Racist Comments on ScoobyNet
03 March 2002, 09:33 AM
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This message is aimed at a TINY minority. In fact the only reason it deserves a post is because of the seriousness of the subject.
ScoobyNet will NOT tolerate racist comments. The members in general will not tolerate it either, which is displayed in any topic that someone posts a racist comment.
No matter how innocent or "jokey" the comment may be, this medium is a black and white text only medium where thousands of people may view your comments. Whilst I am sure there is no malice intended, the potential offence to individuals is real.
Continued posting of racist comments will result in being banned from scoobynet, and / or potentially more serious action being taken.
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This message is aimed at a TINY minority. In fact the only reason it deserves a post is because of the seriousness of the subject.
ScoobyNet will NOT tolerate racist comments. The members in general will not tolerate it either, which is displayed in any topic that someone posts a racist comment.
No matter how innocent or "jokey" the comment may be, this medium is a black and white text only medium where thousands of people may view your comments. Whilst I am sure there is no malice intended, the potential offence to individuals is real.
Continued posting of racist comments will result in being banned from scoobynet, and / or potentially more serious action being taken.
Regards
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03 March 2002, 09:49 AM
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Ban straight away anyone who makes even one racist comment.
Maybe let them make a case for appeal.
Think that should be the way.
Agree with the statement apart from that.
cheers
steve
Maybe let them make a case for appeal.
Think that should be the way.
Agree with the statement apart from that.
cheers
steve
03 March 2002, 10:34 AM
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I fully support the Webmasters approach on this.
As a lot of people on here are friends off the board, some comments could easily be made which don't offend the two parties involved - but would offend a 3rd Party who was not in on the joke.
So lets not go an a which hunt just yet.
As a lot of people on here are friends off the board, some comments could easily be made which don't offend the two parties involved - but would offend a 3rd Party who was not in on the joke.
So lets not go an a which hunt just yet.
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03 March 2002, 11:33 AM
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Her her. Simply no place.
Scooby net is (imho) a place for people to share intellectual, some times humorous issues. have learned allot form the may obviously intelligent people.
Racism in itself simply shows a lack of understanding of anything outside there small secluded safe little world.
Being welsh and living n England, you slowly get sick of the humorous sheep jokes, very funny yeh right.
Ban em
Scooby net is (imho) a place for people to share intellectual, some times humorous issues. have learned allot form the may obviously intelligent people.
Racism in itself simply shows a lack of understanding of anything outside there small secluded safe little world.
Being welsh and living n England, you slowly get sick of the humorous sheep jokes, very funny yeh right.
Ban em
03 March 2002, 11:44 AM
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Iv`e read your comments with interest. I have been reading Scoobynet for quite a time and personally have not yet experienced any racial comments that either myself or any minority group could take offence at. What I do find objectionable is comments made by morons such as the likes of Imatrucka!.
This person really pisses me off!
Every thread I read appears to have some inane comment or remark from him.
He must be the epitome of an ageing boy racer with nothing better to occupy his time than to make some benign comment on, and all that is written on this net.
Not once have I seen a thread from him that has been either constuctive or to contain any content worth reading, and almost without exception should be destined for the trash can!.
I have never in the past criticised anyone publicly, because I strongly believe that everyone is entitled to his/her opinion and be able to voice it.
Unfortunately prats such as he abuses the privalige on every occasion and his benign comments are neither amusing or of interest, moreso they are of no substance, and are about as gripping as the instructions for use on a fire extinguisher and about as exciting as a comment from the wife as too "shall we go for a jolly good walk".
It is a pity that he is not a woman that could be subjected to the occasional beating such as one would a gong with the forlorn hope that this would lead to the occasional bouts of protracted silence.
Wait for it chaps...it`s going to come!
Bob
This person really pisses me off!
Every thread I read appears to have some inane comment or remark from him.
He must be the epitome of an ageing boy racer with nothing better to occupy his time than to make some benign comment on, and all that is written on this net.
Not once have I seen a thread from him that has been either constuctive or to contain any content worth reading, and almost without exception should be destined for the trash can!.
I have never in the past criticised anyone publicly, because I strongly believe that everyone is entitled to his/her opinion and be able to voice it.
Unfortunately prats such as he abuses the privalige on every occasion and his benign comments are neither amusing or of interest, moreso they are of no substance, and are about as gripping as the instructions for use on a fire extinguisher and about as exciting as a comment from the wife as too "shall we go for a jolly good walk".
It is a pity that he is not a woman that could be subjected to the occasional beating such as one would a gong with the forlorn hope that this would lead to the occasional bouts of protracted silence.
Wait for it chaps...it`s going to come!
Bob
03 March 2002, 11:59 AM
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Active, I think you are being imatrukahsist, and strickly speaking you should be banned.
Simon, I agree with you that racism is a bad thing, but I think it would be wrong to delete and ban.
People always go on about freedom of speach, and although this time it works against us, you have to draw a line somewhere.
Being jewish, I have seen my fair share of racism, and in the past have been disgusted to see full page adverts in reputable magazines dedicated to the national front, with captions offering proof that the jews made up the holocaust to gain sympathy votes. It hurt to see this in print having lost family in the holocaust, but unfortunately our society gives people this right.
We dont always like it, but it works both ways. In orer to censor someone has to decide what is right and wrong, and this to me can be even worse.
I would rather be shown that such people exist and learn to rise above/decide for myself what I believe.
Simon, I agree with you that racism is a bad thing, but I think it would be wrong to delete and ban.
People always go on about freedom of speach, and although this time it works against us, you have to draw a line somewhere.
Being jewish, I have seen my fair share of racism, and in the past have been disgusted to see full page adverts in reputable magazines dedicated to the national front, with captions offering proof that the jews made up the holocaust to gain sympathy votes. It hurt to see this in print having lost family in the holocaust, but unfortunately our society gives people this right.
We dont always like it, but it works both ways. In orer to censor someone has to decide what is right and wrong, and this to me can be even worse.
I would rather be shown that such people exist and learn to rise above/decide for myself what I believe.
03 March 2002, 11:59 AM
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Simon,
What exactly are the implications here - are you (the BBS) at risk from prosecution or something. I have not seen the comments in question but for me, on the face of it - it`s an interesting comparison to all the comments related to excessive speed; irresponsible behaviour; excessive`implied` bad language....
I know that Subaru dealers view us and consider the warranty implications of our admissions; may be the police do as well and wait around a local corner..will we be banned by admissions here ?
Membership.....no thanks
[Edited by jamesa - 3/3/2002 12:03:48 PM]
What exactly are the implications here - are you (the BBS) at risk from prosecution or something. I have not seen the comments in question but for me, on the face of it - it`s an interesting comparison to all the comments related to excessive speed; irresponsible behaviour; excessive`implied` bad language....
I know that Subaru dealers view us and consider the warranty implications of our admissions; may be the police do as well and wait around a local corner..will we be banned by admissions here ?
Membership.....no thanks
[Edited by jamesa - 3/3/2002 12:03:48 PM]
03 March 2002, 12:44 PM
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Mr FOOTLONG RACISM COMMENTS: "Is Alberick a close relation by any chance? Bad clone? Liberated from a farm perhaps? The mind boggles.....
Where are all of you silly people coming from. Most of the time we all get along and have constructive conversations. We like our litle world on here."
Where are all of you silly people coming from. Most of the time we all get along and have constructive conversations. We like our litle world on here."
03 March 2002, 12:46 PM
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How on earth can that be construed as racist????? 
. Come up with some thing better please.
Doh, doh, typo
[Edited by Mr Footlong - 3/3/2002 12:56:25 PM]
. Come up with some thing better please.Doh, doh, typo
[Edited by Mr Footlong - 3/3/2002 12:56:25 PM]
03 March 2002, 12:49 PM
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Dude, you are so clutching at straws......
Why are you so set on making an issue of something that was never mentioned?
Still waiting.
Please just let the rest of us get on with enjoying our day.....
Why are you so set on making an issue of something that was never mentioned?
Still waiting.
Please just let the rest of us get on with enjoying our day.....
03 March 2002, 01:27 PM
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So start with banning Mr. R19KET, who said a 100 percent racist comment like "Some friends of mine are working and living in Luxembourg and his assessment of the locals are correct".
It is quite easy to understand what he wants to say with that. This IS a racist comment.
If this guy is not banned from the board NOW, then I have to believe that you actually support racism!
It is quite easy to understand what he wants to say with that. This IS a racist comment.
If this guy is not banned from the board NOW, then I have to believe that you actually support racism!
03 March 2002, 01:51 PM
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Alberick... may I STRONGLY suggest you immediately apologize towards Mark ?
I don't care where you live, but I DO know that Luxemburg has some very fine schools, and may I suggest trying to learn to READ.
You sir are a disgrace to Luxemburg.
Apologies to Mark NOW !
Theo
[Edited by EvilBevel - 3/3/2002 1:53:20 PM]
I don't care where you live, but I DO know that Luxemburg has some very fine schools, and may I suggest trying to learn to READ.
You sir are a disgrace to Luxemburg.
Apologies to Mark NOW !
Theo
[Edited by EvilBevel - 3/3/2002 1:53:20 PM]
03 March 2002, 03:26 PM
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Theo,
Thanks, but I've been called worse, by better people.
This is a good example of a "blinkered" attitude. No interest in any other opinions, other than there own.....to the point where they don't even bother to read the posts correctly.
Anyway, where is Luxemberg, or even Belgium
Mark.
Thanks, but I've been called worse, by better people.
This is a good example of a "blinkered" attitude. No interest in any other opinions, other than there own.....to the point where they don't even bother to read the posts correctly.
Anyway, where is Luxemberg, or even Belgium
Mark.
03 March 2002, 03:51 PM
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Chips. Chips, chips anyone?
I agree totally that racism of any form should lead to the poster being banned.
However, how do you propose to draw the line of what is and what isn't - a couple of people on here are quite obviously so insecure or suffering from some sort of complexes that they misinterpret comments or turn them around to try and make it seem racist.
That is ridiculous (not the racism)
Who will moderate this?
I agree totally that racism of any form should lead to the poster being banned.
However, how do you propose to draw the line of what is and what isn't - a couple of people on here are quite obviously so insecure or suffering from some sort of complexes that they misinterpret comments or turn them around to try and make it seem racist.
That is ridiculous (not the racism)
Who will moderate this?
03 March 2002, 04:02 PM
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Aliases as well are ****, now please now stupid comments but are 370 beast and Alberick not the same person?? As it appears where ever one is so is the other defending the other.
Apologies for the SP
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03 March 2002, 04:21 PM
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Totally agree that all forms of racism are wrong. However there needs to be common sense form everyone. My college’s daughter was suspended from school for saying she couldn't see the blackboard. WTF is that all about? Should Bush rename the White House? Should we ban all the Englishman, Irishman and a Scotsman jokes ?
David
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03 March 2002, 04:41 PM
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Rasicm-Racists...... The 2 things I hate after "Kiddy fiddlers".
But i believe that in my time here.If some one was to make a SERIOUS remark ,we the members would be the first to comment. Humour can be accepted by 98% of all of us. But if it is rude I think many would stand up and be counted with their replies.
Like ADAM.M I live very close to the heart of a large Jewish community and have many Jewish clients,most of them stark raving mad in their Humour!!! They enjoy taking the mick out of themselves so much!! Its great. But No way could i listen to someone being RUDE about them or others.I have a muslim wife and would hate her to be on the end of a racist remark.
I am sure us members will "shootdown" any remarks in style!!
But i believe that in my time here.If some one was to make a SERIOUS remark ,we the members would be the first to comment. Humour can be accepted by 98% of all of us. But if it is rude I think many would stand up and be counted with their replies.
Like ADAM.M I live very close to the heart of a large Jewish community and have many Jewish clients,most of them stark raving mad in their Humour!!! They enjoy taking the mick out of themselves so much!! Its great. But No way could i listen to someone being RUDE about them or others.I have a muslim wife and would hate her to be on the end of a racist remark.
I am sure us members will "shootdown" any remarks in style!!
03 March 2002, 05:32 PM
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EVIL,
Oh yeah I apologise to Mark for telling me about his friends assessment about Luxembourg.
Guys tell me WHAT ABOUT and WHY should I apologise to him?
Sorry I don't get it..........I don't even know this guy!!
Mr. R19KET, Luxembourg is a small country between France, Germany and Belgium, but as Evil says, thank for this fine sample of YOUR fine education.
EVIL, as for my reading skills, luxembourgish, german, english, french and japanese should be ever enough to ignore your ignorant comments.
I'm a disgrace to Luxembourg, no please come on, stop it, in what matter am I a disgrace because I buy Japanese products instead of luxembourgish or what?
Seriously, nice try, but stay on earth before typing you start your nonsense.
As you said, blinkered opinions, wanna be experts, but only know what's going on around them.
Mark, I guess by answering to others in this way, saying that I am ingorant etc makes you feel better, lack of guts to directly address me huh??
So Mark, quit your superior attitude and, in that matter, and if you want to know where the real tuners are, even British Airways flies to Japan quite often.
But .....no you don't even know where Belgium is, so forget it.......
Errr, I hope I read your posts correctly this time???
Oh yeah I apologise to Mark for telling me about his friends assessment about Luxembourg.
Guys tell me WHAT ABOUT and WHY should I apologise to him?
Sorry I don't get it..........I don't even know this guy!!
Mr. R19KET, Luxembourg is a small country between France, Germany and Belgium, but as Evil says, thank for this fine sample of YOUR fine education.
EVIL, as for my reading skills, luxembourgish, german, english, french and japanese should be ever enough to ignore your ignorant comments.
I'm a disgrace to Luxembourg, no please come on, stop it, in what matter am I a disgrace because I buy Japanese products instead of luxembourgish or what?
Seriously, nice try, but stay on earth before typing you start your nonsense.
As you said, blinkered opinions, wanna be experts, but only know what's going on around them.
Mark, I guess by answering to others in this way, saying that I am ingorant etc makes you feel better, lack of guts to directly address me huh??
So Mark, quit your superior attitude and, in that matter, and if you want to know where the real tuners are, even British Airways flies to Japan quite often.
But .....no you don't even know where Belgium is, so forget it.......
Errr, I hope I read your posts correctly this time???
03 March 2002, 05:36 PM
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Not seen any racist comments on here myself - maybe I have read them and dont consider them racist?? I am rather thick skinned!!
As for homophobic comments - does, "I would like Gold Wheels Sweetie" constitute a homophobic comment?? some would say yes, others no. Hence is the difficulty!
Simon, as he owns the BBS, has the last word and I would suppose that it would be his idea of acceptable behaviour that would prevail. Thats fine with me - we are playing with HIS football, if he doesnt like what you say or do he can take his ball home, together with the Astroturf, Goalposts AND Scoobynet Strip!!
I am confused as to how you can ban someone from a BBS?? I am no computer nerd - but is there a way of locking out an IP address?? doesnt it change?? so someone could just log on as someone else?? we all know that some members have numerous 'Handles'!!
Just my 2p's worth!!
Pete
As for homophobic comments - does, "I would like Gold Wheels Sweetie" constitute a homophobic comment?? some would say yes, others no. Hence is the difficulty!
Simon, as he owns the BBS, has the last word and I would suppose that it would be his idea of acceptable behaviour that would prevail. Thats fine with me - we are playing with HIS football, if he doesnt like what you say or do he can take his ball home, together with the Astroturf, Goalposts AND Scoobynet Strip!!
I am confused as to how you can ban someone from a BBS?? I am no computer nerd - but is there a way of locking out an IP address?? doesnt it change?? so someone could just log on as someone else?? we all know that some members have numerous 'Handles'!!
Just my 2p's worth!!
Pete
03 March 2002, 05:43 PM
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Pete, with most good Forum software, you can see what IP addresses users have posted from and ban them. So for abusers posting from Fixed IP's constantly, it is relatively easy to ban them. It is pretty unlikely that they will go to the trouble of purchasing another(if a home user with 1 fixed IP) IP. Unfortunatly, abusers using standard Dialup get dynamic IP's 99% of the time, making that pretty well a non-starter.
So yes basically, it is available as an option, along with the user banning by name.
Cheers,
Nick
So yes basically, it is available as an option, along with the user banning by name.
Cheers,
Nick