't they?
If not i am sure a bottle of this stuff will come in hand