MOT fail question
22 March 2010, 05:52 PM
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MOT fail question
my impreza fail its mot earlier on:
offside rear fog lamp missing (it bloody aint i had to show him after how to turn it on)
offside rear registration plate lamp not working (bulb, fixed)
but the thing im most bothered about is...
offside and nearside rear (couldn't turn wheel freely when jacked up and handbrake off) mechanic brake component has restricted free movement.
offside and nearside rear wheel bearings. items not checked.
basically he said he cant turn the rear wheels freely to check the rear wheel bearings. i told him the cars got a rear lsd that would make it heavy but he didnt listen.
what the heck do i do about that ive jack the car up and can definatly turn the wheels with no problems, just heavy because the rear diff and driveshaft wheel is turning on the opposite side too.
so what do i do about that?
offside rear fog lamp missing (it bloody aint i had to show him after how to turn it on)
offside rear registration plate lamp not working (bulb, fixed)
but the thing im most bothered about is...
offside and nearside rear (couldn't turn wheel freely when jacked up and handbrake off) mechanic brake component has restricted free movement.
offside and nearside rear wheel bearings. items not checked.
basically he said he cant turn the rear wheels freely to check the rear wheel bearings. i told him the cars got a rear lsd that would make it heavy but he didnt listen.
what the heck do i do about that ive jack the car up and can definatly turn the wheels with no problems, just heavy because the rear diff and driveshaft wheel is turning on the opposite side too.
so what do i do about that?
ask the garage owner for the test refund and you will take it somewhere that know what they are doing 
22 March 2010, 06:35 PM
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As above, sounds like the muppet factor 
ask them to jack up front and rear at the same time, support on stands and try with all wheels free to turn so they can check it again without fighting the LSD.
Mine failed recently too - for wrong colour headlights! Think they were probably right though
I'll remove my HID conversion for the retest...
ask them to jack up front and rear at the same time, support on stands and try with all wheels free to turn so they can check it again without fighting the LSD.Mine failed recently too - for wrong colour headlights! Think they were probably right though
I'll remove my HID conversion for the retest...
22 March 2010, 06:42 PM
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As above, sounds like the muppet factor ask them to jack up front and rear at the same time, support on stands and try with all wheels free to turn so they can check it again without fighting the LSD.
Mine failed recently too - for wrong colour headlights! Think they were probably right though I'll remove my HID conversion for the retest...
ask them to jack up front and rear at the same time, support on stands and try with all wheels free to turn so they can check it again without fighting the LSD.Mine failed recently too - for wrong colour headlights! Think they were probably right though
I'll remove my HID conversion for the retest...
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22 March 2010, 07:11 PM
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Wheel Bearings are checked by pushing/pulling at 12 and 6 o'clock ..... no real need to spin the wheels.
Go back and ask if they could NOT put the apprentice on the job this time .... kick off mate!
Go back and ask if they could NOT put the apprentice on the job this time .... kick off mate!
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i feel like it. its a joke because i garentee im going to have to take it somewhere else, i can tell by the way he was talking to me like i was lieing.
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What a crack head! The only reason he would have grounds to be concerned about the wheels not being able to turn would be due to brake faults. Bearings are only checked for play (left and right, up and down) Seriously, take it somewhere who does't employ the love child of Stevie Wonder and and Mr Bean.
22 March 2010, 10:18 PM
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Wrong
Wrong
MOT testers have to check for roughness in the bearing. This is done (strangely enough) by rotating the wheel!
The official line from VOSA...
"Rotate each wheel in turn and listen for any sound indicating roughness in the bearing"
If the tester can't spin the wheel freely because it's 4WD etc then it's not a reason to fail the car. Just in the same way that if the tester can't visually inspect the brakes because the car has a wheel trim fitted or can't inspect sill corrosion because the car has side skirts fitted. It's an advisory at best.
I find it interesting to hear the excuses and arguements that people come up with when their car has failed the test.
Examples..
"My mate down the pub said it would pass"
"I read on a forum that you don't have rotate the wheels to check bearings"
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Wrong
MOT testers have to check for roughness in the bearing. This is done (strangely enough) by rotating the wheel!
The official line from VOSA...
"Rotate each wheel in turn and listen for any sound indicating roughness in the bearing"
If the tester can't spin the wheel freely because it's 4WD etc then it's not a reason to fail the car. Just in the same way that if the tester can't visually inspect the brakes because the car has a wheel trim fitted or can't inspect sill corrosion because the car has side skirts fitted. It's an advisory at best.
I find it interesting to hear the excuses and arguements that people come up with when their car has failed the test.
Examples..
"My mate down the pub said it would pass"
"I read on a forum that you don't have rotate the wheels to check bearings"
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23 March 2010, 12:16 AM
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Wrong
Wrong
MOT testers have to check for roughness in the bearing. This is done (strangely enough) by rotating the wheel!
The official line from VOSA...
"Rotate each wheel in turn and listen for any sound indicating roughness in the bearing"
If the tester can't spin the wheel freely because it's 4WD etc then it's not a reason to fail the car. Just in the same way that if the tester can't visually inspect the brakes because the car has a wheel trim fitted or can't inspect sill corrosion because the car has side skirts fitted. It's an advisory at best.
I find it interesting to hear the excuses and arguements that people come up with when their car has failed the test.
Examples..
"My mate down the pub said it would pass"
"I read on a forum that you don't have rotate the wheels to check bearings"
Keyboard warrior MOT experts
Wrong
MOT testers have to check for roughness in the bearing. This is done (strangely enough) by rotating the wheel!
The official line from VOSA...
"Rotate each wheel in turn and listen for any sound indicating roughness in the bearing"
If the tester can't spin the wheel freely because it's 4WD etc then it's not a reason to fail the car. Just in the same way that if the tester can't visually inspect the brakes because the car has a wheel trim fitted or can't inspect sill corrosion because the car has side skirts fitted. It's an advisory at best.
I find it interesting to hear the excuses and arguements that people come up with when their car has failed the test.
Examples..
"My mate down the pub said it would pass"
"I read on a forum that you don't have rotate the wheels to check bearings"
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23 March 2010, 07:34 AM
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If he still insists of failing your car, Then print this out and show him.
He probably won't thank you for telling him how to do his job. But hey, If he did his job properly in the first place then you wouldn't have to.
Hope this helps...
23 March 2010, 08:02 AM
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Testers have always replaced my broken bulb there and then and charged a couple of quid for doing it.
Did he have the car up on a lift to test for the wheel bearings?
If unhappy with the failure and it ends up costing you extra for no reason then put in a VT17 form:
Problems with your MOT test or certificate : Directgov - Motoring
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