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Old 17 September 2009, 07:46 PM
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Default How much to buy a 500 bhp sorted Hawkeye?

Just wondering what peoples opinion are on second hand price range of something such as:

Hawkeye Sti that has been prepared by a reputable tuner & is running a reliable 500bhp. So bigger turbo & uprated engine internals & all supporting mods. Also includng mods such as big brakes; uprated suspension; etc etc.

So basically buying one that someone has already done above mods on & was for sale. Not "how much does above cost to do if you do it youself". Any ideas?
Old 17 September 2009, 08:02 PM
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probably quite a bit at a guess, most people end up breaking them in the end because they would get more for it.

I will have spent in excess of £17k on my 2001 Impreza once my engine is finished later this year.

I would be wanting £10k for that, doubt I'd get it though

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Old 17 September 2009, 08:07 PM
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next year i plan on taking my hawkeye to 500 with rcm and its going to be more than the cost of a new sti. dont think you will find many well modded hawkeye that people would want to sell
Old 17 September 2009, 08:11 PM
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I think your both spot on.
Anyone that has one will rather take the parts off & sell seperately than lose a shedload trying to sell as is. Also there are'nt really many out there that are going to be sold on the market.
Old 17 September 2009, 08:24 PM
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But as a guess...

Low mileage immaculate 2006 Hawkeye STI = £14k

Value of mods... who knows but you would never get it all back anyway, so estimate of around £6-£8k secondhand. So in theory you are looking at around £20-£22k. You could argue more but you would struggle getting that much which is why they get returned to standard.
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I wonder if such a car would come up for sale at approx £20k to £25k? If it did I would be very tempted to maybe chop mine in for it?
Old 17 September 2009, 08:42 PM
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I must admit, it is exciting building your engine to that sort of spec

Mines been off the road 6 months now so not long left to go.

Might be worth going down that route with yours? would mean loosing your car for a bit though.

I could have had mine sooner but I would have ended up owing money to credit cards etc.
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yep me to better going slow and paying for it rather than paying on credit or going cheap and paying in the long run

is your spec c not a hawkeye ?
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wish I could have afforded a spec c mate, mines just a bug wrx
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I have some mods and I am currently running a genuine 500+Bhp and to have the top boys build it is very expensive, and worth every penny

https://www.scoobynet.com/projects-4...p1-600bhp.html
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It is expensive but worth every penny

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Originally Posted by rickya
I wonder if such a car would come up for sale at approx £20k to £25k? If it did I would be very tempted to maybe chop mine in for it?
You would need to know alot more about the car other than it has 500bhp, is a Hawkeye and has other bolt on parts, to be able to make a judgement on price. You could be getting yourself in to all sorts of pain, buying a potential money drain!

Personally, a car that has been used on track, but very well maintained with documented reliability, is worth a lot more in my eyes than say a fresh build that is only used at weekends.
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Wise words from experienced scoobynutters!

Hats off to all of you guys for having the ***** & determination to do it

I think I may one day end up going down the same expensive road!!
Old 17 September 2009, 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by rickya
I think I may one day end up going down the same expensive road!!
Don't bother!!!

Unless you are a serial modder (or is that murderer) and have pocketfulls of cash to blow and endless enerygy.
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Originally Posted by Mikkel
But as a guess...

Low mileage immaculate 2006 Hawkeye STI = £14k

Value of mods... who knows but you would never get it all back anyway, so estimate of around £6-£8k secondhand. So in theory you are looking at around £20-£22k. You could argue more but you would struggle getting that much which is why they get returned to standard.
My car is for sale and has had many of the mods done, ie defis, Andy forrest remap, performance friction just to name a few, 2006 28k on clock etc.

I am looking for £14k and not had one person intrested so i think mods personally unless its the right person scare people off.

Mac
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The guys are right in what they say but don't let it put you off a serious mod.

If you give up at say 400 and then sell it you will waste your money.

If you reach 500 and the car is set up accordingly, believe me you wont ever want to sell it, so if you have the dollar it wont be wasted.
Been there, done it.
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Originally Posted by bluenosewrx
My car is for sale and has had many of the mods done, ie defis, Andy forrest remap, performance friction just to name a few, 2006 28k on clock etc.

I am looking for £14k and not had one person intrested so i think mods personally unless its the right person scare people off.

Mac
Goes without saying really. A specialised car requires a very specific audience.

My car was up recently for just under £15k. similar to yours by the sounds of things with a few less miles. I had loads of part ex and swap offers but cash buyers were few and far between. Decided to keep it
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Originally Posted by Mikkel
Goes without saying really. A specialised car requires a very specific audience.

My car was up recently for just under £15k. similar to yours by the sounds of things with a few less miles. I had loads of part ex and swap offers but cash buyers were few and far between. Decided to keep it
I am trying to get a Foz STi, but prob in the same boat, i will not let it go for peanuts, have no prob keeping it either.

loks like thats what i will be doing ,lol

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modifications certainly dont scare people off in my view, if they are a known quantity and the vehicle is known and a good un.

I have had four, firm cash offers on mine made over the past month, and have not even advertised the. Mine is modified more than most.
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These cars do come for sale every now and again....

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a nice type 25 ,with nice reliabilty and resale value
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Originally Posted by dynamix
These cars do come for sale every now and again....
this a hint duncan?
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Originally Posted by EJ22 LAD
this a hint duncan?
Isnt everything for sale for the right money ?
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Originally Posted by dynamix
These cars do come for sale every now and again....

Yup everyone has thier price I was someone had a coplete car that I could of bought as looking back now its a complete waste of cash when you add it up and you still add more
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Must be the way to go if/when people are thinking of modding a Scoob.

Whilst the owner will have shelled out squillions to get 500bhp my view is that you'll only get back a few £k over the odds of a standard car ie if you've spent £10k you may get £2k back, if you've spent £20k then perhaps you'll get back £5k etc. I guess that's why most get broken for parts, shame really although you can never recover the labour cost

TX.

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TX,
It also has a lot to do with who wants to buy and the "specific" car in question. Some will fetch more than others, just because of the car itself and history associated with it.

I was offered £25k for mine last year.... I nearly took it, but then **** my pants! If I was offered this again right here, right now, I still wouldn't sell it for that at the moment.
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Budgie bought his ready done. Not sure how much he paid for it but it was up at £23kish at the time of purchase. Think he's had it about 2 years.
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To be fair, I think when you're contemplating that level (500+), you need to intend to keep the car; as you'll lose your shirt if you sell it, or incur a load of hassle if you break the car for parts. Consequently, I don't think many good uns come up for sale. If they do; it's a case of how long is a piece of string. I've seen seriously modified cars (read 15k+ spent in mods) go for a mere few thousand over what a standard counterpart would be worth.

A reliable Circa 400 bhp, which would be very nice on the road, is much more attainable these days and if you're not sure you want to keep the car long term, this would be the level to stop at for most.

If you have the money though, go for it!

All IMHO
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Originally Posted by New_scooby_04
I've seen seriously modified cars (read 15k+ spent in mods) go for a mere few thousand over what a standard counterpart would be worth.

A reliable Circa 400 bhp, which would be very nice on the road, is much more attainable these days and if you're not sure you want to keep the car long term, this would be the level to stop at for most.

If you have the money though, go for it!

All IMHO
£15K????? and then some mate. some of these fellas on here have maybe spent 60 -80K in development costs. you are right though. over 500bhp you have something special. i will never sell my scoob now. far too much money invested in it and you would never get the money back even if you sold the parts.

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bit more than 500 and in your rice range

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