mcactive

me mate says these will kick scooby ***? don't believe! know what these machines are capable of?

mcactive

someone must know?

astraboy

In a srtaight line there aint much that can compete with 500bhp. Round the twisties it might be a bit of a handful though
astraboy.

logiclee

Is the rs500 standard?

MarkCSC

If standard a normal cossie or Scooby would **** all over it. Because of the T4 turbo it would have huuuge lag but not at lot of go 224bhp.
Tuned silly power can be produced very easily. 500+bhp is simple (ish) http://www.rsownersclub.co.uk/car_info/Serrs500.htm

astraboy

Innit, filter, exhaust, low comp. pistons and a rechip... Bingo, 500 or so bhp.
8 injectors T4 turbo style.
astraboy.

Keefyboy

Just to add a bit of info for you boys,

We ran a Castle tuned RS500 at Brunters recently and it ran 174mph at the end of the straight. It's been officially dyno'd at 504bhp. But we've also had 182.6mph out of one before too...

Look at the mag in the shops with the car featured on p14.

Keith Wood
Performance Ford Magazine

Gary Foster

500 Bhp is easy LMAO you make it sound like a couple of grand and off you go, maybe you should ask any one of the owners how much they've spent to get there

I'd love one of course.

Gary

jonny gav

iTrader: (1)

RS 500,its a classic and will cost a fortune to run as an every day car.(its a 2nd car only really)

the scooby is a car you can use for work and have great fun in at the weekends too!

all depends on what you want the car for.

chrisp

Just talk to a 500bhp cossie owner and ask how much of the engine resembles the original unit and how much it cost . Most I have spoke to just laugh and wouldnt dare calculate how much it has really cost and how many rebuilds. Pretty cheap to get to 300bhp and with a bigger budget and a few tweaks 350bhp, a fully reliable 400+ motor does cost though not just a case of upping the boost.

[Edited by chrisp - 4/18/2002 8:07:59 PM]

CC

chrisp, the standard RS500 engine was *built* specifically for big bhp and thus does come with lots of goodies to make it a relatively smooth transition to big power.

there are significant differences between cossie engines as found in the 3-door, 4x4, and RS500.

CAPTAIN CAVEMAN

would love one but its still a "sierra" even if its fast as ****. +eats diffs and gearboxes regular, if driven PROPERLY that is !

chrisp

CC exactly the standard 200/220bhp cossie engine needs some serious goodies and money before it can take big power. The RS500 engine was built to a high spec but obviously not as many of them about

[Edited by chrisp - 4/18/2002 9:38:04 PM]

Mo

Back to the original question, top end yes anything upwards of 80mph yes again. 154mph 0-62 in 6ish seconds. 224bhp 204lb/ft

I'd say the scooby has it beaten everywhere else

Shaun

A standard Scoob would whoop a standard RS500 around a track. A standard RS500 driven by a proper driver (lets be honest, to drive ANY RWD car properly you have to be a very good driver), against a standard Scoob with a normal road driver, would be interesting.

It's all horses for courses.

The other questions..........

To tune a RS500 is still VERY expensive. The only things you would save money on, over a normal 4x4 or 2wd Cossie, is the T4 turbo, injector rails and plennum, block type. A basic engine cost for 500bhp is approximately 10k from Harvey Gibbs. If you take off the £1000 for T4 and £1000-£1500 for the injector rail and plennum, you will have your saving. This price does not include the transmission side, which would need to include a uprated gearbox, clutch and diff etc etc, which would mean at least another 3.5k.

This is not a straight forward conversion, as the car will have a touring class engine spec.

Regards,
Shaun.


[Edited by Shaun - 4/19/2002 3:44:58 AM]

Greggers

It all depends on what you're after. The RS500 is a rare variant of the Cossie - the 500 in the name is indicative of how many were made (so for a 15 year old car with high power, you can imagine there ain't loads about now).
Therefore, these are much sort after, and I'm afraid the 'but its still a "sierra" ' is a futile comment. If you don't like Fords - don't get one, pretty straight forward.

However, if you like RWD cars (which I do - I drive a stg1 2wd Sapphire Cosworth) these have to be the daddies of the range.
It is true to suggest that driving fast 'round bends is difficult with a lot of power on tap (I only run about 250bhp [for now ] at the mo, and it goes sideways very easily), but the fact that the RS500 p!ssed the touring car series a decade or so proves when it has been set up right, and is driven right , it is a very fast car.

I've only driven one Scoob, and was impressed by the take off and the handling - VERY different to rwd! - (oh, and the sound of course ).

Depends what you like: a new, up to date, sleek, fast, good handling car; or an ageing classic (that I think is stunning) that is huge fun, and can be made very rapid, for not too much money.


greg

Rottie1

Just sold my stage 3 cossie for a MY99 uk turbo.

In a real and safe world the Subaru is the quicker car. The cossie on any multi dual carridge way is alot of fun and very quick but..... it has to be straight and by that i mean the direction of the car as well as road. My cossie was memorable for going from an indicated 90mph to 110mph in under 5 secs in fifth! great fun but how often do you get to use that against other cars.

My jorney times will be a lot quicker in a scoob. But on the right day and road the cossies are awesome. In the end i sold mine because thoose days are few and far between.Shame.

Subaru is fun on any day!

Rottie

RB5SCOTT

The R500 was timed at 8.3 to the ton

Scott

Edited to put Autocar's figures

145mph................ 0-60 in 3.4 ..............0-100 in 8.1

[Edited by RB5SCOTT - 4/19/2002 6:18:26 PM]

RB5SCOTT

DOH

Ignore that last post, unless you wanted to know about Caterhams