dsemuk

Wet tonight, windy, loads of wet leaves on the twisty B roads.

Just done a 45 mile round trip to drop off a repaired laptop at a friends house.

Front wheel drive and any sort of torque would have simply resulted in wheel spinning or loads of understeer, or both

STi hatch + Sport# =

Having driven FWD diesels for the last 15 or so years this is fun.

albob

where abouts in lincolnshire was this?? I was doing the same thing (lincoln/washingboro'/tatershall/orby/grimsby) in a van!! ---- not nice, the combination of wet and wind made for slippy roads and reminded me why I hate Winter !!!!

mgcvk

I think you would have found any car driven sensibly perfectly capable in these conditions. I'm not trying to be sarcastic, love my scooby, but I have found subaru four wheel drive treacherous in slippery conditions.

leecalcars

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You got the right tyres on !

Wurzel

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Ideal conditions for winter tyres gents.

Glowplug

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Yes the traction compered to FWD is exellent.

Just remember, it is not infallible, and will let go.

scooby L

Also did a 20 mile round trip last night in the same conditions... planted... enjoying every moment of STI ownership and the available torque from duncan's map is just stupid..

rossyboy

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As above, I'd like to know what tyres you have? Treacherous is the last way I'd describe the grip in those conditions Confidence inspiring is more like it for me (Conti Sport Contact 3)

Treacherous is Integra DC5 (our other car).

lazadude

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Got CSC 3's on mine, Great Tyre IMO.

rossyboy

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Just checked their replacement price though - £489 fitted

TonyBurns

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What people seem to be forgetting is that when you have no grip due to road conditions, it doesn't matter whether you have fwd, rwd or 4wd, your going off the road.
Adapting for the conditions rather than hoping the car will do it for you is a far safer way of driving

Tony

lazadude

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Last set I got at 113 quid a corner

But then tyres are such key components I'm willing to pay it.

urban

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We'll said

I find it strange that a lot of people both Subaru drivers and more so those of other marques see Subaru drivers as invincible.
Probably because of WRC

M4RKG

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Yep, theres defo a reason Impreza insurance prices are so high... drivers (young and old) thinking they are, as said, "Invincible"

Blue and Gold

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surely anyone with any sense regardless of age would be aware of wet/slippy roads covered in leaves and possibly mud and drive to the conditions.
My last car was a 320bhp mr2 turbo and people were always telling me to be careful in the wet and so on but I never once had a problem because I drove to the road conditions and all inputs of power or steering or brakes were done gradually not just stamp on the pedal and point in the direction you want to go.

urban

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Yeah - but that wasn't AWD

And you didn't see professional rally drivers on TV driving it sideways on a loose surface at 60 mph either

Also - your comments are not sensible either in the great scheme of things

"anyone with any sense regardless of age"
Here lieth the problem - young bucks don't have any sense.
Especially when they're behind the wheel of a "rally car"

scooby L

Have I missed a post in this thread?

The OP is talking about how superb his Impreza felt on a 45 mile trip that included wet roads and leaves... and somehow it's turned into a young holligan driving sideways?

TonyBurns

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Scooby L, I take it you missed this bit?
I drive a fwd diesel as well as the scoob, if your driving like a hooligan then yes, it will result in spinning wheels and lots of understeer, hence my comments before
And wet leaves as said can hide all sorts of wonderous things underneath (mud mainly) and i have already explained what happens if you dont adapt to the road conditions

Tony

scooby L

Ohhh I just put that down to pub bragging not actual fact..oops

[-(o)-]

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I'll beg to differ. AWD, low CoG (alloy boxer engine) and decent f:r weight distribution will result in better utilisation of available grip. How you choose to drive it/crash it is up to you.

scooby L

I don't think anyone is disagreeing the Impreza grips well... I think they were advising he take less risks where fallen leaves and B roads are involved

On a seperate note, I took the old man out the other day and after the 4th corner he laughed and said "this thing corners like a bloody go-cart"

He drives an A6 boat BTW...which you "guide" rather than steer...
and as for feedback through the steering wheel..fat chance

scoobyd00999

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I agree .Why is it that someone on here posts a thread and all of a sudden the forum police have to start spouting off about what he should have done.He only said he enjoyed the drive and it is his car

TonyBurns

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A couple of months back an RB320 was flying down our road (about 20mph over the limit) with all its wonderous low centre of gravity, AWD system etc, it was raining and had been for some time, said RB320 driver had a bit of a shock going through the deep water that rolled off the hills, he slowed down after that
Low centre of gravity, fantastic wet weather tyres etc etc etc, you come round the corner at inappropriate speeds for the conditions and it will bite you!

Tony

scooby L

@00999

6 months ago I'd have agreed with you 100%...

But after reading that BMW M5 forum thing where everyone told this kid to slow down (after he was bragging about speeds etc in his dad's M5)... and then they all heard he had killed himself (and 4 others I think) 2 weeks later while driving 100mph+....

So I can understand if people want to suggest caution... you only live once

Blue and Gold

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At 23 I think I qualify as young and I have never had the urge to try to get my car sideways on a public road and I go to rally wales gb most years so I always see or rather used to see imprezas going sideways so really and truly my comments weren't stupid and I know my mr2 wasn't AWD but thats part of the point ANY car can and will slide with an idiot at the wheel but a driver with some common sense will read the road and see this hazard regardless of them being 17 or 77 and drive to the conditions

scoobyd00999

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I agree with what you are saying but in the OP he doesnt say anything about driving like a **** ,just that he had a enjoyable drive.

dsemuk

Oh dear what have I started!

I had a fun, safe drive in inclement weather conditions, I was driving within my limits, the prevailing road conditions, the limits of my car whilst respecting other road users.

I suspect some folks on here maybe have said I was dawdling

I don't want to give anyone the impression I drive like a hooligan at any time.

paulwrxboro

dont diss the 2WD

Glowplug

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Especially if it's RWD.

motorola222

i think u shud all stop whining and try doing it on motorbike!!!!