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Old 16 December 2009, 05:34 PM
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Default Rear wiper MOT Fail if no arm is present ?

me being heavy handed i snapped the rear wiper arm,was wondering if i removed the rest,broken part and just left the stub that the arm goes onto will this pass the MOT or fail ?

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Old 16 December 2009, 05:37 PM
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Fail ! If you had a bald tyre and took it off do you think it would fail !
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well,alot say its like the spare tyre,if its their,bald,fail,if its not present,no fail,so trying to find out for sure from people who know not just guess if its a fail or not,if no arm on the rear wiper motor,will it fail,as the mot doesnt specify a rear window mandatory etc etc
Old 16 December 2009, 05:43 PM
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Rear wipers ARE NOT tested on MOT,at the very most take the arm off.This is first hand experience not a rumour from a bloke in the pub!!

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yeah ^^^, its not a testable item.

neither is a spare wheel iirc
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if you get a jobs worth it will FAIL..
if there is a switch for it, it has to work...
"if you remove the front fogs and switch is present they have to work"
and jef if its got a spare it must be inflated and road legal..
best bet is to find a good garage that might put a advisery note for it...
when you mot a car never take chances.
as you will only get the arsehole that will fail it for anything..
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cheers for the input guys,seems its 60/40

i will try and get an arm for it but if not,will chance it without an arm,the guy is pretty sound,didnt fail me for the sun strip on my windscreen just verbally told me the front wipers encroched on it etc

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gc8r

is that right, i was a tester for 6 years and never knew that lol

nor have i ever seen it implemented

ud have to get a right w*nker to fail for that

however if its in the manual... its the law haha
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not trying to be funny mate.. . but some "mot"ers can be right pains(nice word)
mine will test everything..but is leanant on the c02 as i got a full decat system..
but some in my area have been failed,..
just depends what kind of day there having i guess...
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As a current tester i can tell you rear wiper is not a testable item.
Also front fogs are not testable either!
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cool,thats good enough for me then !

its a bit of pressure relief,booked MOT for monday,have done most of the stuff then i go and break the wiper arm,but now i know its not testable etc,i`ll leave it off if i dont find one.

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No probs, any other MOT questions just ask!
Good luck with the test!
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Originally Posted by dja80
As a current tester i can tell you rear wiper is not a testable item.
Also front fogs are not testable either!
that is correct as a single item, however is there not something in the book about a car being close to origional spec? or somethong along those lines which can be seen as a loophole to fail such items?

its been 5 years since ive been testing so its all a bit hazy lol
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The only thing i can think of that that statement refers to is the noise from the exhaust has to be not too loud for the vehicle!
Front fogs, rear wipers, spare wheels fitted or not are not testable
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I doubt any tester would fail it on these issues,an appeal by "customers" brings VOSA in,if they think there's dodgy dealings (failing deliberately, so the garage makes money on repairs etc) the tester loses his licence.The only time a (front) fog light would fail is if the lens was broke/smashed.
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I am also unfortunatly a mot tester and as dja80 said rear wiper, front fogs and spare wheel not part of mot if they try it on just ask them to show you in the manual.
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got my birds 2001 clio motd last year and rear wiper didnt work and he said if its there it has to work same as spoiler had a brake light init which didnt work either so failed it for that tae so rather than fu* about arguing with him i took it home took the rear wiper out and put black tape over the light on spoiler whick took me 5 mins wen i went back it passed whether he was just being a dick or not wasnt gona give him the oppertunity to find suhin else to fail it with mibee he was having a bad day as i new he was being a ar**hole
Old 17 December 2009, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by bodgeit
I doubt any tester would fail it on these issues,an appeal by "customers" brings VOSA in,if they think there's dodgy dealings (failing deliberately, so the garage makes money on repairs etc) the tester loses his licence.The only time a (front) fog light would fail is if the lens was broke/smashed.

My old sport never failed an MOT on the 1/2 hole on the front near side fog. Light worked though.
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My 1995 WRX went through 4 MOT's with a knackered split rubber on the rear wiper as I couldn't get a replacement anywhere. They are not listed in Halfords or anywhere like that as the UK spec doesn't have a rear wiper. The wagon wiper is longer. In the end I went in with the wiper in hand and found one that looked the same - early 80's Toyota Carina if I rember correctly.

As for fogs, mine aren't there because of the FMIC pipes, so has covers. Never been mentioned to me at MOT time.
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there are a few get arounds with an mot. ie a baby seat in the car then that specific seat cant be tested so you can get around the seatbelt issue if you had one. if you had a crack in your windscreen then take it out and they cant fail it. (cant do you for not having one). this are old mind. but im sure if you dont have a rear wiper then they cant test it. why dont you just buy a small cheap little cap and remove the whole thing? would be easier
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i'm a tester and front fogs not part of test at worse should get an advisory for the broken glass.
the rear wiper also is not part of test again should just be an advisory if ther's a prob with it
spare wheel is not testable the tester should only look for corrosion when looking in the boot area if no spare there or a bald punctured one is present with a broken jack etc it wouldn't matter the worst is they should advise on it.
high level brake light would not be a fail if not working also if you have tailights that consist of two bulbs each side as long as 50% or more is working on either side it would pass and be advised on.
you'd be amazed what is classed as none fail just advise in the mot handbook for testers some of it doesn't bare thinking about!!! i passed and became a tester 3 months ago

no windscreen would deffo fail mate!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by gc8-r
if you get a jobs worth it will FAIL..
if there is a switch for it, it has to work...
"if you remove the front fogs and switch is present they have to work"
and jef if its got a spare it must be inflated and road legal..
best bet is to find a good garage that might put a advisery note for it...
when you mot a car never take chances.
as you will only get the arsehole that will fail it for anything..
chris
This is just pure lies or you have been massively misinformed.
Old 21 December 2009, 11:18 PM
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Well,she passed woop woop

the funny thing was as i have a sports CAT he said he didnt know what to put it through as so tested the emmisions as a Non cat`d car it passed, the max limit was 3.5 CO and mine is 1.4 and Hydro carbons of 1200 i think

so all good

not sure what the readings are meant to be for a 95 classic with standard cat but im happy and glad he was flexible in his listing of my car on the system for the emmisions,bless him :-)

cheers
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