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Old 04 March 2009, 01:51 PM
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Hello peeps,

first post here!!! (In quite a while, anyway)

So, I'm thinking of changing my STI4. I haven't kept up with my Scoob-homework for the last few years... hope someone can help me with picking my next one.

Having done some digging, I *think* I'm looking for a 2006/2007 Hawkeye STI Type UK PPP. I'm a bit confused though... I've seen these advertised with 305bhp, and also with 325bhp? Any idea what the actual figure is?

Also, if anyone has a view on how this newer model might compare to a standard STI4, I'd be very interested to hear about it.

As I said, I'm fairly sure I'm after a hawkeye, but any other suggestions for around the £14K mark would be welcome.

Cheers,
Gareth
Old 04 March 2009, 02:15 PM
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14k can buy one really good condition JDM Blobeye, even hawkeye.

I had this debate before, in fact it's just a month ago, and finally I decided to go for the JDM Blobeye.

I'm a happy owner now and glad that I choose JDM.

Always go for the JDM if you can afford one..
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The 305 figure for pre 2006 2 litre PPP STis. The hawkeye 2.5 litre STi PPP was 316 hp.
If you are not worried about the remaining warranty on a 2006 car then there are cheaper options than PPP and will get you to IRO 340 hp/380 lbft.

I think you'll miss the nimbleness of the STi4 but the solidness and grunt of the newer car will hopefully make up for it.
Can't you find an 06 car to test drive?

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Originally Posted by ryan_fong
14k can buy one really good condition JDM Blobeye, even hawkeye.

I had this debate before, in fact it's just a month ago, and finally I decided to go for the JDM Blobeye.

I'm a happy owner now and glad that I choose JDM.

Always go for the JDM if you can afford one..
Glad you're enjoying the Blobeye . Have to admit that I prefer the looks of the Blobeye to the Hawkeye...
Just wondering what the main differences were that sold you on the JDM version?
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Originally Posted by Butty
The 305 figure for pre 2006 2 litre PPP STis. The hawkeye 2.5 litre STi PPP was 316 hp.
If you are not worried about the remaining warranty on a 2006 car then there are cheaper options than PPP and will get you to IRO 340 hp/380 lbft.

I think you'll miss the nimbleness of the STi4 but the solidness and grunt of the newer car will hopefully make up for it.
Can't you find an 06 car to test drive?

nick
Ah, thanks for the info Nick. Yeah, on a 2006 model, I wouldn't be too worried about warranty. Was just thinking that a standard STi-PPP would be less hassle... Hmmm, so, the Hawkeye is less nimble, eh?... Maybe I'll see what the local dealership has got, that I can test-drive...

Ta!
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Originally Posted by elixirsol
Glad you're enjoying the Blobeye . Have to admit that I prefer the looks of the Blobeye to the Hawkeye...
Just wondering what the main differences were that sold you on the JDM version?
twin scroll turbo
rear wiper
quick steering rack
stronger internal components
.
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You know what, I'm not the expert because I've just got my scooby for 2 weeks..
So you better wait for some experts to show up and give you more advises..
Good luck mate..
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Originally Posted by ryan_fong
twin scroll turbo
rear wiper
quick steering rack
stronger internal components
.
.
.


You know what, I'm not the expert because I've just got my scooby for 2 weeks..
So you better wait for some experts to show up and give you more advises..
Good luck mate..
lol... may be just 2 weeks, but you know more than me! Thanks for the help.
Old 04 March 2009, 04:13 PM
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I went for 2006 Hawkeye 2.5 STI UK with PPP as stated it has 316BHP

with 14K you will have a top choice mine was 14K in Oct 2008 with 3000 mile on it full Subaru History etc etc from Souls Subaru Olney

That was before mega meltdown of everything on the planet so with 14K now you will be laughing

I carn't say enough about the Hawkeye - I love it having owed PPP blobeye WRX and PPP peanut WRX previously

However I dont have any experience with the Jap spec cars so go for test drive in each etc you won't go wrong with either
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This one is absolutely mint
Sheffield Scoobys :: View topic - my07 sti type uk in white very rare colour £15750
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Originally Posted by beal
Nice!
Old 04 March 2009, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by beal
STUNNING
Old 04 March 2009, 05:28 PM
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You could have a hawkeye Spec C with that sort of money.....

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/888444.htm

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I'm totally depressed ....... they are faaaaar tooooo cheap!

Spec C for me although that white STI is bloomin lovely!

JDM or UK you'll love it! If you're going JDM you might as well buy a hawkeye!
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Yeah, that white one is very tasty ... no PPP though, so might need to up the power.
Gawd, just realising what a novice I am at this new-age lark... "Spec C"??? right, I'm off to do some Googling...
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I have MY06 STi with PPP and love it!

Simpsons !
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Don't bother with the PPP mine had it and rollered at 295 had it remapped to 274 at the wheels so around 330-340 also the map is much smoother with an extra 5000rpm usable + better fuel economy!
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Originally Posted by simpsons !
I have MY06 STi with PPP and love it!

Simpsons !
You don't want to p/ex it for an old STi4, do you?
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I'll post up some piccys tonight.
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Originally Posted by PantsUK
Don't bother with the PPP mine had it and rollered at 295 had it remapped to 274 at the wheels so around 330-340 also the map is much smoother with an extra 5000rpm usable + better fuel economy!
Just wondering, you had it remapped "on top of" (if that makes sense) the PPP? So, no extra mechanical changes?

Anything that makes the power more usable, sounds good to me. Where did you get the remapping done?

Sorry for being a dimwit ... the help is much appreciated, cheers!
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Originally Posted by ryan_fong
twin scroll turbo

stronger internal components
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do u get stronger internals than uk cars ? thought uk had forged pistons anyways?
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i upgraded from a bug 02 wrx last week to a 06 hawkeye specD with PPP i knew i was in for a treat....but the car never seems to stop excelerating! I LOVE IT

<cough> i managed to pick mine up for £12,600 with a years subaru waranty also has the prodrive springs and a nice pioneer head unit/sat nav with 6 cd changer <cough>

so with 14K you can pick and choose from whatever takes your fancy

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Originally Posted by elixirsol
Just wondering, you had it remapped "on top of" (if that makes sense) the PPP? So, no extra mechanical changes?

Anything that makes the power more usable, sounds good to me. Where did you get the remapping done?

Sorry for being a dimwit ... the help is much appreciated, cheers!
The PPP map is generic. A remap will normally give far better results as the remap is specific to your car. PPP cars rarely make the claimed figures. I've had 2 which differed massively. Now my car is outof warranty it will soon be remapped. Bob
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Originally Posted by simpsons !
I'll post up some piccys tonight.
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Originally Posted by elixirsol
Just wondering, you had it remapped "on top of" (if that makes sense) the PPP? So, no extra mechanical changes?

Anything that makes the power more usable, sounds good to me. Where did you get the remapping done?

Sorry for being a dimwit ... the help is much appreciated, cheers!
Well I fitted a bigger exhaust but I can't see that making any difference so yes other than that it was the same. If you can get PPP without spending much more for it do it I'm sure it'll help with resale value but getting a custom remap ontop of the prodrive map for me was the best upgrade I've done.

As far as remap goes my choice now would have been to go open source..... I should have done that in the first place but went ecutek. Mocom are very good for open source!
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Originally Posted by Steve001
i upgraded from a bug 02 wrx last week to a 06 hawkeye specD with PPP i knew i was in for a treat....but the car never seems to stop excelerating! I LOVE IT

<cough> i managed to pick mine up for £12,600 with a years subaru waranty also has the prodrive springs and a nice pioneer head unit/sat nav with 6 cd changer <cough>

so with 14K you can pick and choose from whatever takes your fancy

steve
Hi Steve,
I saw a couple of specD's on Auto Trader without realising what they were... I expect that going slightly "covert" (or just plain sneaky!), can be alot of fun hehe

Sounds like I should be able to find something decent for 14K, then... that's good news
Gareth
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Bob, PantsUK,
thanks for the info guys, definitely sounds like a remap is a good idea.

Really getting quite itchy to find a car now!

Gareth
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Originally Posted by simpsons !
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Phwoarrrrr!!!

Nice one! Looks great in black...

Gareth
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Originally Posted by elixirsol
Hi Steve,
I saw a couple of specD's on Auto Trader without realising what they were... I expect that going slightly "covert" (or just plain sneaky!), can be alot of fun hehe

Sounds like I should be able to find something decent for 14K, then... that's good news
Gareth

'Covert' i like the sound of that and 'sneaky' from the outside its just the brembos that give the game away

'Stealth' is another good word, like an F16 on your six, then....... BOO!

take your time there loads out there


good luck Steve
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Originally Posted by elixirsol
Phwoarrrrr!!!

Nice one! Looks great in black...

Gareth



Another for you!
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I have a mate with a 2006 STi with PPP and tbh I was quite surprised that it didnt feel much , if any quicker than my 2006 STi, with a panel filter, and afterburner centre and rear box. I def wouldnt pay the extra 1500 for the difference. Def go remap, big difference and smoother drive.

Another vote for BLACK!





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