172sport

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Any good deals on at the mo?

TIA.

scooblube

Try Custom cages.

172sport

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Yeah already fired a mail off

sanf

The main two contenders I believe are Custome Cages & OMP. I think Safety Devices do one, but I've heard some bad press.

We got our custom cages through Roger Clark Motorsport, spoke with Olli and he put a good deal together. It's a great cage. We did have a Torquespeed cage in the 2 door, but the custome cages uses bigger tubing and seems very well designed.

I think one of the issues now with GC8 4 doors is that the cages are no longer 'stock', they are all made to order. Good luck finding one.

172sport

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Will I'm no rush so no probs waiting.

My main use is for trackdays but id like the option of a homologated cage for the future ie help sell it on if/when the time comes.

tath

homologated? to what?

if it's FIA then there's no problem with bolt ins. A lot of scrutineers prefer bolt ins because it takes away the "have they welded it in right" they just have to check that it's got 4 bolts in each foot.

Godspeed Brakes

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The homologation is up this year for the GC8 , so no need for one , I have a Custom Cages in my current car , the T45 one , they also do a cheaper CDS cage , I built a car about 18 months ago and bought a CDS one for about £600 ish , and it cost me £1000 to have it fitted , and the inside and boot sprayed gunmetal grey.

sanf

Good point on the install. Bolt in's are cheaper and easier to fit, weld ins require a lot more work, but (I believe) are stronger, and looking how ours performed in our accident on Somerset we have def gone for another weld in. Have a look in projects under GC8 rally car re-build, you'll see the damaged car and the new one in build at the moment with the cage bare and sprayed.

Is the homolgation definate, as I have been told that Scooby have re-homologated the GC8 for 2 more years??

172sport

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A homologated cage as in certified for motorsport, not a homologated car pur se.

I dont rate bolt in as there bulky and dont fit close to the pillars. A weld in has to be better as its tied in to cars the structure and as a rule fixed at more points than just the feet. I feel they are more tailored to fit.

As for my welding, its not an issue.

Godspeed Brakes

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Come to think of it , I think you may be partly right in that its been extended another 2 years for national events , but not for international ones , or WRC rounds , I was thinking of doing rally GB this year as its the last year I can use it .

sanf

So were we, but our accident put paid to that. National events isn't so much of issue as we run in the BTRDA championship and are allowed to run in Grp N as long as the car fits it's homolgation spec.

However one of the guys who works on the car, has his own GC8 and is heavily into technical bits says it's being extended via the FIA for a further 2 years. Lifted from the FIA web site:

N 5480 SUB. IMPREZA 555 GC8 – 1'994.4 x 1.7 = 3'390.5cc 01.04.1993 2010

http://argent.fia.com/web/fia-public...sPays_2008.pdf

This is the latest list of homolgated cars, and it looks to me like the GC8 has been extended until 2010. Hope so........the dream may still be on

joey_turbo

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To save me reading up on stuff I don;t understand, can one of you guys breifly tell me what this homologationis all about?

sanf

When a manufacturer wants to enter a car into International competition such as rallying they must 'Homologate' a car, basically agree that all the parts on each one will be the same. In the old Grp B days it was somthing like 250 cars had to be produced for homolgation, however I think it is now 25,000units must be produced.

The manufacturer will then submit Homolgation papers, which is a bit like a manual on how this ar should be built by anyone wanting to compete in international events. Homolgation can be Group N (showroom spec, 32mm Turbo restrictor), Grp A (old WRC spec, 34mm turbo restrictor), World Rally Cars, S2000. While a car is homolgated the manufacturer can homolgate new bits - i.e. bits they have added to later models.

A car is homolgated for the life of it's production and then 7 years after they stop making it, unless the manufacturer pays for 2 years extensions - which appears to be the case with the GC8. It was stopped being made in 2001 - so homolgation should have run out end of 2008, but it looks like Scooby have extended it another 2 years. If this is the case then it means GC8's can still be entered on events such as the British Rally Championship and WRC events i.e Wales Rally GB.

Once the homolgation expires cars tend to run in the open class, as long as they conform to the RACMSA blue book then you can change bits, plastic windows, gearbox's, engine internals etc. Once it expires you can no longer enter BRC & WRC events but UK national events such as the MSA gravel championship or BTRDA. However the BTRDA allow cars that are still in their original homolgation spec to compete in that class even once the model is no longer homolgated for international events.

Hope that makes sense - if I've put anything wrong I'm please can someone else correct. Ta

tath

That seems about right afaik, but I'm not sure OP was looking for that? Even with the two years, by the time he builds it and has a bit of fun, if he wants to sell it the homologation will be nearly up anyway.

OP, are you sure anything FIA regs isn't enough? So you can enter at a slightly lower level lol.

Godspeed Brakes

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You can rent my car off me to do it if you wanted ,

joey_turbo

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Cheers sanf