I see it occasionally with people saying they're running stage 2 mods etc but it's said all the time on the american tuning sites as though everyone automatically knows what a stage 2 tune is ....

soooo


WTF is a stage 2 (and 3 and 4) tune and surely there are different levels of stage 2/3/4 etc etc to make it a completely incomparable statement ?

Is a stage 1 air filter / exhaust, stage 2 headers remap ? and what if you have a turbo upgrade but no exhaust or filter does it become a stage 1.5 ?

Or have I had too much vodka and need a kip bad?

 

AndyForrestPerformance

 

Marketing bumpf TBH.

 

It harks back to badly modified Ford X-flow heads and it had no real meaning then; so it certainly means nothing now.

 

Cracking write up in redline mag dec 07,"Tuning subaru ej20 engine" stage 1: exaust/induction/re-map 275-340bhp £1-3k, stage2: turbo/injectors 300-380bhp £2-4k, stage 3:intercooler/fuel pump (but i'd of said fuel pump at stage 1)330-400bhp £3-6k, stage 4: internals/transmition 450bhp £7.5-15k, and stage 5: ecu/upgrade stages 1-4 550bhp £15-30k, and stage 6: i.e. Andy forrest, zen, roger clarke, 600-800bhp+ £30-60k

 

Which just goes to show that it is completely meaningless/pointless...

 

I'd have to agree with that.

Mine's at stage I do what I like

 

Stage 1 to me is 500+bhp!

 

good my assumptions were correct .... it's a complete load of ****! .... drunken brain vindicated!

 

what's stage 2 then?

 

i think a lot of companys have there own versions of what stage1,2,3 is so if you ask one company for stage 2 you might not get the same as another companys stage 2.so basically its a load of bollocks i thinks.

 

i'd say stage one was induction kit and exhaust, but its like a vicious circle because when you do those mods, go in some one else's car yours feels slow so you do one more and one more etc

 

Ooo, acording to that Im stage 3!

Always remember my old Calibra turbo days, it was all about what Phase software you had! Load of crap then, and still is now.