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Old 27 June 2009, 06:17 AM
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I got my heart set on afterburner back box and decat pipe....but a part of me enjoys the point of keeping motor standard..gives it bit of cred. Only reason I wanted change is that I own MY06 STI 2.5 and it isn't as burbly as previous versions.........decisions...decisions..???
Old 27 June 2009, 08:20 AM
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personnaly i dont think you can beat the nice noise of the scooby, everyone hears a scoob and they know straight away and start looking for it, i just had to get a new back box for my classic i went to exhaustuk they built a cobra back box to the car as they were fitting it, it took over an hour but it sounds fantastic, i believe they'll build it to the sound you want, i dont think a scooby is the same when it's quiet.
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Don't bother with the decat pipe if you are keeping it standard. Just get a Blitz NurSpec 'S' to release some quality burble. Afterburners are nice, but the Blitz has more class from a build and fitment point of view. Awesome build quality and the pipe sits flush like the OEM box rather than poking out like the ABurner.

http://www.youtube.com/user/53WRX#pl.../0/v7Lj4SZiDjI
Old 27 June 2009, 10:33 AM
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I wouldn't worry about the decat pipe. I changed the back box and resonated pipe (the bit joined to the back box) for an afterburner and it sounds awesome. A scooby aint a scooby without the burble!!. I found mine way to quiet as standard.
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lucky scoob..... is that the decat center section + vortex as advertised on scoobyworld mate.......?

also tempted by the blitz...was the blitz just the back box??

Also, while we r on the subject did anyone inform the insurance company of the change???

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Originally Posted by 53WRX
Don't bother with the decat pipe if you are keeping it standard. Just get a Blitz NurSpec 'S' to release some quality burble.Afterburners are nice, but the Blitz has more class from a build and fitment point of view. Awesome build quality and the pipe sits flush like the OEM box rather than poking out like the ABurner.
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also tempted by the blitz...was the blitz just the back box??

Also, while we r on the subject did anyone inform the insurance company of the change???

Ta
NurSpec 'S' is just the back box which does fit neatly under your bumper.





It's best to inform your insurance. If you are rear ended they will only pay out for a standard back box if you haven't told them any different.
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eric will just the blitz 's' backbox give a decent enough burble on a 2.5L?
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i have the STI Genome backbox forsale..looks,sounds the bollox
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Originally Posted by radius
eric will just the blitz 's' backbox give a decent enough burble on a 2.5L?
Should do but if you want more you can easily change the centre section. Sound is down to individual taste, what is decent to you may be too quiet or too loud to someone else.

Blitz do the back box & centre section as a kit called the Blitz NurSpec 'R' which also comes with a handy bung to quieten things down on a "hungover" day.



Be aware that the SpecS back box doesn't fit the SpecR centre section so if you get the S & then decide you want more you will have to get a different make of centre.

BLITZ sound clip This will be more than you are planning as it has a Perrin down pipe & STi up pipe. But who knows, once you get used to the sound you may want more.
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eric I was warned off the spec r as was told it was nutter bast$rd loud....heard a couple of clips on you tube quite like it.....
Bit pricey mind, afterburner plus centre section about a ton cheaper...
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'S' is just right mate.
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even on a 2.5L?....heard the afterburner was one to go for...
Just dont wanna get one and be disappointed...think quietness of 2.5 is mainly down to **** backbox rather than centre pipe??
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Originally Posted by radius
eric I was warned off the spec r as was told it was nutter bast$rd loud....heard a couple of clips on you tube quite like it.....
Bit pricey mind, afterburner plus centre section about a ton cheaper...
Exhaust noise is a bit like power.

You start off thinking it's enough but get used to it & want more.

I started with the standard exhaust with a Prodrive back box. I got used to it & wanted more power so decated & remapped keeping the same back box. I got used to the noise & fitted the S. I got a bung to be on the safe side but have never felt the need to use it.

As Stu (53WRX) says the S back box on it's own is just right. I know people that bought both the Afterburner & the Ninja back box & have all changed to the Blitz with no regrets. Quality wise you won't beat the Blitz which is why it is at a premium price. Again I know of people that have had issues with fit & loose baffles etc who went for cheaper options.

My thinking is "Do it right" "Do it once". I wouldn't want to water down the finish that has taken a lot of time & money to get to a certain level on my car.



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looks the bollocks mate..
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just fitted the nurspec r to mine today, loud but sounds amazin. its like thunder
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YouTube - 53WRX's Channel

My NurSpec S on a 2.5 STi.
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is that a recommendation then powerwrx???
Old 27 June 2009, 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by radius
looks the bollocks mate..
Thank you. It's been a labour of love since 2003. I won SIDC Modified Live 2008 Best of Show with it which kind of makes it all worthwhile.

Originally Posted by powerwrx
just fitted the nurspec r to mine today, loud but sounds amazin. its like thunder
Tell me the hairs on the back of your neck didn't twitch just a little bit when you first fired it up. I know mine did.

I haven't put the face back on my ICE since either as I know I won't want to listen to anything else.

On the downside my fuel consumption has crept up as I tend to hold the revs through the gears a bit more now.
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Originally Posted by 53WRX
YouTube - 53WRX's Channel

My NurSpec S on a 2.5 STi.
I see you have a work safe version Stu.
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POWERWRX...where did u get it from buddy???
Do NOT know how im gonna hide the price from missus...never mind the thunder...lol
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Originally Posted by radius
POWERWRX...where did u get it from buddy???
Do NOT know how im gonna hide the price from missus...never mind the thunder...lol
The thunder will come when she finds out the price mate.

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How does the Ninja2 compare to the Blitz?
Any difference in quality and performance...or just louder and more expensive?
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Originally Posted by ESGN
How does the Ninja2 compare to the Blitz?
Any difference in quality and performance...or just louder and more expensive?
I have never had a Ninja2 but I know of at least one owner who changed his for the Blitz.

Quality wise the welds don't look so tidy on the Ninja & the two rear support brackets appear to be just tacked on with quite a short blob of weld & only use a single rod. If the bits you can see are like this I would be concerned about the bits I couldn't see.



The Blitz has the brackets substantially mounted with doubled up rods and a good length of weld along each.



The welds on the Blitz are a work of art especially where the tail joins the main part.



Like I said "Do it right" "Do it once". Fit & forget but at a price. All IMHO.
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What would just de-resonating the rear pipe on the 2.5 and leaving the Prodrive back box in place sound like?

Or the Nur Spec S with a de-resonated rear pipe?

Early start/neighbour friendly!
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point taken....now i need to find that credit card...!!!

Thanx for yr input mate.

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Ninja also has a 2.5" bore to a 2.5" flange, where as the Blitz has a 3" bore to a 2.5" flange. Which is, in a nut shell and build quality aside, why it sounds deeper and of superior quality.
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Originally Posted by IggyRB320
What would just de-resonating the rear pipe on the 2.5 and leaving the Prodrive back box in place sound like?

Or the Nur Spec S with a de-resonated rear pipe?

Early start/neighbour friendly!
I had a de-resonated rear pipe & Prodrive back box to start with & to be honest it was a bit louder/deeper on tick over but not all that much. The big increase came with the Blitz.

Originally Posted by radius
point taken....now i need to find that credit card...!!!

Thanx for yr input mate.

Conrad
No problem Conrad. Good luck with the missus.

And if the it will always be easy to sell a Blitz here or on ebay.
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Originally Posted by radius
lucky scoob..... is that the decat center section + vortex as advertised on scoobyworld mate.......?

also tempted by the blitz...was the blitz just the back box??

Also, while we r on the subject did anyone inform the insurance company of the change???

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Yes mate. And, yes I did inform the insurace company, and it made a difference of about £30, but worth it IMO.
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So if i decided to go for afturburner packager or the blitz...would i need to bother with remap or anything else..Ive heard mixed views on the forums....

Thanks guys,

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Originally Posted by radius
even on a 2.5L?....heard the afterburner was one to go for...
Just dont wanna get one and be disappointed...think quietness of 2.5 is mainly down to **** backbox rather than centre pipe??
its both, trust me


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