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Old 13 December 2008, 10:15 AM
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Unhappy Impreza reduntant in WRC from 2010

As they have decided to make all the WRC cars based on the Super 2000 rules to keep costs down. The rules are for 2010 onwards, next year will be the last for the cars in their current guise.

No more turbos in WRC then
Old 13 December 2008, 11:44 AM
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It'll be fine. Limiting the electronics and allowing turbos, manifolds and aero kit won't kill off the impreza or anyone else. It'll keep the sport grounded and as in F1, they will always find a way to be fast.

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Originally Posted by Ved
It'll be fine. Limiting the electronics and allowing turbos, manifolds and aero kit won't kill off the impreza or anyone else. It'll keep the sport grounded and as in F1, they will always find a way to be fast.

No turbo

2 litre normally aspirated engine, limited revs, standard gearbox etc etc. The Impreza will be too big & heavy surely, the super 2000 cars are derived from smaller models (Punto etc).
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read the wrc website. They are allowed turbos, exhausts and quick shifts.
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Would it be more sensible and cost effective to say that the cars have to be based on a current production car and no adding 4wd to an existing car ?

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I'd be more than happy if they just took standard production cars with basic handling, safety and braking mods and rallied them rather than the bespoke plastic exotica every WRC team currently races. Isn't the whole point of rallying to be close to the car consumer market. I haven't watched or followed WRC rallying for many years as the gulf between what's rallied and what rolls off the production line is a gulf apart.
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if they go ahead with these rules, i'll give it 5 years till a new championship with very few rules replaces wrc as the top rally event
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Hmm, cheers for that, bit unsure though?

From the WRC site:

Instead, the WRC kit is believed to be limited to a turbo, revised inlet and exhaust manifolds, a quicker gearshift mechanism (with steering wheel paddle shift) and an aero package consisting of a rear wing and front spoiler.
Why aren't the new rules clear?

The e-mail I got sent said no turbo, all seems to be a bit up in the air at the moment!
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F*ck this. The WRC is supposed to be the pinnacle of rallying. They should be making it faster, not slower. Bring back group B and 200 Homologation speicials for the road.
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Originally Posted by JONNY_693
F*ck this. The WRC is supposed to be the pinnacle of rallying. They should be making it faster, not slower. Bring back group B and 200 Homologation speicials for the road.
Liking that idea mate There was a green Metro 6R4 around here a couple of years ago, not seen it in a while but was a very special sight I thought.
Old 13 December 2008, 02:12 PM
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Those rules dont sound good for the current WRC cars

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Old 13 December 2008, 02:30 PM
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Rally cross is already much more brutal motorsport anyway with high hp its really the modern group b
Old 13 December 2008, 03:18 PM
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bring back group b, they were the days of proper rallying, pure ***** out power and the skill of the driver no fancy driving aids
Old 13 December 2008, 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by rob84
bring back group b, they were the days of proper rallying, pure ***** out power and the skill of the driver no fancy driving aids
yeah was a "little" dangerous though has to be admitted... dont get me wrong im a cossie boy and LOVED the earlyt rallys when i grew up, the rules where the nuts too as they made cossies available to anyone

wrc is just a proper rich mans sport aint just just like F1

bring the prices down and watch more cars compete sounds good,,,, if thats what happens anyway
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Fia need putting down.
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Hope they dont water it down to much, its a sad day indeed.
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hence Rallying is dying and the Likes of touring Car is a far better Spectator sport

IMHO

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Originally Posted by hux309
Fia need putting down.
FIA stands for Fcuk International Automobiles and competitors unless they are French

The only car that are "also Rans" in the WRC are the only manufactures f 4WD turbo cars SUBARU and MITUBUSI why make a 4WD Turbo car that retricts developement of a 4WD rally car

IMHO

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Old 14 December 2008, 05:45 AM
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What was wrong with Group A? Motorsport has gone to sh*t since everyone decided that they were too good to run their championship within the existing class framework.
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Originally Posted by rsargantson
Would it be more sensible and cost effective to say that the cars have to be based on a current production car and no adding 4wd to an existing car ?

Richard
Originally Posted by scoobynutta555
I'd be more than happy if they just took standard production cars with basic handling, safety and braking mods and rallied them rather than the bespoke plastic exotica every WRC team currently races. Isn't the whole point of rallying to be close to the car consumer market. I haven't watched or followed WRC rallying for many years as the gulf between what's rallied and what rolls off the production line is a gulf apart.
TBH, these two posts make the most sense to me. Get it right and get MORE teams into rallying, with the cars they run bearing at least SOME relation to those sold in the showroms. Back to grassroots, I say
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