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Old 27 June 2010, 08:38 PM
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Only just seen this at Opie. What do you guys think?

Produced exclusively for the UK market.


MOTUL SPORT 5W-50
High Performance Lubricant
100% Synthetic – Ester

TYPE OF USE
Very high performance cars powered by diesel or gasoline, naturally aspirated or turbocharged multi-valve injection engines. Engines tuned operating in a wide range of rpm and temperatures, in the most severe driving conditions.
Engines producing medium to high dilution in the oil.
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PERFORMANCES
STANDARDS: API SM / CF
Ester Technology : Ester based formula to ensure outstanding oil film resistance at very high temperature, for maximum horsepower, torque output and wear protection. Oil pressure is stable whatever the conditions of use.
API SM / CF : Highest API ( American Petroleum Institute ) performance level :
Improved oxidation resistance, improved deposit protection, better wear protection, and better low-temperature performance over the life of the oil for perfect compatibility with the latest generations of engines requiring a lubricant with the specification API SM / CF.
5W-50 grade allows excellent oil flow into the engine, fastest oil pressure set up and faster rev raisings.

RECOMMENDATIONS
Oil change: according to your own use, or tuner’s recommendations.
Can be mixed with synthetic or mineral lubricants.

PROPERTIES
Viscosity grade SAE J 300 5W-50
Density at 20°C (59°F) ASTM D1298 0.845
Viscosity at 100°C (212°F) ASTM D445 17.9 mm²/s
Viscosity at 40°C (104°F) ASTM D445 107 mm²/s
Viscosity Index ASTM D2270 186
HTHS viscosity at 150°C (302°F) ASTM D4741 4.49 mPa.s
Pour point ASTM D97 -45°C / -49°F
Flash point ASTM D92 244°C / 471.2°F
TBN ASTM D2896 8.4 mg KOH/g
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Never less than 10 W anything in a Subaru turbo if you want to keep the engine in one bit. REGARDLESS of all the technical jargon.

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Old 28 June 2010, 08:43 PM
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Well there you go. Thanks David. Does Subaru not recomend 5w30 oil?
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miller cfs 10w50 is ur best bet
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Originally Posted by fastboyslim
Well there you go. Thanks David. Does Subaru not recomend 5w30 oil?
Yeah - Subaru say that 5w30 is "preferred" for my 2005 WRX as per the owner's manual. For severe driving conditions they say 10w50 or 20w40 or 20w50
Old 29 June 2010, 08:58 AM
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When will people learn

10W - 40 is what Subaru recommend ...... STICK WITH THAT!

Too many Hobbyists play about thinking they know better .... 50 is treacle and 5W is water - go ahead use it, after all it 'looks' impressive!
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Originally Posted by fastboyslim
Well there you go. Thanks David. Does Subaru not recomend 5w30 oil?

Yeah maybe they do, but their current track record for busted engines with no explanation is not great.

We are happy with 10W40 or 10W50 or 15W40 & 15/W50 The Castrol RS 60 grade is, in my opinion, too far the other way and will cost power. After all 75 grade is gear oil.................

As I understand it the larger number is what the oil actually is and the lower number is how it behaves at minus 5 celcius.

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David, Just a quick question...

what particular Gear oil does API regularly use in 6 speed boxes?

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Originally Posted by apac
David, Just a quick question...

what particular Gear oil does API regularly use in 6 speed boxes?

cheers
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Generic 75W90. If we get a chance on a fresh box we use Motul semi synth 75W90 as it will prolong the life of the bearings and synchros BUT putting it in at anything over 20,000 miles is too late to make much of a difference, , long term.

For hard track use we use Motul Gear Competition 75W140 fully synth. BUT it is eye watering expensive at £32.50 per litre. +VAT

However, they say that once you have bought it it will last forever, just drain it and sieve it through some ladies tights [ ideally after she has taken them off ] and re-use it as it is ' for life ' oil.

So in the long term it may not be too expensive providing some clot doesn't drain it and bin it.

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Thanks for the reply David. I've just had my 6 speed box overhauled by you and your team and the gear shift has never been smoother. I just didn't really get chance to ask about the oil at the time. Cheers
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Originally Posted by apac
Thanks for the reply David. I've just had my 6 speed box overhauled by you and your team and the gear shift has never been smoother. I just didn't really get chance to ask about the oil at the time. Cheers
Thanks for letting us know that you're happy - Good Luck, thanks for your custom.

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Apologies to the OP for the hijack......
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Originally Posted by APIDavid
just drain it and sieve it through some ladies tights [ ideally after she has taken them off ] and re-use it as it is ' for life ' oil.
****. I've just chucked a load of expensive synth gear oil away that had only done a few hundred miles (because I drained it for a release bearing collapse and got bits of crap in it). Good idea for next time though.
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