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Old Oct 23, 2011 | 02:00 AM
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driving home from ESC tunnel run, on way home the engine went. oil everywhere and had to tow the car home.
so now thinking, either re-building and forging it or to just drop an STi engine in it



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Old Oct 23, 2011 | 02:27 AM
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Not good news mate Another reason why I didn't do tonight because my working engine comes out next weekend and it's already sold What's the plans for yours?
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Old Oct 23, 2011 | 02:39 AM
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Might be a cheapish option if you want to go forged

https://www.scoobynet.com/subaru-par...ed-engine.html
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Old Oct 23, 2011 | 02:43 AM
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^^^
is that good value banny??
whats the engine good for in your opinion

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Old Oct 23, 2011 | 03:32 AM
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is that good value banny??
whats the engine good for in your opinion

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I would say it is especially with a closed deck block and judging by the internals I would say around 600bhp
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Old Oct 23, 2011 | 08:27 AM
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gutted for you mate look at it a chance to make it even better now

i was the prodrive bug parked next to you at Billingsgate along with my mate in the jdm hawk

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Old Oct 23, 2011 | 08:39 AM
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What a bummer mate ... Look at it this way she'll come back even better.
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Old Oct 23, 2011 | 08:43 AM
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id go stroker wiley.in your semi closed deck block will be good for 500+
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Old Oct 23, 2011 | 09:04 AM
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Every cloud and all that, get the Lateral or Engine Tuner stroker kits and go for a rebuild from someone reputable - I'm not sure Rich is up for any more builds but Neil would bit your hand off. Failing that you wouldn't go wring just leaving the car with Alan Jeffery to do it all, the only remaining dilemma would be how far do you go 400, 500 or even more
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Old Oct 23, 2011 | 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by leeroywrx
id go stroker wiley.in your semi closed deck block will be good for 500+
Will WRX heads allow 500bhp or will they need work done to them?
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Old Oct 23, 2011 | 09:26 AM
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Bugger, do you know what happened, just wondering why it spat the oil out as not heard of that before.

The engine in the link is not bad value and a quick fix, 2.1 stroker kit can be had for £1400, depends if you can do some of the work yourself or not, and enginetuner do the 2.1 bottom end from £2600 ish inc vat.

I'm sure you know just depends how far you want to go and how deep your pockets are, but good numbers can be had quite reasonably these days, chin up mate think of it as a chance for some new goodies, and the smile it will put on your face when it's all done
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Old Oct 23, 2011 | 09:36 AM
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Will your insurance not cover that kind of damage?
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Old Oct 23, 2011 | 09:51 AM
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Didn't you read about how weak Hawkeye engines are on here ?

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P.S. Gus is breaking a 700 bhp 2.1
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Originally Posted by fastboyslim
Will WRX heads allow 500bhp or will they need work done to them?
Any heads will allow 500 but you will be on the limit and most would probably not use wrx heads at that level for fear of fiz pop bang but there are those that do, depends what characteristics you are after, saying that though if your headed for 500 i would try and source some v3 sti heads as head work and parts can be relatively expensive ie as much as a bottom end, as usual depends how far you plan on going, best thing to do is speak to a tuner then work out what you want from the car and what it will be used for.
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Old Oct 23, 2011 | 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by ditchmyster
if your headed for 500 i would try and source some v3 sti heads
Pointless on his car they wont fit with his inlet manifold
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Old Oct 23, 2011 | 10:13 AM
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Inlet manifold £60, cost of head work serious $$$$$.

Don't know what car he has so just gave a possible cheap solution to a general query, but like i said best to speak to a tuner and discuss options.
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Old Oct 23, 2011 | 10:19 AM
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Blimey Wiley......

My bug WRX is running 400 ish BHP and a couple of years ago I started to collect the bits to drop a 2.5 STi in with Mahle pistons. it's possible to stick the WRX heads back on or have them re-chambered at Enginetuner or Finch Motorsport etc. I did look around for some STi 5/6 heads but are quite rare.

Stick to reasonable and not silly power to keep a lid on the costs

Best of luck

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Old Oct 23, 2011 | 11:02 AM
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I was running my new turbo, and noticed it wasn't making much boost after a small oil leak. We found out the cause of the leak was just the oil outlet hose which was a quick fix.
We played around with the boost solenoid in the morning, and found out it was faulty. Reason why I was looking for a new boost controller.
We unplugged the solenoid, the yesterday morning and it was making too much boost (2 bar)
I told my mechanic mate, that I'll drive it safely and let off around 1.4 bar. But my right foot got a bit heavy on the way home from the tunnel run and after looking at my peak on my defi gauge, it boosted over 2 bar
I guess that's the reason why my cars fried, pretty much my own fault

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Old Oct 23, 2011 | 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by wiley
I was running my new turbo, and noticed it wasn't making much boost after a small oil leak. We found out the cause of the leak was just the oil outlet hose which was a quick fix.
We played around with the boost solenoid in the morning, and found out it was faulty. Reason why I was looking for a new boost controller.
We unplugged the solenoid, the yesterday morning and it was making too much boost (2 bar)
I told my mechanic mate, that I'll drive it safely and let off around 1.4 bar. But my right foot got a bit heavy on the way home from the tunnel run and after looking at my peak on my defi gauge, it boosted over 2 bar
I guess that's the reason why my cars fried, pretty much my own fault

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Sorry to hear the bad news mate

But as others have said, see it as an oppurtunity to up the ooomph a bit.

I'm selling my sti bottom end if you can't stretch to a stroker but if you can (if you can you should), i'm selling version 8 sti heads too
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Old Oct 23, 2011 | 12:31 PM
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2 bar !! Blimey Wiley, what have you done? stuck a rod through the block

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PS you need to think about if you want the hassle of using the TGV lom to fire an AVCS setup or not bother
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sad news buddy hope it comes back stronger

2 bar

bet it felt good for that split second tho

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Old Oct 23, 2011 | 01:23 PM
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Just checked the engine. Block has gone
piece of the engine


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Old Oct 23, 2011 | 02:16 PM
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oops, i see a closed deck with wiseco pistons and mahnley rods in your future

These things are sent to try us, get it sorted, be smiling again in no time.
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Originally Posted by wiley
Just checked the engine. Block has gone
piece of the engine


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Old Oct 23, 2011 | 03:27 PM
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Bad news mate hope you get her up and running soon.
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Old Oct 23, 2011 | 03:54 PM
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Ouch! Nice loooking car though.

My nicely run in 2.1 stroker here.............................complete with free car

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Old Oct 23, 2011 | 03:58 PM
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took the inlet manifold off to check the crack, the whole block, crank, possibly heads are effed





sitting there looking sorry


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Old Oct 23, 2011 | 04:09 PM
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WOW thats a big hole,

better and better a mate
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Bummer. Hope you get it back on the road soon.
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Old Oct 23, 2011 | 04:58 PM
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Fair play... you've done that properly!!!
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