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hi guys and girls
does anyone know how much it would cost to make such a beast?
or has someone done it already? and where to go to get it done?
2.5 sti by the way

F1 CJE UK

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25K to do it with the best parts. check out RCMs web site

ssssss

25k on top of the car?

TonyBurns

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Did you think it was going to cost a couple of grand?

Tony

ssssss

no 2 hundred
i have done brakes, suspension 3" zaust etc
was thinking may be 10k for engine,turbo,fmic,clutch
no just me then

Budgie

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miss_scooby

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A friend of mine had a red v5 i think and I see his bill from warrior motorsport and total was £32000 and he was running 810bhp, so looking at about £15-20k

m@t STImulation

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check out scooby clinic packages 400bhp is not that dear think they have it in the 4-5k region

TonyBurns

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Have a word with Shaun and see how much his spec c cost him to get to 550bhp

Tony

bigarf

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beleive me getting to 400bhp is a far cry from 500bhp.unless you just want to whack the boost up and hope for the best.

Budgie

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its not as easy as you would think
first you need to find someone willing to do it
then you need them to give you a build spec
and a budget figure
mine was sold to me as a 500/500 track car built by TSL
it has never made more than 462/435
look me up on SIDC for full spec with prices
send a pm to fiestaboy on here, ex zen technician
i am sure he will be of help to you

ssssss

might have to lower my sights then

Shaun

A shedload of cash, but that is ALL in including development costs and throwing stuff away etc from the early conversion days. Also I used brand new parts including block and heads etc.

But assuming the Hawkeye is 2.5ltr (EU) than the costs would be considerably less.

The block would just need pistons, rods, bearings, bolts, gaskets, oil pump etc.

Heads could be left untouched saving an arm and a leg.

VERY rough estimate of costs for parts ONLY without VAT.

Turbo, standard fit £1500
Inlet Manifold Spacers £50
Fuel Injectors x 4 (minimal 800cc) £450
Adjustable Fuel Regulator £150
FMIC £1000
Oil Breather System £150
Dumpvalve £150
3 Port Boost Solenoid £150
Induction kit with Tracktive Induction Scoop £200
Baffled sump £500
Oil Cooler £500
External Bosch 044 fuel pump with Swirl Pot and aeroquip fittings £400
Headers £400
ECU (get rid of the MAF) £1000
Twin Plate Clutch £1000
Parallel Fuel Rails £200
Large inlet hose £200

£7500+LABOUR+VAT
£???? ENGINE BUILD

You can kiss good buy to £10k without even starting the engine build!

You can do things cheaply by missing off a number of the above mentioned ancillary items, but I would advise against doing that!

B0DSKI

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Best ask Dynamix

m@t STImulation

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we all wish we could get 500bhp but can you afford it dosent seem like he wants to spend that sort of money's

i want a 500bhp classic

stevie1982

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i have one but at the expense of the previous owner mr rawle,

i think shaun is right easy best part of 10k plus, clutch and flywheel say another 1k, plus all the smaller bits and bobs, £150 on a turbo inlet pipe, 100 on a fuel pressure regualtor etc etc the list goes on and on but i would of thought the real end bill will be close to £15k

Marx Mcrae

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Was having a quick flick through Banzai today, was good to see your car in all its glory

stevebt

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Its more money than what you would expect to pay and you can only stop costs from going into silly figures by doing a lot of the work yourself. Plus when you reach 500bhp there is the chase ffor even more power.

Budgie

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thanks but its in februarys' redline not banzai

stevebt

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People have spent more and people have spent less but if you budget for say £20k for a true 500 of each you should be ok

stevebt

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F1 CJE UK

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its a crazy amount but I have decided that keeping my wrx and buying normal road cars for day to day in the long run . It means you can have the best of both worlds mega power and great day to day car. Saves a load on fuel tax insurace and it makes you appreciate what you have .

Roger Clark Motorsport - RCM Product Detail

dynamix

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I have 550 on a hawkeye.

Why do you want over 500 .. no, seriously ?

400 is just perfect for the road and can be done at reasonable budget - going above 400 and you are looking at significant money, time, car off the road for periods, heartache, issues etc.

I love mine but it has been a journey and not one I would recommend unless you really 'need' over 500 bhp.

stevie1982

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i am sure there are hawkeye owners out there running the md321t on the std block but with supporting mods, fuel pump, injectors, induction kit, remap (simtec), clutch and flywheel i would of thought that would run around the 450/450 mark and could be done for around the 7-8k mark. speak to someone like API or similar and they will point you in the right direction

TimH

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Just checked my sums. Junking a 2l JDM engine and going for a custom built brand-new 2.5l with 500bhp in mind, including turbo, FMIC, injectors, turbo etc will have set me back £15k, assuming I sell parts not needed for the amounts hoped for. That includes labour and mapping.

stevie1982

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tim he already has the 2.5 block so thats 2.5k already back in the bank, if he decides not to forge the pistons, rods, and head studs (not advised but owners choice) thats going to be at a guess another 2.5k saved (parts+labour) the md321t is good for 450 and due to the 2.5 block would hope it to see 470lb which i think most would agree is close enough to what th op wanted. if it were me and he did not want to spend the money on forging i would go for one of the clinics SC range or RCM turbo aiming for mid 400's but have it mapped on the safe side to help protect the engine life span etc until funds allowed and the forged route was on the table then he can turn up the boost etc and get the most out of it.

Shaun

Stevie,
If the OP wants the engine not to **** itself when it is being mapped, let alone driven hard, they have NO choice but to at least change the pistons! Rod's would be alright with a limited rpm. Not what I would recommend though.

dynamix

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Indeed.

Sure it 'could' make 450/450 but not for long.

Stick at 400 Ish and you will have a car you can just drive and enjoy. A good exhaust, decent turbo, fuel pump, cold air induction, injectors and a remap of the STD ecu and it will do that.

I would budget for 15 to 20k ( or more ) to do 500+

stevie1982

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sorry guys thats what i meant when i said i would buy the 321t, sc or rcm and have it mapped to 400 so as and when the funds allowed to forge the bottom end it the op could turn thr boost up etc and run it to its capabilities, me i would not botherdoing it unless it was done properly as how did you put it shaun i would be too worried that the engine would
**** itslef.

stevebt

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I don't think he will bother going for that power figure now that he knows roughly what it will cost, if he does speaking from experience HE IS MAD