NF Octane booster. Can it really give 10+ bhp
25 January 2009, 09:58 PM
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NF Octane booster. Can it really give 10+ bhp
Having recently bought some NF Race Formula octane booster, (but not taken car out yet as new wheels coming on Tuesday
) I was looking at a reputable re-map company who had various bhp outputs for un-mapped and re-mapped cars. In a seperate box was an additional bhp rating for the NF.
Am I going to explode into hyperspace with this stuff
or is the site being a bit optimistic. Also, will a stronger than normal concentrate in the tank give more power or is there a limit as to the performance/efficiency gained?
) I was looking at a reputable re-map company who had various bhp outputs for un-mapped and re-mapped cars. In a seperate box was an additional bhp rating for the NF.Am I going to explode into hyperspace with this stuff
or is the site being a bit optimistic. Also, will a stronger than normal concentrate in the tank give more power or is there a limit as to the performance/efficiency gained?
26 January 2009, 12:49 AM
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Running a small amount of NF will allow your ECU to advance the ignition if it is not already at the maximum setting. Adding NF and mapping the car for that fuel will allow you to run more ignition advance. Ignition advance is one of the factors influencing torque output, response and crispness.
Adding 2mls/litre NF to V-Power probably takes the fuel over 100 RON if the advertised claims are correct. It certainly allows the engine to run an extra 2 degrees, perhaps more, ignition advance which has to be a good thing.
Adding 2mls/litre NF to V-Power probably takes the fuel over 100 RON if the advertised claims are correct. It certainly allows the engine to run an extra 2 degrees, perhaps more, ignition advance which has to be a good thing.
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26 January 2009, 01:04 PM
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I personally think it's unwise to map the car with octane booster. If you use the performance of the car frequently, you need to use the stuff pretty well all the time. Much wiser to map the car on your favorite fuel and save the OB for when you want that extra bit of security and if you ever need to use ordinary unleaded.
If you map the car with it, don't ever moan when the price of fuel goes up!
JohnD
If you map the car with it, don't ever moan when the price of fuel goes up!
JohnD
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26 January 2009, 01:59 PM
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300ml in a bottle, for everyday use, 1ml per litre of fuel, otherwise, 5ml per litre.
Car was mapped on high quality UK fuel so the NF will be a bonus.
Car was mapped on high quality UK fuel so the NF will be a bonus.
26 January 2009, 06:22 PM
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26 January 2009, 10:01 PM
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my car has water/meth injection and is mapped for 10% methanol in the V-power fuel- running 350bhp,333lb's/ft
I'm trying some NF race formula sourced from Roger Clarke at 5ml/litre. The ECU seems to have responded, the car pulls the same in 2nd,3rd and 4th.
Torque definately raised and the car sounds better.
Just have to be really carefull were I put the power down.
I'm trying some NF race formula sourced from Roger Clarke at 5ml/litre. The ECU seems to have responded, the car pulls the same in 2nd,3rd and 4th.
Torque definately raised and the car sounds better.
Just have to be really carefull were I put the power down.
27 January 2009, 08:40 AM
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I use it all the time. About £11 a bottle also. Buy it from Roger Clark MS in bulk.
Just remember to change your plugs frequently if always used.
27 January 2009, 08:42 AM
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I just bought a cheap plastic measuring jug (£1) and a plastic funnel (£1). Keep them in the jack area.
Refill just before light it on. Empty half the bottle, pour it in, top up with VPower, use the funnel to get the rest back in the bottle. *Ta-da* Easy done, only 1 person asked what i was doing in over a year.
Refill just before light it on. Empty half the bottle, pour it in, top up with VPower, use the funnel to get the rest back in the bottle. *Ta-da* Easy done, only 1 person asked what i was doing in over a year.
27 January 2009, 09:00 AM
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there are plenty of other options nowadays that are considerably cheaper than NF and just as/more effective.
methanol can be down to 58ppl if you know someone
E85 is about 85ppl
methanol can be down to 58ppl if you know someone
E85 is about 85ppl
27 January 2009, 10:50 AM
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When I first started using this stuff many years ago IIRC Dingy used to sell it, every 10 bottles you bought you got a little measuring cylinder. Unfortunately I'm on my last one now (the NF turns then brittle over time and they crack) so I'm on the lookout for a replacement. I'll probably get a little beaker from a lab supplier
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I believe 'Scotimax' is 3ml per litre but best ask your mapper.
IIRC the break point for diminishing returns is 3ml / litre
IIRC the break point for diminishing returns is 3ml / litre
27 January 2009, 11:41 AM
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I used to run NF all the time, and had it mapped for it - one bottle per tank.
Compared to before, it made the same peak power but more 20lbft more torque and the power band seemed slightly wider too. However, it also made my engine feel a bit more lumpy at the bottom end, not as "smooth" if that makes sense. Made 353/354 on deltadash.
Now running an E85 mix and 0.1bar more boost and torque is up a whopping 38lbft from the NF map and max power increased too. Currently at 391/392 on same deltadash with same settings.
I switched from NF due to the prohibitive cost, but I'm happy I tried E85 as it seems to make my car happy, and it's as cheap as petrol so "free power". Not going back to NF in a hurry
Compared to before, it made the same peak power but more 20lbft more torque and the power band seemed slightly wider too. However, it also made my engine feel a bit more lumpy at the bottom end, not as "smooth" if that makes sense. Made 353/354 on deltadash.
Now running an E85 mix and 0.1bar more boost and torque is up a whopping 38lbft from the NF map and max power increased too. Currently at 391/392 on same deltadash with same settings.
I switched from NF due to the prohibitive cost, but I'm happy I tried E85 as it seems to make my car happy, and it's as cheap as petrol so "free power". Not going back to NF in a hurry
27 January 2009, 04:33 PM
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I used to run NF all the time, and had it mapped for it - one bottle per tank.
Compared to before, it made the same peak power but more 20lbft more torque and the power band seemed slightly wider too. However, it also made my engine feel a bit more lumpy at the bottom end, not as "smooth" if that makes sense. Made 353/354 on deltadash.
Now running an E85 mix and 0.1bar more boost and torque is up a whopping 38lbft from the NF map and max power increased too. Currently at 391/392 on same deltadash with same settings.
I switched from NF due to the prohibitive cost, but I'm happy I tried E85 as it seems to make my car happy, and it's as cheap as petrol so "free power". Not going back to NF in a hurry
Compared to before, it made the same peak power but more 20lbft more torque and the power band seemed slightly wider too. However, it also made my engine feel a bit more lumpy at the bottom end, not as "smooth" if that makes sense. Made 353/354 on deltadash.
Now running an E85 mix and 0.1bar more boost and torque is up a whopping 38lbft from the NF map and max power increased too. Currently at 391/392 on same deltadash with same settings.
I switched from NF due to the prohibitive cost, but I'm happy I tried E85 as it seems to make my car happy, and it's as cheap as petrol so "free power". Not going back to NF in a hurry
27 January 2009, 04:40 PM
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I use NF on my car. I use 100mls each time round.
I'm **** enough to have loads of pre made bottles at the go.
It's mapped on the stuff but only 100mls lol. So if I want to add more I add more. If not I just leave it to 100mls.
Steve
I'm **** enough to have loads of pre made bottles at the go.
It's mapped on the stuff but only 100mls lol. So if I want to add more I add more. If not I just leave it to 100mls.
Steve
27 January 2009, 11:21 PM
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Just out of curiosity I'm running water / methanol injection from a 12 litre Spec C tank in the boot of my Bugeye sorted by Matt and Olly at RCMS
TD05 Deadbolt 18G with a few mods at 400 ish BHP and 2 wrecked newage 5 speed gearboxes
Now on a Jap 6 speed gearbox and just wondering what will break next LOL
What are you running with your water and meth injection ?
Cheers
Shaun
Just out of curiosity I'm running water / methanol injection from a 12 litre Spec C tank in the boot of my Bugeye sorted by Matt and Olly at RCMS
TD05 Deadbolt 18G with a few mods at 400 ish BHP and 2 wrecked newage 5 speed gearboxes
Now on a Jap 6 speed gearbox and just wondering what will break next LOL
What are you running with your water and meth injection ?
Cheers
Shaun
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