day tripper

Do you think the classic impreza will become a modern classic?

I don't particularly mean will they apprieciate in price like an Esc Cos or a Integrale but I mean will they be a classic in the minds of people?

Skeg Vegas v1 STI

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In my mind defo, its the legendary car that started everything off. It was crap we wouldn all be so crazy about them and the models after might have never existed!!

Plus its the iconic image of colin mcrae in a classic scooby that sums up why I love them...they're awesome!! By the way im biased coz mines a classic lol

my94wrx

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possibly, eventually when every ones stops sticking decals lexarse lights, and stupid body kits, and worrying which dump valve is loudest, just my opinion

Skeg Vegas v1 STI

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Damn straight, they look pants!! however they do make the rest of us look good, plus they drive like dicks and dont look after them properly so they break soon enough anyway

SimonD

Good original low mileage ones will probably start to hold their value and even appreciate a little. Modded ones are in their own little market.
It's early days for "Classic" status though.

TonyBurns

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In one word, no.
There are far too many of which far too many are bad examples of the marque.
Certain models like the 22b (probably the only one that will be a classic)

Tony

TonyBurns

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dnc

As Tony says, 22B only IMHO.
dnc

Scoob99

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In my opinion it already has, I love my classic
Cheers
Colin

m@t STImulation

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if you go back mk1 and mk2 escort's where 10 a penny

OcTag3n

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I believe the 22B, P1, Type R, & the rare limited special edition production runs will.

They will need to be standard immaculate examples to start appreciating but I believe it will happen on those models eventually.

Just look at the Series 1 RS Turbo.

scooblee

Have to dissagree, although i do agree the 22b will of course become a classic, how many people would want to fork that sort of money out for an old subaru.

Back in the day look at the sapphire cosworth and how many examples were running around with all manner of ****e bolted to them, now all of them cars are dead and buried good examples are now becoming well sort after and verging on classic status.

4 years ago i bought a Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth, i paid £17200 for the car, 22k from new, if i sold the car now i could ask £40k, i would never pay that sort of money as i just dont believe an old sierra is worth it, just like the 22b so the more available classics will become a much more bank account friendly alternative.

Jamz3k

nope, wont be a classic. 22B will be a future classic as will the P1 due people thinking its Jesus instead of poorly specced STi Type R with shiny bits on the outside.

BLACK V5

Anything can be called a classic when its old enough.

TonyBurns

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There are alot more subaru's on the road than there were ever Saph cosworths, the RS500's would always hold their value (and good ones still do), your average run of the mill ones dont hold (or command) anywhere near that sort of cash.

The 22B will be the only classic that will become a classic, not type R's, RA's, UK turbo's or any other limited edition, though the 3 door cars will demand a higher price due to them being a coupe

Tony (old enough to remember when the saph cosworths came out and wanting one but the insurance was a killer )

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It's a possibility, when I was 18 a few years ago you could pick up a v.nice mini for £500, even sheds sell for good money these days !

G-string

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i think it will, doesnt have to go up in value to be a classic as long as its original and in good nick. As said though i think all the 2doors will definately and they will go up in value.

pooeater

Tony why do you hate the classic so much? from all the great advice you give to ppl and not one good word to say about a classic

g7prs

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Tony is just saying what he thinks and it sounds spot on to me. There are thousands of classics on the road! The good ones will become rarer and the preface lifts even more so as most get face lifted.

subarutim

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it all depends on what you call a classic,i used to know a guy who had an old bmw 318 convertible and it was considered a classic.(not by me i hasten to add!)

TonyBurns

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I own a version 5 type R, 31k miles on the clock, I also own a Spec C limited (2003) with 22k on the clock, why do I hate classics?
What im saying is from years of experience, having owned 2 classics (an MY00 from new and the Type R) and 2 MY03 Spec C's (one from new), so its experience, and seeing the ammount on the roads that really are sheds, badly tuned, badly sprayed etc, the only one I would go for (well apart from my type R ) would be another type R/RA or a 22B, and the 22B would be top of the list (though a weekend toy).
Even then, given the option of the 22B or the JDM twin scroll car, the twin scroll car would be top of the list, its just evolution of the marque, you see the classic as a great car, and it was, back in the 90's, its no longer a great car, its a good car but its very outdated and numbers kill its value (this is why IM imported in very small numbers back in the 90's, a 2 year old turbo would go for 2-3k less than a new one, it kept their value up).
There are alot of good classics out there, but there are far more bad ones, the car isnt designated for greatness like a 205 GTI is for example, and only certain models get that spot, thats what you have to understand.
We all love our cars but very few are very special in the big picture

Tony

+Doc+

I think with the P1 being an official supercar can be classed as a classic right now.
Anything shipped in from Japan with far too many letters after it's name will never be a classic....

chocolate_o_brian

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The 205's are going back up in value now. Paid £900 for my now sold one in June 2008 and got all that back and more when I sold it 2 years later with 22,000 more miles on the clock

Would love another one. Would love another Scoob more though as long as it wasn't a chavved up classic

Jimbob

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Think that the prefacelift will be a classic as most either have been changed to facelift, or have been changed drastically, or wrapped up.
Problem with the Scoobs is the low fuel consumption, high cost of insurance, and high cost of parts. Plus people try modding and they go pop, so have a bad rep, when 99% of the time its the owners negligence.

scooblee

[quote=+Doc+;9562386]I think with the P1 being an official supercar can be classed as a classic right now.

When the engines dont let go every 40k they are great

chocolate_o_brian

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[quote=scooblee;9562516]In theory the original engine was more likely the only one to go. This was a mapping issue with the fuelin which would see many of the P1's requiring new engines around the 40-60k mark.

As long as when the rebuild was done, the correct map was used for fuel, then there wasn't/isn't any reason why if looked after a P1 couldn't run for another 200,000 miles easy.

Only the same as the STi V5/V6 models (which the P1 was simply a dumbed down UK version of) which were prone to going pop due to det and the incorrect fuel map. Any reputable Subaru specialist or knowledgeable head on here would agree

Frosticles

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Classics in my eyes are the modern day mk2 escorts. Loads around but will gain classic status be they uk turbo's (run of the mill mk2's) RA's (mk2 sports) sti's, type R's (mk2 rsmexico/2000) p1/22b (rs1800)
Give them another 20 years and if petrol is still available they will certainly become classics.

TonyBurns

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The car isnt good enough to become a "classic", hence why I pointed to the 22B, which "IS" good enough.
All the rest will eventually fall by the wayside, just read my large post for why
But its normally classic owners who think that all classics will become classic and those who have owned (or own) both classic and new age cars that see the real world.

Tony

TonyBurns

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If you want to see a great example of a classic from this era, just look here

http://electricwiringdiagram.com/wp-...ng-diagram.jpg

Tony

Frosticles

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No one thought a 1.1 2 door mk2 escort popular plus would become a classic but it has.
Any car with a cult status and motorsport history is destined to become a future classic. People who wouldn't be able to afford 22b prices will start to look lower down in the range. Golf's are going the same way.