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Old 24 November 2008, 09:44 PM
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why do ppl spend alot of money buying a decent car like new scooby's or new evo's and then skimp on the mods looking at all the cheap sh*te?????

seen a new evo with a ripspeed dvd headunit fitted????
car is worth £27k???? and you buy the cheapest headunit around??
why??? you clearly have money lol!!

like a lot of ppl on here buy scoobys and go ebay mental for alot of cheap rubbish?

dont understand the logic behind it, if you want to mod on the cheap buy a corsa or nova.

rant over
Old 24 November 2008, 10:13 PM
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u can buy a car for say 27k but then justifying to missues that u need that £700 headunit as well is a bit tricky
Old 24 November 2008, 10:38 PM
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maybe he's got a 27k car because he doesn't waste money on 1200 quid stereos

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Old 24 November 2008, 10:45 PM
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sometimes performance is more important than the audio, although saying that i've got a £1000 pioneer dvd system in mine

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Old 24 November 2008, 10:51 PM
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id rather listen to the exhaut note than the stero. never have the stereo on much in my scoob.
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In a scoob a bottom of the range halfords special stereo is still3-4x better than the standard pish installed!



rant over
Old 25 November 2008, 12:34 AM
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I wouldnt spend 27k on a scoob

get you a decent porsche,
plus i'm not arsed on what head unit is it there
ripspeed or whatever it is
just like having a big tv
ive got a 21 inch tv
what does that say?

Where do you live - rural?
detached or semi or terraced?,
how much do you earn, blah blah

What does it fookin matter

i have a silver crest head unit in my fiat, i've been on a caribbean cruise and been to the maldives, i've got a couple of houses, one with a pool, no mortgage

and you go on about head unit

is it cos u broke in the car to nick it

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Old 25 November 2008, 12:51 AM
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ermmmm .... and breathe ....
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wooooh, cheers PantsUK
Old 25 November 2008, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by adzer
why do ppl spend alot of money buying a decent car like new scooby's or new evo's and then skimp on the mods looking at all the cheap sh*te?????

seen a new evo with a ripspeed dvd headunit fitted????
car is worth £27k???? and you buy the cheapest headunit around??
why??? you clearly have money lol!!

like a lot of ppl on here buy scoobys and go ebay mental for alot of cheap rubbish?

dont understand the logic behind it, if you want to mod on the cheap buy a corsa or nova.

rant over

They don't have loads of money. The cars been bought on the 'Never never' and after paying the hire purchase, fuel, insurance e.t.c there is no money left for mods.

HTH
Old 25 November 2008, 11:24 AM
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Why bother with a decent sound system in a a Scoob, you can't hear it over the engine anyway. I think Subaru knew what they were doing when they fit the crap sound system.
If i wanted a fancy sound system i would have it in the house, not in the car, reguarly see motors with the Pioneer/Kenwood stickers....just advertising for the car thief.
Old 25 November 2008, 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by azz250478
maybe he's got a 27k car because he doesn't waste money on 1200 quid stereos

Aaron
I think this is the answer the op is looking for, ive got an Aldi cdplayer/stereo in my Scoob, it plays cds and I can listen to radio 2, 'pumpin' bass isn't my thing.
Old 25 November 2008, 01:31 PM
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I kinda understand, Having said that I would mug for a ripspeed head unit right now, I have the 2002 sti stock tape player.... That chews up all my early 90's tapes I dug out.

Maybe the question should be why do car companies think its ok to charge 27k for a car and then not put in an awesome head unit in the first place!!
Old 25 November 2008, 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by adzer
why do ppl spend alot of money buying a decent car like new scooby's or new evo's and then skimp on the mods looking at all the cheap sh*te?????

seen a new evo with a ripspeed dvd headunit fitted????
car is worth £27k???? and you buy the cheapest headunit around??
why??? you clearly have money lol!!

rant over
Maybe its an import car and this radio picked up more than Radio 2, maybe he took out his "£2k ice system" and wanted to fill the gap in the dashboard, maybe he does not use the radio much?

The difference between driving and owning £27k car is £27k + cost of the credit - depreciation of the car = an asset that is dropping in real value every second.
Old 25 November 2008, 02:21 PM
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my ripspeed head unit is alright not everyone can spend hundreds on a stereo
Old 25 November 2008, 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by dj219957
id rather listen to the exhaut note than the stero. never have the stereo on much in my scoob.
My feelings too, NEVER have the stereo on, never have in any of the cars I've owned.
Old 25 November 2008, 06:15 PM
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you are all picking up on sound systems here, i'm on about mods in general.

the amount of posts i've seen on here ppl asking about advice on cheap stuff on ebay............cheap dumpvalves..............cheap headers.........cheap coilovers.

9/10 times if something is selling cheap its too good to be true and you will get what you pay for.......

if your looking for performance you want the best on the market not the cheapest thats gonna end up blowing your engine or cause problems
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I agree with certain things ie cheap engine parts etc, anything that if it broke/failed could cause damage etc, but the cheap stereo bit implied that people with expensive cars should always spend top money on stereos/parts, when sometimes(not all the time) cheaper ones are just as good

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Old 25 November 2008, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by adzer
why do ppl spend alot of money buying a decent car like new scooby's or new evo's and then skimp on the mods looking at all the cheap sh*te?????

seen a new evo with a ripspeed dvd headunit fitted????
car is worth £27k???? and you buy the cheapest headunit around??
why??? you clearly have money lol!!

like a lot of ppl on here buy scoobys and go ebay mental for alot of cheap rubbish?

dont understand the logic behind it, if you want to mod on the cheap buy a corsa or nova.

rant over
Whilst I would not suggest that the above example means the owner is skimping (this is only audio after all), but it does lend the question why people buy these cars and skimp on general maintenance and any chosen power mods etc. I think this boils down to the fact that they actually can't afford the car to begin with, regardless of what HP agreement (there lies part of the tale) they are signed up to.

I can only see this getting worse over the coming years. Less money in the pocket.
Old 25 November 2008, 08:00 PM
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mid life crisis?
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Old 25 November 2008, 10:16 PM
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It depends on your definition of skimping,not everything expensive is worth the extra money.

e.g. Defi's are considered to be the 'industry standard' gauge but many people by other brands such as Auto Gauges,Racetech,Prosport e.t.c.

Do these gauges perform badly = no
Do they look out of place = no
Are they crap because they cost 4 times less than Defi's = no

I agree you get what you pay for on some items but on others it just seems to be a lot of marketing hype,imo.
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I got a kenwood today from halfrauds 179 inc a pocket for underneath and fitting. Includes a blue tooth mic and stuff which they also plumbed in as well as routing the cable for the IPOD connector ... good value ... but fked up my colour scheme :O)
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Just because something costs a lot doesn't mean it is be best its just that people are willing to pay for it... just because something is less expensive doesn't always mean it is crap.

Be careful, brand snobbery is the way of the chaver.

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Old 26 November 2008, 10:27 AM
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because I'm a grown up I couldn't care less (any more ) about the stereo in the car.

I like having a tape deck and cd as a stock install.

reminds me of some fat git I saw at subaru dealership a while ago arguing the trade in of his car had to be worth £2K more because of the pump'in bass system.

no actually, its made the car worth less and devalued it, you big fat chav.

I did have a DAB remote system in my last car- now I miss that. Planet rock all day long !!!

someone else said it though- its coz car bought on never never and they can't afford to upgrade stuff like the radio.
Old 26 November 2008, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by JONNY_693
They don't have loads of money. The cars been bought on the 'Never never' and after paying the hire purchase, fuel, insurance e.t.c there is no money left for mods.

HTH

Nial On The Head Mate
Old 26 November 2008, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by wiley
although saying that i've got a £1000 pioneer dvd system in mine
do you leave it in the car overnight?



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I couldnt do without my Kenwood headunit, type R front speakers and XPL Kicker sub in my car(althought not a subaru) as the factory equipment was crap. I'm in my car traveling approx 4hours a day at the mo, its its nice to beable to listen to Paul Simon or Dave Pearce lol in the best quality possible.

Plus i can crank up my tunes in my car, in the house my 2.5k worth of HiFi hardly gets used as i have neighbours!
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I spent quite a few years in the motor trade and let me tell you that there are a lot of people running around in £27k cars who barely have the cash to put petrol in the tank or keep some food in the fridge. A lot of people get into a 'must have it' mentality and pull out all the stops to get into a car and then can't really afford to run it.
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I actually went in to Halfrauds last week looking for a IPOD headunit to put in my '£2,700'. Forester that I use purely for commuting and football runs.

I actually bought the £80 ripspeed unit , as I could not see the point of paying £100.00 more for something Ill leave in the car when I sell it.

It looks pretty naff, but who cares? It wont be the first choice in a smash grab - sounds better than the old Subaru unit and plays/charges my Ipod. Fit for purpose - yeah!


My Impreza did the full works install: Head Unit/dynamat/custom stealth speakers/Subs/ipod adapter etc, when i bought it though.
It also had defis - so that must make me a hypocrite



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