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Old 17 October 2009, 08:53 PM
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Default 2.5 WRX disappointing. Does PPP totally transform?

Today I had my first drive of an Impreza - a good looking 2.5WRX wagon from MKG3000 or twickenham Subaru (nice guys). Decided I could just about live with the cloth seats so took it out for a spin with a view to buying and remapping etc to 280ish.

What a let down. The car sounded, well it didn't really sound of anything -you would be hard pushed to tell it was a boxer engine at all. Incredibly smooth and quiet and ultimately not very exciting at all, even putting my foot down it didn't feel that quick. Gearbox on the notchy side too. Great driving position for a shortarse like me though. They said a PPP pack would totally transform it but I wasn't sure and it's a bit of a gamble. Need to drive an Sti now to see what that's like or one with PPP done or older 2.0 with PPP.

Anyone else find the standard 2.5 bland? Is the 2.0 a bit rawer?
Old 17 October 2009, 09:06 PM
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it needs a turbo
Old 17 October 2009, 09:13 PM
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Add a secondhand PPP backbox for £100 and a dersonated center pipe for £75 and the burble will be back! They are quick but just done seem it as standard like you say are so quiet, if you want more power though go for an STI
Old 17 October 2009, 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by rampant onion head
it needs a turbo
You mong, its a WRX
Old 17 October 2009, 09:48 PM
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get a 3" sport cat miltec exhaust put on it sounds the nuts
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Take the sti out for a test drive mate you will really feel the difference, don't buy the wrx on the strength of having to get a re map or ppp. If you really want a powerful scoob the sti is what you need in your life
I bought my Spec D from MKG3000 I think the sales man was called Craig nice bunch of guys, had a good deal as well so make sure you have a bit of a haggle
Old 17 October 2009, 09:53 PM
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my 06 wrx has 298bhp and 367ftlb torque from full decat, remap and fuel pump. 2 seperate dynos both gave similar figures

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Old 17 October 2009, 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by RAPID STI
You mong, its a WRX
, but harsh, it was his first post
Old 17 October 2009, 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by greatgonzo
Take the sti out for a test drive mate you will really feel the difference, don't buy the wrx on the strength of having to get a re map or ppp. If you really want a powerful scoob the sti is what you need in your life
I bought my Spec D from MKG3000 I think the sales man was called Craig nice bunch of guys, had a good deal as well so make sure you have a bit of a haggle
+ 1 , try an STI, haggle well for one with ppp, and it will be under warranty
Old 17 October 2009, 10:43 PM
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a hawkeye wrx with the right mods will still be cheaper to run than an sti and alot quicker as i have said on another post 340/350 0-100 in 10.4 2006 with porsche brakes whiteline everything 22thousand miles for 10k
you cant buy an sti for that
Old 17 October 2009, 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by ssssss
a hawkeye wrx with the right mods will still be cheaper to run than an sti and alot quicker as i have said on another post 340/350 0-100 in 10.4 2006 with porsche brakes whiteline everything 22thousand miles for 10k
you cant buy an sti for that
also no need to change gears like a madman. foot down any gear and the torque pulls like a train
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Is an sti that much more to run
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Originally Posted by greatgonzo
Is an sti that much more to run
neither is going to be handy,just before i sold my 06 sti i was putting £80/90 and sometimes more a week in.then you have the big tax,insurance etc.now running costs are aprox half'ed with my a4,only thing that costs more is servicing with audi!
then you can't help not getting it tuned,when you start you wouldn't see a grand or two being spent pretty quick! there's a lot to think about when buying a scooby plus lets face it real world if your not running big turbo's etc quite a few hatches will give you a good run for your money.
Old 18 October 2009, 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by bpm1588
neither is going to be handy,just before i sold my 06 sti i was putting £80/90 and sometimes more a week in.then you have the big tax,insurance etc.now running costs are aprox half'ed with my a4,only thing that costs more is servicing with audi!
then you can't help not getting it tuned,when you start you wouldn't see a grand or two being spent pretty quick! there's a lot to think about when buying a scooby plus lets face it real world if your not running big turbo's etc quite a few hatches will give you a good run for your money.
fair play, i hate to admit it but there is a lot of quick- small cars out there nowadays and for the sake of a second or so 0-60, on public roads it is not a lot of distance at all. thing is though, same goes for your man that buys a porsche or whatever for twice the price of a scooby, that puts a smile on my face as well when he cant "get away" either, all about preference at the end of the day, look at all the classic car collectors, they pay ridiculous amounts for what they WANT, and dont even fookin drive them
Old 18 October 2009, 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by hughes741
also no need to change gears like a madman. foot down any gear and the torque pulls like a train
deffo, pulls really well de cat and re map and it will be a very different car. will eat a normal sti without ppp as its 100kg less and a little more power.

a rear 22 anti roll bar will make the car drive a lot better. jobs done enjoy
Old 18 October 2009, 06:38 PM
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2.5 WRX disappointing. Does PPP totally transform?
PPP, better yes, totally transform no.

2.5 wrx is a more refined scoob to drive than the 2.0. IMHO the Drive by Wire throttle can make it feel detached though. If you look at the speedo you are shifting but it just doesn't feel like it. The 2.5 STi is no different and still requires tweaking to make it feel more like you expect it to. The 2.5 is a far better proposition than the 2lt wrx, very easy to tweak to good numbers and loads of torque. Don't get all short bloke syndrome about the STi though, it is a better car than the WRX and worth the extra cash if you have it. The very same mods on an STi take it well into the 300's for bhp and torque which will keep you happy for sometime.
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Totally agree with the above, well said
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Originally Posted by greatgonzo
Take the sti out for a test drive mate you will really feel the difference, don't buy the wrx on the strength of having to get a re map or ppp. If you really want a powerful scoob the sti is what you need in your life
I bought my Spec D from MKG3000 I think the sales man was called Craig nice bunch of guys, had a good deal as well so make sure you have a bit of a haggle
wrx 2.5l 346/ 358 what you on about
Old 19 October 2009, 07:30 AM
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I bought my sti from mgk3000 in twickenham they are a good bunch there, as for which model to get, if you buy a wrx every time you see an sti you will wish you had one, so do yourself a favour and go for the sti you wont regret it, your local subaru owners club is Home of the Surrey Subaru Club! get yourself registered on there, they are very friendly and a great bunch of people, you will get good sound help and advice on all things subaru from them, I'm registered as Danny on Surreyscoobies i look forward to seeing you over there, and good luck with the car hunt.

regards

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Originally Posted by kb1
wrx 2.5l 346/ 358 what you on about
**** me they've up'd the OEM output
Old 20 October 2009, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by 53WRX
**** me they've up'd the OEM output
mapped by jgm 346/358 rolling road tested by a1 autos 352/359
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You changed to a VF43 or other ?
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Originally Posted by 53WRX
You changed to a VF43 or other ?
vf34
7 plugs
hyperflow tmic
3 port boost
harvey smith ported up-pipe
hyperflow induction
viper turbo intake
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Nice !
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hows the gearbox doing
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Originally Posted by kb1
vf34
7 plugs
hyperflow tmic
3 port boost
harvey smith ported up-pipe
hyperflow induction
viper turbo intake
i can only get 4 in mine, no wonder your making good numbers with 3 extra pistons
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Originally Posted by F1 CJE UK
hows the gearbox doing
fine thankyou
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