Useful lift-off-oversteer
09 February 2001, 09:28 AM
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Might have found a useful benefit for lift-off-oversteer?
Came upon a right hander a tad too quickly in the wet and as I turned in, the front end kept on going
. Visions of ending up in the ditch and in a panic lifted off. The Scooby then proceeded to dive into the corner, got back on the gas and was away safely.
Didn't know whether to grin
or **** 
myself!
Mike
Came upon a right hander a tad too quickly in the wet and as I turned in, the front end kept on going
. Visions of ending up in the ditch and in a panic lifted off. The Scooby then proceeded to dive into the corner, got back on the gas and was away safely.Didn't know whether to grin
or **** myself!Mike
09 February 2001, 09:53 AM
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Hi Mike
the exact situation you mention is the biggest cause of crashes in impreza's.
Lift-off-oversteer is indeed a good thing as long as you control it.
The front end going straight on it terminal understeer, you switched this to oversteer (although probably small) by putting a load of weight on the front tyres.
Very well done in getting back on the gas.
I also assume you must have wound off the steering early enough as well.
best regards
Simon
the exact situation you mention is the biggest cause of crashes in impreza's.
Lift-off-oversteer is indeed a good thing as long as you control it.
The front end going straight on it terminal understeer, you switched this to oversteer (although probably small) by putting a load of weight on the front tyres.
Very well done in getting back on the gas.
I also assume you must have wound off the steering early enough as well.
best regards
Simon
09 February 2001, 10:08 AM
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Simon,
Just needed a wee bit of reverse lock !
Kept it pretty steady after that due to heart racing!
I'll wait till the roads are dryer before attempting it again!!
Mike
Just needed a wee bit of reverse lock !
Kept it pretty steady after that due to heart racing!I'll wait till the roads are dryer before attempting it again!!
Mike
09 February 2001, 10:13 AM
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It's not just the "tucking in" that's the problem, it's that many drivers react to the tighter line by taking a large slice of opposite lock at the same time they've lifted.
With the fronts loaded and the rears unloaded and the tyres pointing towards the outside of the bend, the car promptly spins off in the opposite direction.
With the fronts loaded and the rears unloaded and the tyres pointing towards the outside of the bend, the car promptly spins off in the opposite direction.
09 February 2001, 10:21 AM
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Do they teach you stuff like this on the WTB course? I learnt a lot about driving on gravel/dirt at the Bill Gwynne Impreza Experience (best driving experience of my life to date!) but would like to know more about driving on roads, esp in the wet.
The things that stuck in my mind from the gravel driving were the b-i-i-i-g problems you get into if you lift off/brake when things are going pear-shaped and the fact that the scoob shoots off in pretty much the direction the front wheels are pointing in when you plant the throttle again, causing much merryment (me) annoyance (instructor) and photo opportunities (Josh).
R
The things that stuck in my mind from the gravel driving were the b-i-i-i-g problems you get into if you lift off/brake when things are going pear-shaped and the fact that the scoob shoots off in pretty much the direction the front wheels are pointing in when you plant the throttle again, causing much merryment (me) annoyance (instructor) and photo opportunities (Josh).
R