Nyphur

Hi all.

2 questions before I go and look at a newly imported Type R..

1) Will it need remapping for UK fuel? What is involved in this if so
2) Does it need to be converted to MPH and have a rear fog light fitted?

Hope you can help

Thanks

muttleyturbo

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1. no not unless you run it on V power / Tesco 99

2. I don't have mine converted to mph, however it should be done.

3. yes rear fog is required for cars in the UK, my sti rear lights have a fog built into them though.

Nyphur

Thanks for the reply.

your answer 1) confuses me...

It doesn't need a remap UNLESS running on VPower/Tesco 99?
I would have thought the other way round?

Nyphur

Oh and one other question - as the car is a MY98, will it require an SVA?

TonyBurns

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1. as already said though remapping would be preferable
2. Its a requirement by law to have the speedo converted to MPH and to have a rear fog light fitted (and working), the car should under go an IVA (individual vehicle assessment, use to be ESVA/SVA) and has to pass an MOT before being legal on the UK roads.
Also law requires that the car be fitted with a cat 2 immobiliser.

Tony

Nyphur

Thanks Tony.

The seller told me the following:

It hasn't been converted to MPH but they can arrange for it to be done
It doesn't have a rear fog light - but again, they can have one fitted
It doesn't need to undergo an SVA as it is over ten years old (I read something on the DVLA site which led me to agree, but can anyone confirm?)
It has 1 year MOT
It has no alarm/immobiliser

How can it be law to have a cat2 immobiliser? Surely there are thousands of UK cars on the road without that?

Thanks for your help

Steve777

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I would have a remap to be sure. The cost of the remap depends on what ecu it has fitted. Not all imports have a standard ecu and the car you are looking at if it is a standard ecu will not be mappable. My Type r came with an Apexi, which is an aftermarket ecu and fairly reasonable to map. Worth asking what is fitted ?

MattyB1983

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Tony, are you sure it's law to have a cat 2 ImmobIliser ???
I've had a few imports that didn't have/need any sort of alarm or immobiliser to be registered/sva'ed or mot'ed..
Is this a new rule for imports ??

MattyB1983

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To the OP, if you allow the seller/importer to fit a rear fog they may well fit one of those awful lights under the rear bumper, or even worse they may fit one into the bumper.

Steve777

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Mine fog was fitted into the rear light in place of one of the reversing light. Looks much beter than the ones MattyB is refering to. make sure its done like mine !

the hamster

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I have 1 question

How did it pass an MOT without the foglight?

If its a proper importer they would do EVERYTHING for you so the car is UK legal including all the things mentioned.

If its run on V-power/99 it will be ok as they run 100Ron in Japan but a remap would also be beneficial, although being a 1998 this may not be possible without an aftermarket ECU?

Personally, i'd steer clear unless its rock cheap or theyre willing to make it fully legal with MOT, V5 and all the conversions done.

TonyBurns

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Matty, its a requirement by law to have atleast an immobiliser fitted to any car from around 1995ish? or something, its a part of the IVA which covers vehicles older than 10 years that have been imported and use to be a part of the SVA, plus as Hamster said, how did it pass the MOT without a rear fog fitted as that too is a part of the MOT/SVA/ESVA/IVA test.

Tony

dj219957

it wont need a SVA as over 10 years so no alarm/imob needed. it will need fog light for MOT.

Nyphur

Hi all

Thanks for all the replies so far.

Regarding the alarm/immobiliser - I have owned a couple of cars previously which had no alarm/immobiliser from around that age and they were UKDM, so can't see how it can be true? Willing to be proven wrong through!

Regarding the fog light - apologies, I may have mislead you. The images of the car do not show a fog light, however when they were taken the car did NOT have an MOT. It now has an MOT. If there is no fog light in place when I inspect the car, I too will be asking how it managed to pass its MOT.

Thanks guys - anything else I should think of?

the hamster

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yeah, i'd be thinking about looking at something else fella. Any importer that doesnt sell a car on without doing all the conversions etc is a bit fishy in my book. It better be cheap, thats all I can say

the hamster

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is this it?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FRESH-IMPO...ht_1301wt_1263

Nyphur

No

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FRESH-IMPO...ht_3376wt_1185

MattyB1983

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I didn't say I had owned a car without a fog light fitted chaps, I am well aware of the legal duty of one. I merely said if the op let's the seller get on and fit one he may well end up with one cut into his bumper or a dangling one underneath.
My car HAS a fog light fitted into the rear lights and every import I have owned has had one. I speak from previous experience regarding the placement, as a Impreza I bought a few years back had one cut into the bumper. If however, you can view an import that has yet to be SVA'ed advise the man on placement (I have also done this with a V2 I bought).

Regarding the cat 2 immobiliser, I have 100% bought imports without any kind of alarm system. Most recently was a STI V2 (1996 car). Maybe the cut off point is later Tony and the OP's potential car will need one fitting

JohnnyR6

You may not need an immobiliser but for insurance reasons i'd fit a cat1 alarm. A lot of insurers won't touch an import without one.

I'd also fit my own fog light as you can get one you'll like but don't know how it got an MOT without one.

Johnny.

the hamster

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lol, HPI clear on a fresh import, fancy that! and it has TEEN suspension as apposed to "middle aged" suspension and DEFF control, which I think is the volume **** on the stereo??

If it has MOT/Tax and V5 then it MUST have been inspected but the speedo is still showing kph. The seller clearly doesnt know what theyre selling or they would have said more about the DCCD etc, which is why its being sold cheaper than others.

5k buys you better than that IMO

Nyphur

I will be fitting a Cat1 to whatever I end up with - no insurer would touch me without.

Can you tell me why it MUST have been inspected? I can't find anything which says it needs to be SVA/ESVA/IVA if it is over ten years old. If you have something which says otherwise, please let me know - as I genuinely am willing to be proven wrong - I've been looking to find something saying so for hours now!

I've looked back through their history and the seller has sold quite a few Type R's so I assume they know what they are selling. Please can you show me where 5K buys a better Type R, as I've been hunting high and low for the last few weeks

Ginge !

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as said no insurance company will touch a import STI without a cat 1 alarm,,,,, think im required to have a tracker fitted for mine

the hamster

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at the end of the day mate, if thats the car for you then go for it. We can all give advice etc but if its in your heart n head that that one is "the one" then go for it. Dont let us put you off and then miss an opportunity, you could get a bargain and love it.

Good luck to ya

Nyphur

It may sound like I'm having a go, but I'm not - I really want to know what I'm talking about so I don't buy a lemon.

So, when I'm asking where 5K buys a better type R, or for info that says the car MUST be tested, I honestly want to see it.

I'm not saying this is the car for me - but it is one I am going to look at, and want to be as well informed as I can be when I do.

MattyB1983

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There's a nice looking grey one on autotrader, £5495.

As Hamster has pointed out, the advert for the one your looking at really isn't that good. If they have sold lots of these kind of cars then surely they can get the details right hey. Puts me off straight away fella. My opinion (for what it's worth) is to walk away and forget about that one. There are plenty of imprezas to choose from and sellers are willing to drop prices dramatically. It's a buyers market at the minute

dj219957

mine was a fresh import, it was over 10 years and had no alrm or imob, it had no sva. it came with a mot from the guy who imported it for me. i didnt even see the car before i brought it. i brought it from pictures in japan. three years later and the car still puts a smile on my face and has easily been the best car ive ever had.
go and view it and take a mate who can be a second set of eyes. been tempted to get a fresh import type r my self and have looked at the fresh imports on ebay as well.

Nyphur

Is that the one at Keighley? I had a look at that, and found nothing but bad press

https://www.scoobynet.com/dealer-and...rformance.html

https://www.scoobynet.com/scoobynet-...rformance.html

https://www.scoobynet.com/scoobynet-...periences.html

https://www.scoobynet.com/dealer-and...rformance.html

https://www.scoobynet.com/scoobynet-...rformance.html

https://www.scoobynet.com/scoobynet-...de-centre.html

the hamster

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How many do you want?

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3155925.htm

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3262383.htm

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3217366.htm

Nyphur

They're all pretty heavily modified, which I don't want.

MattyB1983

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The one I saw on autotrader was being sold by Brooke motor company. They appear to be selling it on behalf of one of their customers.