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Old Oct 9, 2008 | 11:42 AM
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I just fitted a Whiteline 24mm adjustable rear ARB. Took the car out for a drive and it has made a huge difference to the way the car handles. The car corners flatter and turn in is sharper. I can carry more speed through the twisties
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Old Oct 9, 2008 | 11:52 AM
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how is turn in sharpened by fitting a rear ARB?
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Old Oct 9, 2008 | 01:21 PM
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I think it kind of unstablizise the back so the front grips better, bit of a weird handling thing. Also go careful when it wets as it can get a bit twitchy.
Great value for money mod.
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Old Oct 9, 2008 | 01:32 PM
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ah right, so you've researched it then
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Old Oct 9, 2008 | 01:36 PM
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cant wait i have just brought whiteline arb's and links for front and rear ..

cant wait to fit them
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Old Oct 9, 2008 | 03:46 PM
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I'd say it should be the first mod anyone does (although I went for the 22mm adjustable). I found the understeer unnerving, but noticed the improvement going round the first roundabout coming home from Zen.

In the first week driving to/from work (which I can do in my sleep), I had to keep myself from hitting the middle of roundabouts because I needed much less steering input to get round.
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Old Oct 9, 2008 | 04:11 PM
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im getting one fitted at the end of the month
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Old Oct 9, 2008 | 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Peanuts
how is turn in sharpened by fitting a rear ARB?
Quite simple really. If you stiffen the rear, you increase the cars tendency to oversteer, thus making the front react quicker to any given input.

And for a basic guide:

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Old Oct 9, 2008 | 04:43 PM
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I've got Whiteline front and rear ARB and droplinks on mine.
Just need to fit anti-lift kit now, funds bearing
What a difference!
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Old Oct 9, 2008 | 10:27 PM
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Would a non adjustable one make much difference?
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Old Oct 9, 2008 | 10:30 PM
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Next on my shopping list.

Is it worth buying front and rear or just rear? Also what droplinks, as I believe you can get different types from whiteline themselves?
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Just out of interest with Whiteline ARB's what setting does everyone have theirs set to? Mine is on the middle setting but ive never had any guidence on what is the best setting?
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I've fitted the Whiteline 24mm adjustable rear ARB with alloy drop links. It is currently set on the middle setting.
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Old Oct 10, 2008 | 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Peanuts
how is turn in sharpened by fitting a rear ARB?
Very good question
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Old Oct 10, 2008 | 09:10 AM
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I need these-how easy are they to fit yourself?
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Old Oct 10, 2008 | 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Horrid Cars
I need these-how easy are they to fit yourself?
Claarkio made a good guide:

https://www.scoobynet.com/suspension...links-arb.html


So does anyone know if an non adjustable ARB is as good?
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Old Oct 10, 2008 | 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Horrid Cars
I need these-how easy are they to fit yourself?
Very easy to fit the rear ARB, i did have to use a small angle grinder to cut the old drop links off!!
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Originally Posted by joey_turbo

So does anyone know if an non adjustable ARB is as good?
AFAIK, a non adjustable is the same as having an adjustable on the middle setting so will still be good.

A 22mm bar will give you a small amount of understeer.

A 24mm bar will probably give you none, but could be twitchy, especially in the wet.

The advantage of an adjustable is that you can stiffen it up for track use, say, where you want it to be sharp, but soften it for easier wet handling.

I think the 22mm on its hard setting is like a 24mm fixed.

I've got a 22mm ARB and to be honest am quite happy with the middle setting, so I could have just bought a non adjustable.
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22mm on hard is not like a 24mm non adjustable
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Old Oct 10, 2008 | 11:18 AM
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I fitted a 24mm to the rear of my classic,on the middle setting it didn't feel right,too stiff.Changed to the soft setting,and it's wicked! Love it. I have rear drop links,hardrace alk,sti 6 suspension. Im going for the front 22mm soon,then may be able to set the rear harder.
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Old Oct 10, 2008 | 01:03 PM
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Thank you Duncan, at least it wasn't totally wasted
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Originally Posted by dynamix
Very good question
How do you have yours set up mate? I can see by your treads you actually use your car for road and track. What size bar have you gone for? What setting? ect.
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What effect does a thicker front arb, have then

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Old Oct 10, 2008 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Bikebloke
How do you have yours set up mate? I can see by your treads you actually use your car for road and track. What size bar have you gone for? What setting? ect.
I have 25mm rear on stiffest setting and 24mm front but I also have lots of other modifications to the suspension and suspension points location that get it to handle just the way I want.

22mm front and rear adjustables are a good starting point for the road and most track stuff but get advice from an expert like Paul at Zen, or better still pay them to set it up for you.
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Old Oct 10, 2008 | 04:17 PM
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I have whiteline 27mm front and rear bars to go on.....anyone have any feedback on these????

The rear bar has three holes....which one is the softest setting...???
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Old Oct 10, 2008 | 05:26 PM
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27mm is VERY stiff.
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Old Oct 10, 2008 | 05:53 PM
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An adjustable bar allows you to fine tune the cars handling, a stiffer front bar will be ace in the dry, but MAY induce understeer in low grip situations IMHO !

Mine is set up stiff at both ends, with an ALK and grippy tyres it is neutral and un-stickable on the road. On track where you try a fair bit harder mine just edges into oversteer on the exit under full throttle.... NICE !

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Old Oct 10, 2008 | 11:08 PM
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I fitted the 22mm front [non adj] and an adj 22mm rear [centre hole] and droplinks to my MY03 STI.
When I first pushed it round bends I found it quite twitchy and unnerving which made me wonder had I totally wasted nearly £300.
Perhaps it would have taken more getting used or a change is my driving style or perhaps stiffen up the rear some more ??????????
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Old Oct 10, 2008 | 11:25 PM
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A complete waste of money. If you want proper handling go for coil overs. Roll bars stop your car from leaning and have nothing to do with the handling, grip.
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I love SNET !

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