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Old 10 June 2011, 12:04 AM
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hi all, to cut long story short , my 2002 wrx will be making between 330-350bhp and i currently have a pipercross panel filter fitted .
but im thinking about getting induction kit ? just had a browse and my 3 choices are

1/ cosworth with heatshield at £300!!
2/k&n typhoon with heatshield £200
3/ roger clark motorsport without heatshield £220

will this help me reach my 350bhp target more easily than panel ??
and although roger clarks kit is floating my boat would it make more sense to go for one with a heat shield to avoid heat soak ? cheers

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Green Cotton large air filter. Well under £100.
That's what I use at almost 400 ponies.



Used with cold air feed through fog cover and small carbon air scoop above filter.
Old 10 June 2011, 12:26 AM
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Personally if you have TMIC stick with Panel filter,but really depends which TMIC you have if you have WRX TMIC this will be maxed at 320-330bhp,due this i would recommend FMIC or STi TMIC.

Induction kit is recommended if you are going for serious power.


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Old 10 June 2011, 03:21 PM
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i have a uk300 top mount intercooler and a vf34 turbo " at the moment " so realize it can only make about 350 anyway at best ! but i would like to try and get the most out of it . next year im thinking of bigger turbo , front mount and other mods and go for over 400bhp as a weekend car so havin an induction kit now would save moolah in the future . only thing is ive wasted money on a panel filter and a carbon fibre snorkal for the filter !!

really want the cosworth one but £300 really want roger clark ? but no heat shield might go down local metal works factory and get heatshield made for it . can you buy them seperate ???
Old 10 June 2011, 03:59 PM
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Trust me, your paying for the name with the two mentioned above..
Old 10 June 2011, 04:13 PM
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very true . but they are 2 of the best names in the buiseness. and would love to have either one for that very reason i do like the green though , but cant find a specific kit for my bugeye at the moment ? its nice and large
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Hi

What about the K&N Apollo kit?
Enclosed cone with cold air feed to run down to the front grille/wing so no need for heatshield.
Save yourself a few £££.

http://www.just-subaru.com/my00-02-r...n-69177-0.html

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Originally Posted by REVOLUTION
Hi

What about the K&N Apollo kit?
Enclosed cone with cold air feed to run down to the front grille/wing so no need for heatshield.
Save yourself a few £££.

http://www.just-subaru.com/my00-02-r...n-69177-0.html

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Was going to mention an Apollo,but beaten to it!
Had one fitted to my bug.moved the front o/s fog light for the cold air feed,without problems.
I also had a vf 34,pinks,Walbro,fmic etc etc-couldn't get anywhere near to 330-350 though.Maybe it was the ecutek software restricting things-best of luck with your efforts though!

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thanks for the suggestions guys apollo makes alot of sense but its ugly as hell
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i have an APS CAI induction and its a decent well made bit of kit and works brilliantly
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http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/Perfor...ilters/571/421

Don't waste money because the 'name' is good. Just because it's got a good name doesn't make it actually work any better.
The money you save could be used on something else for your car chap.
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Really RCM kits are proven and are really best for money,if you are using Cone filter create air duct/cold air feed from flexible hose(these are used for Brake cooling).


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Originally Posted by MattyB1983
Green Cotton large air filter. Well under £100.
That's what I use at almost 400 ponies.



Used with cold air feed through fog cover and small carbon air scoop above filter.
What's the size of that filter? Do you remember the part no of it as i'm looking into getting a filter when I finish my build.
Cheers
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Originally Posted by jura11
Really RCM kits are proven and are really best for money,if you are using Cone filter create air duct/cold air feed from flexible hose(these are used for Brake cooling).


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Don't RCM just use K and N filter element though ???
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Originally Posted by jdc1
What's the size of that filter? Do you remember the part no of it as i'm looking into getting a filter when I finish my build.
Cheers
Can't remember off the top of my head. I'll get out and measure it tomorrow chap and post it up for you.
I'm running maffless though so not sure if you would want the same size as mine.
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Originally Posted by MattyB1983
Can't remember off the top of my head. I'll get out and measure it tomorrow chap and post it up for you.
I'm running maffless though so not sure if you would want the same size as mine.
Cheers mate, I'm still running the maf but that may change depending if I change from my power fc to something else.
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You may end up with a cold air intake that fouls your FMIC pipework, do both together and save yourself a mapping session.

IMHO.

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I don't rate the Rcm induction kit . Without a cold air feed they suck in too much hot air and with a cold air feed from the foglight area the maf gets confused and makes the car stall when changing down through the gears or approaching junctions . I will be replacing mine with an Aps kit before my next remap .
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Originally Posted by MattyB1983
Don't RCM just use K and N filter element though ???
Yes using K&N element,but diameter you can hardly buy directly from K&N...



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Originally Posted by initialD
i have a uk300 top mount intercooler and a vf34 turbo " at the moment "
The UK300 TMIC core is the same as a WRX Dont be fooled into thinking its any different to a run-of-the-mill WRX TMIC

Also just watch the torques when you go for 350 ish, as they can be a bit of a killer for the ol 5 Speed.

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but it is quite a bit larger than my wrx cooler ? thanks for the advice mate no launches for me
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gave in to temptation !!! got the roger clark on the way with some cold air duct and 2 discreet duct vents going on either side of number plate on the black plastic bit ? should be subtle and i had to get 2 of em just so it all looks semetrical ....................im funny like that
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My Spec C Type 20 had a cold air feed when I got it.

It feeds from front bumper (ie foglight hole). I understand why cold air would be better, but how does it provide air which is colder than std box filter? Is it just because it's further away from the engine? And does it bypass the std filter (appears to still be in place)?
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Originally Posted by initialD
gave in to temptation !!! got the roger clark on the way with some cold air duct and 2 discreet duct vents going on either side of number plate on the black plastic bit ? should be subtle and i had to get 2 of em just so it all looks semetrical ....................im funny like that
You can try create something like this



And create cold air feed at foglight cover.


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Originally Posted by initialD
gave in to temptation !!! got the roger clark on the way with some cold air duct and 2 discreet duct vents going on either side of number plate on the black plastic bit ? should be subtle and i had to get 2 of em just so it all looks semetrical ....................im funny like that
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As well as the cold air feed you need a heat shield to stop the hot engine air from being sucked in

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Originally Posted by Midlife......
As well as the cold air feed you need a heat shield to stop the hot engine air from being sucked in

Shaun
yea might get one made from local metal works factory , then polish it up ?
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errr , any ideas where i can route the cold air pipe ? fog light is out of question ! and havin a look at it , seems it could be harder than i first anticipated ! this sounds stupid but dont really know how to describe it ? its like a radiator infront of my radiator ??? is that to do with air con ? i could remove that and free up some room
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Don't neeed to go as fancy as that, make a cardboard template, cut it out, glue a rubber strip around it and job done

I'll post a couple of pics if I can find them later


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Why is the foglight a no-no ??

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