HOW QUICK???
14 July 2008, 11:49 PM
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HOW QUICK???
Evening all just wondering what kind of power a classic or STI would need to be putting out to keep with a Honda CBR 600 just a debate in work me and a friend who owns a CBR 600 are having and before some of you say yes I know the bike is quicker but as the post says what kind of power would you need to keep with the bike.
15 July 2008, 12:24 AM
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Agree 450-500bhp+
A Subaru with 500 bhp will do a 1/4 mile in the low 11's or so which is about the same as a modern 600 cc sportsbike.
I've drove a lot of fast cars and having leapt aboard my mates Fireblade the other week which is pushing 140bhp+ i feckin' shat meself, it would despatch a Scoob in a straight line at least without breaking a sweat.
A Subaru with 500 bhp will do a 1/4 mile in the low 11's or so which is about the same as a modern 600 cc sportsbike.
I've drove a lot of fast cars and having leapt aboard my mates Fireblade the other week which is pushing 140bhp+ i feckin' shat meself, it would despatch a Scoob in a straight line at least without breaking a sweat.
15 July 2008, 12:45 PM
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Evening all just wondering what kind of power a classic or STI would need to be putting out to keep with a Honda CBR 600 just a debate in work me and a friend who owns a CBR 600 are having and before some of you say yes I know the bike is quicker but as the post says what kind of power would you need to keep with the bike.
I'd love to drive a 500bhp scooby to see what it's like. 
15 July 2008, 11:03 PM
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Evening all just wondering what kind of power a classic or STI would need to be putting out to keep with a Honda CBR 600 just a debate in work me and a friend who owns a CBR 600 are having and before some of you say yes I know the bike is quicker but as the post says what kind of power would you need to keep with the bike.
, I went to a bike track night at Cadwell Park recently and timed a few going round on the track. I have to say a large proportion are slower to the tune of 5-10 sec over a full ciruit lap.
15 July 2008, 11:11 PM
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Work out the power to weight ratios. That will give you straight line comparisons.
The key difference between Imprezas and bikes in the real world and/or on track is that you have to be a good rider to get the most out of a powerful bike, the impreza is far more forgiving to it's mediocre driver... I should know
The key difference between Imprezas and bikes in the real world and/or on track is that you have to be a good rider to get the most out of a powerful bike, the impreza is far more forgiving to it's mediocre driver... I should know
16 July 2008, 08:01 AM
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Due to 4 wheel drive and the grip of 4 wheels you should be able to corner faster in a scoob so round a track power to weight is not as big a difference as it would be in a straight line.
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16 July 2008, 01:31 PM
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I had a go against my brother when he was on his CBR 600 RR (about 3 weeks ago)
From a standing start and up to about 30 I was quicker, but then he just dissappeared (only up to about 50 before we had to stop for lights).
On country roads there is also not much in it, but when the roads get smooth and wide he is gone.
Brilliant fun these erm...'comparisions'
And no - I don't do these things regularlly, just curious.
From a standing start and up to about 30 I was quicker, but then he just dissappeared (only up to about 50 before we had to stop for lights).
On country roads there is also not much in it, but when the roads get smooth and wide he is gone.
Brilliant fun these erm...'comparisions'
And no - I don't do these things regularlly, just curious.
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16 July 2008, 02:30 PM
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If you watch video footage of the Nurburgring, a Scoob will easily catch up with and pass a bike through the twisty sections. On the straights and for initial acceleration, the bike definitely has the advantage, but not by as much as you might think. TBH, a lot will have to do with how good both drivers are in their choosen weapon.
16 July 2008, 05:23 PM
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ask any biker, any real biker, whats quick adn they will say in what situtation.
straight bike wins hands down unless you get to about 450-500bhp, twisties then car will walk it
straight bike wins hands down unless you get to about 450-500bhp, twisties then car will walk it
I think I would laugh at the CBR trying to keep up with me 
Here we go again 
Its fun to post
16 July 2008, 06:17 PM
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A while back I did a test with my mates varadero 1000cc-twin (I know its not a sports bike, but its still a very quick bike) and my car which had approx 380bhp.
The test was a straight drag race from standing start to a 1/4 mile finish line.
Off the line I had the jump, with him losing traction and wheeling a bit, then he would shoot past me as I'm changing gear, him being able to do nearly 55mph in first. From that point I would slowly catch him up as we head towards the 1/4 mile point.
It was very close usually within a bikes length. He won 2 out of the 3 races we had.
I would say a 500bhp impreza would beat a 600cc bike, not by much though.
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The test was a straight drag race from standing start to a 1/4 mile finish line.
Off the line I had the jump, with him losing traction and wheeling a bit, then he would shoot past me as I'm changing gear, him being able to do nearly 55mph in first. From that point I would slowly catch him up as we head towards the 1/4 mile point.
It was very close usually within a bikes length. He won 2 out of the 3 races we had.
I would say a 500bhp impreza would beat a 600cc bike, not by much though.
Andy
16 July 2008, 07:20 PM
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A while back I did a test with my mates varadero 1000cc-twin (I know its not a sports bike, but its still a very quick bike) and my car which had approx 380bhp.
The test was a straight drag race from standing start to a 1/4 mile finish line.
Off the line I had the jump, with him losing traction and wheeling a bit, then he would shoot past me as I'm changing gear, him being able to do nearly 55mph in first. From that point I would slowly catch him up as we head towards the 1/4 mile point.
It was very close usually within a bikes length. He won 2 out of the 3 races we had.
I would say a 500bhp impreza would beat a 600cc bike, not by much though.
Andy
The test was a straight drag race from standing start to a 1/4 mile finish line.
Off the line I had the jump, with him losing traction and wheeling a bit, then he would shoot past me as I'm changing gear, him being able to do nearly 55mph in first. From that point I would slowly catch him up as we head towards the 1/4 mile point.
It was very close usually within a bikes length. He won 2 out of the 3 races we had.
I would say a 500bhp impreza would beat a 600cc bike, not by much though.
Andy
Varadero aren’t a quick bike they have under 100bhp and weigh about 220kg. Think the 1/4 mile is over 13.5s. I would have thought a 380bhp Scooby would have had it.
If you failed against a Varadero with 380bhp never try against a modern sports bike
What’s the power to weight of a 500bhp classic vs. new CBR600
16 July 2008, 07:58 PM
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The new Varadero which weighs more than the older versions, does 0-60 in 4secs
The CBR600rr does it in 3.45 secs 0-60.
So not alot of difference.
A lardy Goldwing does a 1/4 mile in 13.2secs .
So, I think a Varadero is a little bit quicker.
This was a real test and just shows that you need a fair amount of power to keep up with big cc bikes or sport bikes
The CBR600rr does it in 3.45 secs 0-60.
So not alot of difference.
A lardy Goldwing does a 1/4 mile in 13.2secs .
So, I think a Varadero is a little bit quicker.
This was a real test and just shows that you need a fair amount of power to keep up with big cc bikes or sport bikes
16 July 2008, 09:35 PM
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Well if a Varadero is that quick enough said 
Sports bikes rule
(excluding wimps old farts, traffic and rain )
Is a spec C heavier than a classic? If so you have no chance.
Sports bikes rule
(excluding wimps old farts, traffic and rain )Is a spec C heavier than a classic? If so you have no chance.
18 July 2008, 06:31 AM
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If you watch video footage of the Nurburgring, a Scoob will easily catch up with and pass a bike through the twisty sections. On the straights and for initial acceleration, the bike definitely has the advantage, but not by as much as you might think. TBH, a lot will have to do with how good both drivers are in their choosen weapon.
18 July 2008, 03:28 PM
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I have a Gixer 6 and an UK Turbo 2000 (standard), doing the same trip from near Lincoln to Nuneaton generally takes less time in my car !!
When I'm on my bike I seem to be constantly overtaking and sit at slightly higher speeds on dual carriageways, but in my car I barely hammer it but still take less time
When I'm on my bike I seem to be constantly overtaking and sit at slightly higher speeds on dual carriageways, but in my car I barely hammer it but still take less time
18 July 2008, 03:52 PM
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standard car and bike straight road bike wins , bendy b road car wins and if you give him a nudge at start of race you win every time in the car lol
dont you guys watch top gear its been done on there 911 v sport bike round a track how long is a piece of string anyway lol
dont you guys watch top gear its been done on there 911 v sport bike round a track how long is a piece of string anyway lol
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20 July 2008, 07:27 PM
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my two mates you have zx6rs ones newer its an r reg the other a little older the newer one is just a road bike the other on get tracked.
when i had my jdm wrx at 1.2 bar on vf22 nothing else nether of them could pass me until im reaching red line in 3rd.
but i do know a guy who i see out and about in vr6 turbo mk3 golf at 450bhp will stay all the way to a 180 with an r1 lol that thing is one hell car
when i had my jdm wrx at 1.2 bar on vf22 nothing else nether of them could pass me until im reaching red line in 3rd.
but i do know a guy who i see out and about in vr6 turbo mk3 golf at 450bhp will stay all the way to a 180 with an r1 lol that thing is one hell car
21 July 2008, 09:52 PM
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If a 380bhp Scooby can't do the 1/4 in under 13.5sec the driver should be ashamed. With that power low 12s -high 11s should be in reach depending on weight.
21 July 2008, 10:09 PM
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this old one again, bike or car, which is faster?, i ride and drive, just enjoy whatever you drive or ride, and be very carefull on and in both, we're no safer cacooned in our cars as we are on our bikes