AM I CRAZY??
03 January 2002, 10:54 AM
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LOL @ all this 
Unfortunately it's mis-information like
can lead to all sort of problems - especially for newbies 
[Edited by The_Gza - 3/1/2002 10:58:37 AM]
Unfortunately it's mis-information like
Dont get no more than 1 bar boost with a standard intercooler.lots of people will say its no problem but trust me it isn't
[Edited by The_Gza - 3/1/2002 10:58:37 AM]
03 February 2002, 12:52 AM
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I don't give a **** what you guys are talking about. I will only comment on the F-CON 
. I will only say that it is the best aftermarket ECU money can buy. It's been a great success on Imprezas as far as I know, and offers very reliable tuning while getting the most out of the car. It utilises a 64 bit microprocessor unlike some others which utilize a 32 bit and sometimes 16 bit. It's like comparing a laptop that has Piii with 500 mHZ with one that has 1Ghz. As a result, it reads data quicker. Apexi Power FC and AVCR & AFC are not particularly good (I am always referring to Imprezas only). That's why major tuning companies e.g JUN AUTO MECHANIC and ZEROSPORT, BOZZSPEED etc are not using them on their cars and on customers' cars as well, despite the fact that they trade them. Last year whilst being in Osaka for business, I found time to go and visit the Tokyo Auto Saloon. There were cars with massive horsepower, none of them using Apexi electronics (apart from the Apexi's cars - a Skyline and an Integra). We all know that the Japanese are the daddies as regards modifying cars. The fact that they use the F-CON should tell us something. If people don't trust a particular company in England for tuning their ECU, this does not mean that the F-Cons are not good. Something else: Mr Koyama, the boss at JUN, when he visited my country to do some tuning on cars, he refused to touch on cars that had the Apexi Power FC. He expressly stated that they are not good for Imprezas. I am not saying that you will not get good power from the Power-FC and alike. In fact, a mate runs 11.2 the quarter mile with Power FC, but all the time the car stalls or blows. He now changes to F-CON looking at breaking his record, but with reliability. What I am saying is that the F-CON achieves maximum horsepower with optimum reliability. In few words, it is the BEST for our cars. It's time to move away from the traditional Link, Unichip and other sh**t and give F-CON a try. You will be amazed, particularly if you have a bigger turbo.
P.S What I mention above is based on actual and reliable findings.
Come on guys, give the guy a break. Don't you think it's gone too far?
Best regards to everybody
[Edited by piravlos - 3/2/2002 1:01:54 AM]
. I will only say that it is the best aftermarket ECU money can buy. It's been a great success on Imprezas as far as I know, and offers very reliable tuning while getting the most out of the car. It utilises a 64 bit microprocessor unlike some others which utilize a 32 bit and sometimes 16 bit. It's like comparing a laptop that has Piii with 500 mHZ with one that has 1Ghz. As a result, it reads data quicker. Apexi Power FC and AVCR & AFC are not particularly good (I am always referring to Imprezas only). That's why major tuning companies e.g JUN AUTO MECHANIC and ZEROSPORT, BOZZSPEED etc are not using them on their cars and on customers' cars as well, despite the fact that they trade them. Last year whilst being in Osaka for business, I found time to go and visit the Tokyo Auto Saloon. There were cars with massive horsepower, none of them using Apexi electronics (apart from the Apexi's cars - a Skyline and an Integra). We all know that the Japanese are the daddies as regards modifying cars. The fact that they use the F-CON should tell us something. If people don't trust a particular company in England for tuning their ECU, this does not mean that the F-Cons are not good. Something else: Mr Koyama, the boss at JUN, when he visited my country to do some tuning on cars, he refused to touch on cars that had the Apexi Power FC. He expressly stated that they are not good for Imprezas. I am not saying that you will not get good power from the Power-FC and alike. In fact, a mate runs 11.2 the quarter mile with Power FC, but all the time the car stalls or blows. He now changes to F-CON looking at breaking his record, but with reliability. What I am saying is that the F-CON achieves maximum horsepower with optimum reliability. In few words, it is the BEST for our cars. It's time to move away from the traditional Link, Unichip and other sh**t and give F-CON a try. You will be amazed, particularly if you have a bigger turbo.P.S What I mention above is based on actual and reliable findings.
Come on guys, give the guy a break. Don't you think it's gone too far?
Best regards to everybody
[Edited by piravlos - 3/2/2002 1:01:54 AM]
03 February 2002, 02:17 AM
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Mark,
I didn't go that far as saying that Motec, Pectel etc are not good.
I only said that for the Link and Unichip, and that is only compared to HKS. I am not against those, in fact I had a Unichip on my car, and now I am back to the standard ECU. What I mean is that if people have the money, the best ECU option is F-con. I repeat, if people have the money...
My mate has a Greddy TD06-25G with Greddy external Wastegate,FMIC,injectors,fuel pump, 4-2-1 manifold, Hiper Damper,exhaust, Power FC,reversed inlet,dog gearbox,cusco LSD TYPE mz, head gaskets, Cosworth pistons, steel rods, Sard Boost Control.
As regards my "findings", I was present at the rolling road when he swapped ECUs and I've seen the fuelling and ignition parameters myself and also how the car was behaving. The egt's went down as well, and the injector duty was less. Also, it reaches full boost earlier and the fact that the Japanese fellas use them is the best justification for me. I do trust the Japanese very much, unlike some companies here in the UK whose only aim is to sell and make profit, sometimes deceiving customers with their bull£hit. The Japanese do pukka stuff and are always sincere with customers and are not trying to deceive. They say what the have to say on the track. Have you ever heard of British performance products been exported to Japan? I don't think so. But the Japanese gear is taking over the performance market here in the UK. When I told a japanese tuner that I have a magn$x exhaust on my car he laughed at me.
Japanese products are the best, and this includes F-CON.
REGARDS
Piravlos
[Edited by piravlos - 3/2/2002 2:40:03 AM]
I didn't go that far as saying that Motec, Pectel etc are not good.
I only said that for the Link and Unichip, and that is only compared to HKS. I am not against those, in fact I had a Unichip on my car, and now I am back to the standard ECU. What I mean is that if people have the money, the best ECU option is F-con. I repeat, if people have the money...
My mate has a Greddy TD06-25G with Greddy external Wastegate,FMIC,injectors,fuel pump, 4-2-1 manifold, Hiper Damper,exhaust, Power FC,reversed inlet,dog gearbox,cusco LSD TYPE mz, head gaskets, Cosworth pistons, steel rods, Sard Boost Control.
As regards my "findings", I was present at the rolling road when he swapped ECUs and I've seen the fuelling and ignition parameters myself and also how the car was behaving. The egt's went down as well, and the injector duty was less. Also, it reaches full boost earlier and the fact that the Japanese fellas use them is the best justification for me. I do trust the Japanese very much, unlike some companies here in the UK whose only aim is to sell and make profit, sometimes deceiving customers with their bull£hit. The Japanese do pukka stuff and are always sincere with customers and are not trying to deceive. They say what the have to say on the track. Have you ever heard of British performance products been exported to Japan? I don't think so. But the Japanese gear is taking over the performance market here in the UK. When I told a japanese tuner that I have a magn$x exhaust on my car he laughed at me.
Japanese products are the best, and this includes F-CON.
REGARDS
Piravlos
[Edited by piravlos - 3/2/2002 2:40:03 AM]
03 February 2002, 01:42 PM
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Some people lacks the ability to understand when to quit - you my friend is one of them.
Stop using big words, show us dyno printouts and pictures of the car (otherwise noone will believe you - no matter how big an **** you try to make outta yerself here) - and bring your car to a trackday for ***** sake, if it's that fast it needs to be used properly.
Sincerely
/J
[Edited by SecretAgentMan - 3/2/2002 1:43:15 PM]
Stop using big words, show us dyno printouts and pictures of the car (otherwise noone will believe you - no matter how big an **** you try to make outta yerself here) - and bring your car to a trackday for ***** sake, if it's that fast it needs to be used properly.
Sincerely
/J
[Edited by SecretAgentMan - 3/2/2002 1:43:15 PM]
03 February 2002, 02:42 PM
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Whoa 
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Just read all 9 pages of this, and this has cheered me up no end whilst my car's off the road!!!!
Just for the attention of all who have posted on this thread:
I think it's a little co-incidental that we have a wind-up merchant here, writing in a very similar style to one we had on the RS bulletin board, one on mkV bulletin board, and one on the Fiesta Turbo website. All of these are a newbie poster based in London, with the same writing style, and same quantities of horse5hit being thrown around.
Some more ridiculous reading for your amusement :
http://www.rsownersclub.co.uk/ubb/ul...;f=19;t=000706
http://pub66.ezboard.com/fthemkvesco...picID=18.topic
http://pub66.ezboard.com/fthemkvesco...tart=1&stop=20
Craig - Mike R hinted to me what you've bought. My lips are sealed, but if it's what I think it is (autosport show?), you lucky bastid!
[Edited by RichardPON - 3/2/2002 2:44:16 PM]
!!!!Just read all 9 pages of this, and this has cheered me up no end whilst my car's off the road!!!!
Just for the attention of all who have posted on this thread:
I think it's a little co-incidental that we have a wind-up merchant here, writing in a very similar style to one we had on the RS bulletin board, one on mkV bulletin board, and one on the Fiesta Turbo website. All of these are a newbie poster based in London, with the same writing style, and same quantities of horse5hit being thrown around.
Some more ridiculous reading for your amusement
: http://www.rsownersclub.co.uk/ubb/ul...;f=19;t=000706
http://pub66.ezboard.com/fthemkvesco...picID=18.topic
http://pub66.ezboard.com/fthemkvesco...tart=1&stop=20
Craig - Mike R hinted to me what you've bought. My lips are sealed, but if it's what I think it is (autosport show?), you lucky bastid!
[Edited by RichardPON - 3/2/2002 2:44:16 PM]
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03 February 2002, 03:12 PM
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LOL - This thread is fantastic 
SB370, you've made the mistake of offering generic advice when what you are saying is specific to Model of impreza, turbo etc. As my profile says I am awaiting a skyline (£24k spent by previous owner to get 580bhp) and currently have a similar age WRX to you (which is sold). I did look at modifying the impreza and spoke to several companies (TDI being one of them - No way was I paying their prices - labour @ £58/hour + VAT!) and found many other schools of thought about modification. It appears TDI is pretty much unique in the approach they use... Can't comment on whether this is any better or worse, but conversations with other companies tended to suggest full replacement ECU's if going for big power, or as cheap addon a Unichip.
Anyway decided against big power in a scooby as I want a reliable car I can use daily and fancied a change anyway. Also there seemed little point spending £14k on getting 340bhp and better looks when for similar money I was able to swap to the skyline with much more power
Anyway hopefully I have talked sufficient bollox to further add to the amusement of this thread
PS - "Amateurs don't use NOS"
[Edited by polarbearit - 3/2/2002 3:14:02 PM]
SB370, you've made the mistake of offering generic advice when what you are saying is specific to Model of impreza, turbo etc. As my profile says I am awaiting a skyline (£24k spent by previous owner to get 580bhp) and currently have a similar age WRX to you (which is sold). I did look at modifying the impreza and spoke to several companies (TDI being one of them - No way was I paying their prices - labour @ £58/hour + VAT!) and found many other schools of thought about modification. It appears TDI is pretty much unique in the approach they use... Can't comment on whether this is any better or worse, but conversations with other companies tended to suggest full replacement ECU's if going for big power, or as cheap addon a Unichip.
Anyway decided against big power in a scooby as I want a reliable car I can use daily and fancied a change anyway. Also there seemed little point spending £14k on getting 340bhp and better looks when for similar money I was able to swap to the skyline with much more power
Anyway hopefully I have talked sufficient bollox to further add to the amusement of this thread
PS - "Amateurs don't use NOS"
[Edited by polarbearit - 3/2/2002 3:14:02 PM]
03 February 2002, 03:52 PM
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Yep, have to agree with R19 on about the advice. There are lots of people who understand subaru tuning better than me and I certainly would dream of advicing on which ECU is better without having experience of different ECU's and extensive research.
S370B, just out of interest why did you choose TDI for the work, and did you let them suggest the parts used or did you choose the bits yourself?
[Edited by polarbearit - 3/2/2002 4:03:07 PM]
S370B, just out of interest why did you choose TDI for the work, and did you let them suggest the parts used or did you choose the bits yourself?
[Edited by polarbearit - 3/2/2002 4:03:07 PM]
03 February 2002, 06:15 PM
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Please explain why the F-Con (is that the ProPro one? ) is that superiour?
Here have I've been thinking increased power in our scoobies comes from fuel, oxygen (boost) and ignition advance (if you don't start to fiddle with the static compression ratio that is)....obviously according to your vast knowledge there's a 4th previously unknown factor (NITRUX? *ROFLMAO*)?
It's a serious question.
Enlighten us feebleminded with cars slow and weak as ****.
/J
[Edited by SecretAgentMan - 3/2/2002 6:17:02 PM]
) is that superiour?Here have I've been thinking increased power in our scoobies comes from fuel, oxygen (boost) and ignition advance (if you don't start to fiddle with the static compression ratio that is)....obviously according to your vast knowledge there's a 4th previously unknown factor (NITRUX? *ROFLMAO*)?
It's a serious question.
Enlighten us feebleminded with cars slow and weak as ****.
/J
[Edited by SecretAgentMan - 3/2/2002 6:17:02 PM]
28 February 2002, 02:35 PM
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Ive got a 341bhp scooby and within 1 year i have spent about 14k on my car making it quite fast thing is i cant stop i keep thinking whats my next mod! i ll never be happy until is got some nitrux etc etc..Are there any others like me out there? or im just really crazy spending all my money??
thing is i cant stop i keep thinking whats my next mod! i ll never be happy until is got some nitrux etc etc..Are there any others like me out there? or im just really crazy spending all my money??
28 February 2002, 02:47 PM
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I am exactly the same!
Every time I do something I tell everyone that that's the end of it as I am now totally happy with the car.
Then a day or 2 passes and I am frantically searching around for the next thing to do!
However, I think I have a bit of a way to go to match your 370 beast
Every time I do something I tell everyone that that's the end of it as I am now totally happy with the car.
Then a day or 2 passes and I am frantically searching around for the next thing to do!
However, I think I have a bit of a way to go to match your 370 beast
28 February 2002, 02:47 PM
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HMMMM...IF you give me 15k you can have it.I ll get a skyline after that .I raced a Ferrari modena ones and he thought my car is mad as he couldnt beat me!.He told me:"what the hell have you done at your car???????" I Replied:"Just some small mods" He said yeah right!.I beaten once a 700cc bike...and he told me at next traffic light:"My bike has some problems needs tuning.I said to my self yeah right...Its so nice being crazy
.I raced a Ferrari modena ones and he thought my car is mad as he couldnt beat me!.He told me:"what the hell have you done at your car???????" I Replied:"Just some small mods" He said yeah right!.I beaten once a 700cc bike...and he told me at next traffic light:"My bike has some problems needs tuning.I said to my self yeah right...Its so nice being crazy
28 February 2002, 02:49 PM
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I 'll advie you if you like i ve done looooooooooooooooots of research rebuilt my engine once but i need some rods so i can get my 1.6 boost!...thinking about it..i think im convinced
i ve done looooooooooooooooots of research rebuilt my engine once but i need some rods so i can get my 1.6 boost!...thinking about it..i think im convinced
28 February 2002, 03:02 PM
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Ok listen to me carefully...Get an HKS EVC PRO.That will give you 1 bar boost very quickly(as quickly as your turbo can do it) is like a mappable ecu as well as electronic adjustable boost.Dont get no more than 1 bar boost with a standard intercooler.lots of people will say its no problem but trust me it isn't.Get that EVC PRO,definately a blow off valve(Dump valve-Reduces turbo lag get the HKS one ONLY).Others leak after some time..Get these and I 'll let you know what to do next.Remove also your cat.With what you got and the mods that i told you.You will be as fast as an EVO 6.I know because i raced one when i was at that stage
28 February 2002, 06:47 PM
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Scooby beast, what model impreza you got? I would love to mod my MY01 WRX up a bit but i just havent got a clue about this. Im scared i will wreck the engine or something.
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28 February 2002, 09:29 PM
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Scoobybeast,
So the HKS EVC is exactly like a remappable ECU eh?
Except it can't control ignition.
Or fuel.
Quite close then.
And the dump vavle makes a difference? don't tell me - I bet you could feel it?
This 700cc bike? Was it old per chance? A modern 600cc sports bike will do 0-100 in around 7.5 secs.
You saying you're that quick?
No offence, but I don't think your advice is very good to be honest.
So the HKS EVC is exactly like a remappable ECU eh?
Except it can't control ignition.
Or fuel.
Quite close then.
And the dump vavle makes a difference? don't tell me - I bet you could feel it?
This 700cc bike? Was it old per chance? A modern 600cc sports bike will do 0-100 in around 7.5 secs.
You saying you're that quick?
No offence, but I don't think your advice is very good to be honest.
28 February 2002, 09:48 PM
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Craig, tut tut
>>That will give you 1 bar boost very quickly(as quickly as your turbo can do it) is like a mappable ecu as well as electronic adjustable boost.Dont get no more than 1 bar boost with a standard intercooler.lots of people will say its no problem but trust me it isn't
How about this... I don't trust you for one bit because you are talking out of your neck ?
1 bar boost eh ... oh my gosh, quick, I want that too !
And a dumpvalve of course
I think I need a new type of car, as it's obvious that the totally clueless people have finally found the Impreza.
Theo
>>That will give you 1 bar boost very quickly(as quickly as your turbo can do it) is like a mappable ecu as well as electronic adjustable boost.Dont get no more than 1 bar boost with a standard intercooler.lots of people will say its no problem but trust me it isn't
How about this... I don't trust you for one bit because you are talking out of your neck ?
1 bar boost eh ... oh my gosh, quick, I want that too !
And a dumpvalve of course
I think I need a new type of car, as it's obvious that the totally clueless people have finally found the Impreza.
Theo
28 February 2002, 10:36 PM
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I wish you'd shared this very important piece of info a year ago...I've been running 1.2 bar with my stock IC...and now 1 month with 1.3....damn...and all this time I should've settled for 1 bar to get monster power.What is this "nitrux" U refer to...could you please enlighten me?
/J - born slow, died slow