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Old 10 December 2011, 10:41 PM
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Default p1 and type r whats the difference

obviously the suspension and gear ratios are different but I'm only really interested in the shell/chassis and am just wondering if there are any differences between the 2?

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Old 10 December 2011, 10:49 PM
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The shells are the same, the differences are under the skin and the front splitter and rear spoiler.
Old 10 December 2011, 10:51 PM
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so basically the only difference is cosmetic
Old 10 December 2011, 10:54 PM
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All the P1s came off the production lines as Type-R and were converted to UK by Prodrive, so the shell is the same.
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think the type R has a rear wiper as well.

P1 is basically a UK overpriced 3 door without all the Type R goodies.
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Originally Posted by Blue and Gold
so basically the only difference is cosmetic
Externally yes, the running gear is where the differences are.
Old 10 December 2011, 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Paulo P
Externally yes, the running gear is where the differences are.
hoping to buy a bare shell so running gear is irrelevant as I will be putting newage gear in I'm guessing that newage coilovers won't fit on a classic shell?
Old 10 December 2011, 11:00 PM
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ABS on the P1, don't think Type R had that.
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Originally Posted by the hamster
P1 is basically a UK overpriced 3 door without all the Type R goodies.
Yep, I'd have a Type-R over a P1 every time... P1 is a soft Type-R!





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Originally Posted by salsa-king
ABS on the P1, don't think Type R had that.
That's got nothing to do with the shell though

As for suspension it may fit but it won't work as well as stuff designed for a classic because the weight is different for one.
Old 10 December 2011, 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by salsa-king
ABS on the P1, don't think Type R had that.
Correct. The intercooler water spray was removed to make room for ABS which was required by UK law. The DCCD was then removed because they hadn't figured out how to make it work with ABS!
Old 10 December 2011, 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Blue and Gold
hoping to buy a bare shell so running gear is irrelevant as I will be putting newage gear in I'm guessing that newage coilovers won't fit on a classic shell?
You robbed my idea lol. Was planning on doing that in the future when I'm rich lmaoooo. Was gonna get all the stuff from a hawkeye.

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Originally Posted by Blue and Gold
hoping to buy a bare shell so running gear is irrelevant as I will be putting newage gear in I'm guessing that newage coilovers won't fit on a classic shell?
You will need to change the top mounts on the rear, not sure about the fronts.
Old 10 December 2011, 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by NOSSY_89
You robbed my idea lol. Was planning on doing that in the future when I'm rich lmaoooo. Was gonna get all the stuff from a hawkeye.
its not set in stone yet mate but its on the cards if I can get a few things I need.
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Originally Posted by Blue and Gold
its not set in stone yet mate but its on the cards if I can get a few things I need.
Your reshelling a newage. Let me know if you need a hand.
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If its a Type R Ltd or V-Ltd it will have the roof vent as standard, which the P1 didn't, so a very slightly different shell if you can find one
Old 11 December 2011, 07:28 AM
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Another difference but not to the shell p1 was done so it ran on UK fuel. Type r fresh imports needed to be mapped
Old 11 December 2011, 08:15 AM
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Did the P1 come with aluminium bonnet?
Old 11 December 2011, 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by LegacyAdam
Correct. The intercooler water spray was removed to make room for ABS which was required by UK law. The DCCD was then removed because they hadn't figured out how to make it work with ABS!
ABS isnt a requirement by law, the issue was that Prodrive/Subaru thought that the owners couldnt handle the dccd so went for a car that was easy to drive yet powerful, it still caught a few owners out though

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Originally Posted by BLACKSTI97
Did the P1 come with aluminium bonnet?
It was standard STI spec so yes, the car is basically an STI 5 saloon in a type R shell.

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Originally Posted by philS scooby
Another difference but not to the shell p1 was done so it ran on UK fuel. Type r fresh imports needed to be mapped
The P1 runs the same map as the version 5/6 JDM cars, yup for 100 ron fuel, it has more knock correction added and broquets to increase the ron value (they are suppose to last 200k miles), one of the reasons that they blew engines up (det ) on bad fuel.

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Originally Posted by the hamster
think the type R has a rear wiper as well.

P1 is basically a UK overpriced 3 door without all the Type R goodies.
Quite. The P1 was for middle-aged men who liked the idea of a performance car, but without the ability and power to bin it.
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I love my Type R Ltd
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The P1 also has a rear wiper for what it's worth
Old 11 December 2011, 02:20 PM
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havent reshelled mine but it is type r with six speed and twin scroll setup and have sti 8 lump in my garage as a winter project really do get the best of both classic looks newage tech
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Originally Posted by chris_wrx
havent reshelled mine but it is type r with six speed and twin scroll setup and have sti 8 lump in my garage as a winter project really do get the best of both classic looks newage tech

This was my idea, I would have the good strength in the sti8 engine and 6 speed box and the brembos to stop me all wrapped up in a nice classic shell which weighs much less than a newage car would
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Originally Posted by GAZ2293
The P1 also has a rear wiper for what it's worth
So has a Type R....
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Originally Posted by the hamster
think the type R has a rear wiper as well.

P1 is basically a UK overpriced 3 door without all the Type R goodies.
Originally Posted by Guinness
So has a Type R....
Old 11 December 2011, 07:12 PM
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so the shells are practically identical other than slight cosmetic differences and the main difference between the 2 was engine and transmission.

that's all I really need to know then as I will be using my blob sti as a donor car if I go through with it so anything other than the shell is irrelevant as it will be surplus to requirements

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Originally Posted by LegacyAdam
Yep, I'd have a Type-R over a P1 every time... P1 is a soft Type-R!





I await a flaming from all the P1 owners
LOOOOOOOOOOOOL.............no flaming here mate I agree.........back then if I knew what I know about impreza's as I know now I would have ended up getting a type-R instead but put to much cash into it in the end

one of the best bits that type R has that prodrive took off the P1 is the R180 diff and 2 pot hubs at the rear, stronger diff and the ability to fit bigger brakes much easier not having to do daft little mods etc etc


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