Subaru/Toyota Coupe
12 October 2010, 02:50 PM
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Subaru/Toyota Coupe
Toyota Exec Meetings - Confirmed FT-86 To Be a Scion in the USA
Ive been sitting on this information in disbelief, however we have other confirmations in hand now. According to our inside source at Toyota the FT-86 is going to be released as a Scion in the USA. Toyota and Scion Marketing and Management adjourned across the US this past Tuesday to receive the news. Their reasons behind using Scion is reported as Marketability and pricing structure, Scions as you might know share a fixed pricing structure at all dealerships. If released as a Toyota the FT86 could be suspect to price hikes. In the end it sounded like Subaru and Toyota thought that Scion was the best choice for the FT-86, I strongly disagree.
The report also included that of a 2.5l Engine would make it to production. The current engine "marketed" with the Toyota FT-86 is only a 2.0 liter. The choice of the 2.5l is a good one. However they are also increasing the original entry level price range around $25,000 US.
In the meeting was a 3D hologram of the FT-86, although its not known if it was changed or as the Scion branding. Our source also provided details of the Subaru variant, and I'm afraid to the bad news continues. The Subaru 216a is expected to be released in Euro markets only. We did not receive reports of the other Markets, such as Asia, Australia, Japan. These markets would be more likely to get a Toyota and not a Scion, which isn't an international brand.
The car is expected to be break into US shores at the NY Auto Show this April.
Price Range: $25,000
Expected Date: 2012, after the the Scion IQ.
Engine: 2.5 Liter Boxer
Name: Still undecided, although Likely Scion FR-S
Body Style Changes: Yes, slightly more square.
UPDATE: I had more time with my source and they explained this is Toyota's last ditch move to save the failing brand, Scion. Scion sells well in California, Texas, but not that well anywhere else. I was also told the body design will be slight changed, Toyota doesn't want the FT-86 to compete with the Lexus IS brand so they are making the design a bit more square. More bad news if you ask me.
So the European market gets a Coupe branded Subaru not Toyota.
Now the hard part, will it sell and for how much?
Ive been sitting on this information in disbelief, however we have other confirmations in hand now. According to our inside source at Toyota the FT-86 is going to be released as a Scion in the USA. Toyota and Scion Marketing and Management adjourned across the US this past Tuesday to receive the news. Their reasons behind using Scion is reported as Marketability and pricing structure, Scions as you might know share a fixed pricing structure at all dealerships. If released as a Toyota the FT86 could be suspect to price hikes. In the end it sounded like Subaru and Toyota thought that Scion was the best choice for the FT-86, I strongly disagree.
The report also included that of a 2.5l Engine would make it to production. The current engine "marketed" with the Toyota FT-86 is only a 2.0 liter. The choice of the 2.5l is a good one. However they are also increasing the original entry level price range around $25,000 US.
In the meeting was a 3D hologram of the FT-86, although its not known if it was changed or as the Scion branding. Our source also provided details of the Subaru variant, and I'm afraid to the bad news continues. The Subaru 216a is expected to be released in Euro markets only. We did not receive reports of the other Markets, such as Asia, Australia, Japan. These markets would be more likely to get a Toyota and not a Scion, which isn't an international brand.
The car is expected to be break into US shores at the NY Auto Show this April.
Price Range: $25,000
Expected Date: 2012, after the the Scion IQ.
Engine: 2.5 Liter Boxer
Name: Still undecided, although Likely Scion FR-S
Body Style Changes: Yes, slightly more square.
UPDATE: I had more time with my source and they explained this is Toyota's last ditch move to save the failing brand, Scion. Scion sells well in California, Texas, but not that well anywhere else. I was also told the body design will be slight changed, Toyota doesn't want the FT-86 to compete with the Lexus IS brand so they are making the design a bit more square. More bad news if you ask me.
So the European market gets a Coupe branded Subaru not Toyota.
Now the hard part, will it sell and for how much?
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14 October 2010, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Blue Dragoon
Now the hard part, will it sell and for how much?
14 October 2010, 12:47 PM
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Subaru sell theirs dearer here, built in Japan, Honda sell theirs dearer here, built here
Doesn't matter WHERE it's built, WE pay top dollar. As a MINIMUM, we pay £££ for $$$, The Japs don't call this Treasure Island for nowt
14 October 2010, 02:20 PM
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Don't talk daft. WHY would it still be £25,000?
Subaru sell theirs dearer here, built in Japan, Honda sell theirs dearer here, built here
Doesn't matter WHERE it's built, WE pay top dollar. As a MINIMUM, we pay £££ for $$$, The Japs don't call this Treasure Island for nowt
Subaru sell theirs dearer here, built in Japan, Honda sell theirs dearer here, built here
Doesn't matter WHERE it's built, WE pay top dollar. As a MINIMUM, we pay £££ for $$$, The Japs don't call this Treasure Island for nowt
. You missed the irony in my post.
14 October 2010, 07:09 PM
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Here's an example of "Rip Off UK". US STi prices, notice the 5 door STi as well!
Subaru Impreza WRX STI
The Subaru performance leader, the WRX STI, returns as a 4-door sedan - along with the 5-door for the 2011MY. The Subaru Impreza WRX STI 4-door starts at $1,000 less than the 2010 WRX STI 5-Door (non-Special Edition) at $33,995. In addition to its wide-body style, the WRX STI sedan also brings back its signature impressive rear trunk spoiler. All WRX STI models include the All Weather Package.
The WRX STI is powered by a 2.5 liter, turbocharged and intercooled Subaru Boxer® engine pumping out 305 horsepower. To further improve its performance, the 2011MY WRX STI has a retuned suspension that includes improved suspension bushings, larger front/rear stabilizer bars, and stiffer front/rear coil springs that provide tighter handling, less body roll and improved steering feel. All WRX STI models are available with optional GPS Touch-Screen Navigation with a 7" LCD touch-screen for $1,800. Additionally, all WRX and WRX STI models also receive a new mesh-type grill along with an upgraded audio system that includes standard Bluetooth hands-free calling and audio streaming, iPod control capability, an auxiliary input jack, USB port, and XM/Sirius capability with a roof mounted antenna.
A new trim level, the Subaru Impreza WRX STI Limited 4-door, is added with a starting price of $37,345 and includes leather-trimmed upholstery, 18-inch BBS alloy wheels, power moonroof and fog lights.
The Subaru Impreza WRX STI Limited 5-door starts at $35,995, and includes 18-inch BBS alloy wheels.
The Destination and Delivery charge for these and all 2011 Subaru models is $725 (Alaska D&D is $875). Complete WRX and WRX STI model information and prices can be found at www.media.subaru.com.
Subaru of America continues to enjoy record sales after its best-ever sales year in 2009, with June sales up 35-percent year-to-date.
Subaru Impreza WRX STI
The Subaru performance leader, the WRX STI, returns as a 4-door sedan - along with the 5-door for the 2011MY. The Subaru Impreza WRX STI 4-door starts at $1,000 less than the 2010 WRX STI 5-Door (non-Special Edition) at $33,995. In addition to its wide-body style, the WRX STI sedan also brings back its signature impressive rear trunk spoiler. All WRX STI models include the All Weather Package.
The WRX STI is powered by a 2.5 liter, turbocharged and intercooled Subaru Boxer® engine pumping out 305 horsepower. To further improve its performance, the 2011MY WRX STI has a retuned suspension that includes improved suspension bushings, larger front/rear stabilizer bars, and stiffer front/rear coil springs that provide tighter handling, less body roll and improved steering feel. All WRX STI models are available with optional GPS Touch-Screen Navigation with a 7" LCD touch-screen for $1,800. Additionally, all WRX and WRX STI models also receive a new mesh-type grill along with an upgraded audio system that includes standard Bluetooth hands-free calling and audio streaming, iPod control capability, an auxiliary input jack, USB port, and XM/Sirius capability with a roof mounted antenna.
A new trim level, the Subaru Impreza WRX STI Limited 4-door, is added with a starting price of $37,345 and includes leather-trimmed upholstery, 18-inch BBS alloy wheels, power moonroof and fog lights.
The Subaru Impreza WRX STI Limited 5-door starts at $35,995, and includes 18-inch BBS alloy wheels.
The Destination and Delivery charge for these and all 2011 Subaru models is $725 (Alaska D&D is $875). Complete WRX and WRX STI model information and prices can be found at www.media.subaru.com.
Subaru of America continues to enjoy record sales after its best-ever sales year in 2009, with June sales up 35-percent year-to-date.
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