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Old 28 June 2011, 05:17 PM
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Evening,

Though this may be of interest to you, answers on a postcard!!

http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets...ust_2010_2.jpg

Some very surprising affiliations.

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Old 28 June 2011, 05:22 PM
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toyota own subaru??
Old 28 June 2011, 05:38 PM
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toyota own subaru??
Correct.

Subaru production in the US was initially funded by GM.

GM did have a %age of FHI but got shot when car market in the US hit the buffers. Toyota jumped in.
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Doesnt own it outright - owns a minority interest
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Last time I heard (i work for toyota) we owned 16.5% of fuji heavy industries which is the owner of subaru.
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Originally Posted by Fat Boy
Doesnt own it outright - owns a minority interest
That's why I said a "% age".
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Just like Renault own Nissan, Man a French GTR! Lol how ****! The toyota Subaru thing is Great, apparently the new AE86 will come in two guises both rear wheel drive the toyota being a 200bhp job with NA Boxer engine and there will be a Subaru version with a Boxer Turbo charged version. I cant wait! A rear wheel drive turbo charged car which almost looks like a baby Supra or celica with a Boxer engine. Yes!! although Toyota need that as theyve lost their way for a while with nothing really of interest on the sports car front.
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Man its likea maze on there
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Originally Posted by Plastikman
Just like Renault own Nissan, Man a French GTR! Lol how ****! The toyota Subaru thing is Great, apparently the new AE86 will come in two guises both rear wheel drive the toyota being a 200bhp job with NA Boxer engine and there will be a Subaru version with a Boxer Turbo charged version. I cant wait! A rear wheel drive turbo charged car which almost looks like a baby Supra or celica with a Boxer engine. Yes!! although Toyota need that as theyve lost their way for a while with nothing really of interest on the sports car front.
We've had a small amount of promo info on the FT-86 come through....but not a lot really....they say its gonna come out 2012....but i really really wouldnt hold your breath lol. Theyve been saying its coming out for so long now, and its now changed so much its becone renamed the FT-86 II....lol
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That's so cool!
Old 29 June 2011, 08:42 AM
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Its a proper head banger, although looking at the groups there should be some world class motors on the market if you were to combine some of the best bits from each!

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What would also be interesting is the same thing for INSURANCE companies.

Surprising to find who are sister companies, and who are the umbrella companies.
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I know most of them, you can see certain trends on price on aggregator websites etc... although some trading names use very basic levels of cover from the insurance companies. With something a little more specialist as a Subaru, it is always worth calling a broker to get a rate, as there are a lot of "broker only" insurance companies.

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Infact, found this.....

Comparison websites:

Confused.com - owned by Admiral.
GoCompare - independent, but have a £30m loan from esure. If they can't pay esure back in cash, esure become a major shareholder.
Compare the Market - owned by Budget.
MoneySupermarket - independent.
tescocompare.com - partly owned by RBS group.

Companies:

Admiral company - owns elephant.co.uk, Bell Direct and Diamond(womens car insurance specialist).
Budget - owns Dial Direct, Local Broker, ibuyeco, Quote Mart, and Junction who run the insurance arms of the Post Office, Marks and Spencer, Debenhams, Bradford & Bingley, Homebase and yesinsurance.com.

HBOS Group - owns Halifax Insurance, esure, Sheilas Wheels and First Alternative.
RBS Group - owns Direct Line, Churchill, Privilege, NIG as well as insurance sold branded as Tesco Insurance, Natwest, Virgin Money, MBNA, BMW Insurance, MINI Insurance, Mint, Egg, Nationwide, Age Concern, Vauxhall Insurance and many others.
Royal & SunAlliance - owns More Than
GroupAMA - owns Carole Nash, Choice Quote, Bollington & Lark
AXA - owns Swiftcover and has a share in Venture Preference. It also offers quotes as Lloyds TSB Insurance and insurance.co.uk
AON - owns Firebond & Footman James
MMA - owns Swinton, its4me & bullseye
Zurich - owns Endsleigh
Fortis - owns RIAS
Kwik-Fit Insurance Services - owns Express Insurance
BDML Connect - owns Lancaster
Fresh Insurance - owns Ladybird and First Insurance
IAG owns - Hastings Direct, People's Choice, Diamond, Advantage, Open & Direct and Equity
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So many companies that don't really need to exist.
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Originally Posted by The Trooper 1815
That's why I said a "% age".
Your same post also answered "Correct" to the question "Toyota own Subaru" which is not correct - they only own a bit- so yah boo sucks to you n all
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That's interesting Chris.

Now, another question: WHY do insurance companies fight to get your business with discounted rates, then NOT give you anything to stay, leading to people swapping insurers every year?
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Good question.

As a broker, I am on your side. If you don't come to me, I don't have a job! You may have seen on TV on the loud opera chaps, or meerkats adverts that insurance premiums have risen 34% this year.

The reason is easy to see if you are sat on my side of the phone; more personal injury claims, more fradulent claims than ever and more cost for courtesy cars etc... the list is endless. Gone are the days where you got hit, car went in for repair, you got a cheap runaround and within a week you were back and motoring again.

You will be pleased to know though, that on average (and I'm sure Mr Moulson and Sky will agree) brokers increases this year are substantially less as we take the time to get the RIGHT details, first time round. Enthusiasts don't cost insurance companies as much money as daily drivers or persistent claimers.

So, yes rates are going up and although it looks like you are getting the juicy worm rate, the increases are only based on the claim culture we have now.

So my advice keep with a broker and you can't go far wrong!

Chris
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Originally Posted by alcazar
That's interesting Chris.

Now, another question: WHY do insurance companies fight to get your business with discounted rates, then NOT give you anything to stay, leading to people swapping insurers every year?
Cos 80% of people don't bother to swap ... too lazy = screwed. It's only the minority that switch. My Dad has been with the same company for 20yrs

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That would make a good poster
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