chocolate_o_brian

iTrader: (22)

sorry guys but im looking for wisdom re. a p/x deal.

right situation is the following. i have the scoob for sale outside at £3250. dude popped round earlier and got my number. just gimme a call back and said the following...

hes got a 99 s-plate scoob in green. 99k miles only 2 owners inc him. full ssh from main dealers etc. £££ on subs etc. decat, 18" wheels. really good condititon etc. in gargae now having clutch etc etc. loads of recipets.

the plus point. he would like to offer his car plus £500 my way for my scoob. his is still a uk turbo so no difference insurance wise. plus its got loads of stereo equ. i could sell etc.

whys he offering me such a good deal. well he really wants a red scoob and was quoted £1500ish for a repspray, so see's getting my car plus cash my way saves him money.

hopefully im gonna meet up tomorrow sometime and have a general chat, drive of the car to get a feel. same him with mine.

any good advice, general things to be careful of? he does sound weird on the phone, but i have seen his scoob and he waves etc etc, seems a genuine guy and i dont wanna take something like a funny voice against what could be a decent deal for me. i get some cashes to help pay bills and could make a tidy number on audio stuff to get by as im not a sub/dvd player kinda car guy.

cheers

andy

The Rig

iTrader: (13)

sounds dodgy to me, swapping a scoob for a scoob plus cash,because he wants a red one,why did he buy green then,not a close colour are they ?

craigyp

iTrader: (5)

very true!!!!!!!!
be careful m8
but on the other hand he could be tellin the truth
just be careful

serega

Well you own the same scoob, you should be able to tell a difference if something is wrong! Another good way to see if the engine is in a good nick pop down to a local subaru shop and ask to do a compression or leakdown test! It'll cost you extra 50 quid but at least you'll know for sure that nothing is wrong with the engine.
You can also ask them to check for codes, as it costs like 5 quid to plug the machine in and read the codes..
If everything checks out and the paperwork looks legit then swap V5's and off you go! : )

Dont just drive the car and swap them over, as it might sound great today but blow up tommorow. View it as purchasing another car..take your time.

chocolate_o_brian

iTrader: (22)

ive asked for a mate to come along and inspect for me too, just if hes not busy.

he does seem genuine, believe he bought the car as it was a one owner minter. to be fair, ive seen the car around scunny for a while and it doesnt make any weird noises etc, and if the service history is legit... best thing is to have an independant have a gander around first.

remembering too he probably realises that scoobs are worth **** all and he may rather fork out a few quid plus car than try sell it and buy a red one. a p/x for him maybe the best outcome.

il give the car a proper going over and if im not happy simply walk away.

he'd be pretty thick to try scam someone who live two streets away though

chocolate_o_brian

iTrader: (22)

sound advice, unfortunatley no scoob garage withing 30-40 miles... bummer

D.O.M

iTrader: (4)

What mods has his car got? If it's pretty near standard, I reckon it would be pointless doing the swap.
You seem to have spent a fair bit on yours, and I'm sure if you get the other one, you'll end up throwing more loot to mod the other scooby to get it how you want.
Question is, is £500 worth all the hassle, when in the end you'll end up with the same car, and will most probs spend that £500 on it anyway.

Ozzy_B

iTrader: (2)

Considering you just had your gearbox recon'd, and also the engine rebuilt by the previous owner, id be more inclined to stick with yours, it could be a risk of this green scoob needing either refreshed in the not to distant future. Now if he offered £1k that would be more tempting, and he would still be saving £500 on a respray.

Im in scunny quite often and see many scoobs, but cant remember seeing this one, do you have a pic of it?

chocolate_o_brian

iTrader: (22)

no not yet. i may take a couple today if me and this guy meet up.

i had a couple of thoughts last night about the deal. i was thinking of asking him for £750 in cash plus the car for the reasons like suspension mods and gearbox etc. that money would go a long way to clearing some smaller debts and i would generally have a better deal than less cash. whether he may/may not agree to this i dunno.

ive also hopefully got chris (flix on here) to help me go over it tomorrow, so obiovuly im gonna gander today and then if hes genuine he'll not mind it being checked over hpi'ed etc.

one thing i am gonna ask however, and this IS ONE condition of any deal... i get to swap my nur spec onto the green scoob i can handle losing the stiff suspension but i aint having a subaru impreza without my nur spec. his car is decatted so for the sake of one gasket and 4 bolts, he best agree or im walking away craig david stylee.

if i get a couple pics, il post em up...

chocolate_o_brian

iTrader: (22)

decided as chris wasnt available today id leave it until tomorrow to go look at the car. pretty much decided im gonna ask for £750 cash plus his car and im also gonna request that if we do a deal, to swap exhausts, as i cant live without my 3" girth nur spec-r. if its just the centre and back wont take long to swap over. again if the answers no, il walk away. i want this deal on my terms basically. as long as i have a nur spec i couldnt give two sh*ts if the cars pink purple brown or lime green

thinking ahead it will be wierd driving a scoob on standard suspension which i think he has.

does the above sound unreasonable, asking for the £750 and exhaust swap (he laso has a stainless system, but i want a nur spec *stamps foot*)

The Rig

iTrader: (13)

still a weird setup,from you and him.

why not sell something else if £750 is the kinda cash you need ?

your tv and p.c etc

RJM25R

iTrader: (1)

why no just do a deal on maybe selling the wheels on your car?

looks a risky deal for 500-750 quid?

Mikkel

Beware! You'll end up with a green scoob!

zs_phil

iTrader: (1)

i think you will regret it when your pulling away in the green one ,you have made your mark on the one you own and know what the history is and know of any niggles if any at all. what if you get the green one and in a weeks time or sooner something small or even worse major goes wrong with the car then you will either be using that 500-750 on repairing or breaking the car .
i know you need the money as ive seen your other thread but to try and earn abit of money can't you get on any type of benefits because you have no money coming in something and try to get c/tax benefit even though your lass work you might be entitled to have of it paid

hope things will look up soon

ps im sure ive seen you around near the go car area not sure on road as i sometimes visit scunny once a month not a regular

Mikkel

If it's a cash flow problem can u not just mothball the scoob? Take it off the road. Cancel insurance etc, no fuel bills, no road tax or MOT when due... but u still have the scoob when things look up.

bob r

iTrader: (46)

TBH Chocotate I think it is a ridiculous deal. Why would you want to swap yours for a crappy Green one and £750 can't really help you out, surely.

If you do need cash then sell yours for pound notes.

D.O.M

iTrader: (4)

Unless there is something seriously wrong with the red one, and the green one is a minter low mileager

miff13

From your other posts I gather that your not working at the moment and money is tight?

I don't see the point in swapping a car that's too expensive for you to run, with another car that's too expensive for you to run, it's a false economy. If I was you I'd sell my car for as much as I could realistically get for it, and run a cheap car for a while, or do without a car at all. There's no shame to having a run of the mill bog standard car; at your age I was driving a 1.4 Astra, and I didn't have a mortgage to pay etc!

Anyway whatever you decide, good luck.

chocolate_o_brian

iTrader: (22)

appreciate the advice guys.

sitaution is the following. i dont have the money i need to pay most of my bills. been to the c.a.b. and sorted out a contingency plan. you know prioroty bills etc.

long story short, with my mrs wages we can just about keep heads above water. small deficit which hopefully i can make up regards artwork etc.

with this car it could make me a small profit. why... because ive had my car for sale for £3250 (£3k on here). so if the car im looking at works out ok, im after around £750 my way and his car. now his car may not have a new gearbox suspension mods or anything, but whilst ive been trying to sell here pistonheads etc, ive not had one serious offer. all over priced bangers like vectras and escorts off ebay etc.

so if the car seems all well and good (remembering only has two owners from new 10 years ago - recent clutch lots of history etc - which il fine tooth comb through) the £750 would be more than what id get from these other idots time wasting me on p.h.'s etc. also il check out his claim that there is £££ worth of ice in the car. im not big on this, but could again sell for a profit. il see how desperate he is to buy my car.

best thing is i have someone level headed and knowledgeable coming along with me. if its a bum deal, he will say so.

the £££ my way will pay off the little debts which will save me loads of interest and mean i dont have half as many letters to worte off to companies explaining my financial difficulties. insurance wont be any more as its the same car. ive gone through every single aspect, even if i kept it for 6 months and decided to sell, i could seel it for under £3k and not be out of pocket if i haggle a good deal today. plus my cars got more miles (which joe ******** timewaster wont like, and has mods which timewasters arent taking into consideration). if this dude knows anything about cars, he will get a decent deal, whereas i will get a more sellable car... does that make sense?

ive also messaged him today to arrange a meeting about 3.30, and told chris to bring his tools

again it would be nice to keep a scoob, but if its not 100% on my terms, the guy will simply have to look elsewhere as i wont be interested. admittedly i know ive made my mark on this one, and i would like to/may indeed end up keeping it, but the money from today could really help me short term and long term with respects to debts and managing them. i dont really wanna go into details about my incomings and outgoings as its private, but i hope you can respect that.

keep it coming gents... all appreciated

chocolate_o_brian

iTrader: (22)

with regards to sorning the current scoob, im not in the same financial boat as some on here, in that i dont have a garage or anywhere to store the car. it makes more sense to me to sell something thats depreciating like a brick now rather than keep it in hiding for 6-12-24 months and let it rot. i couldnt do that, as then i have to find money to buy and insure another car... that scenario would seem backwards to me.

Mikkel

I see, obviously I don't know your personal situation until you tell me In that case, sell it and buy a cheap runabout until you are back on your feet. Don't trade the problem into another colour.

bish667

iTrader: (1)

He is trying to sell it tho but nobody is buying it.

Mikkel

How about breaking it then? Must be a few grand in that. The market for fuel guzzling performance cars is dire at the moment.

chocolate_o_brian

iTrader: (22)

first responce answered that question unforuntatley. i dont have a space or safe area to break and store the car. plus i would need to break, sell and buy another car within the day because as im under 25 im unable to drive or borrow other peopels cars on my insurance.

if i had a garage or an understanding fiancee the car would be in pieces now and probably broken knowing my lack of technical nouse.

StickyMicky

£500 is not a lot of cash, it will be gone in a few weeks and then what will you do?

you will be stuck with a green scoob, worth less then the one you had?

chocolate_o_brian

iTrader: (22)

but if i did do a deal today, the money my way would cover things like outstanding store cards etc, meaning i may only have a couple of "i cant afford to pay you money every month" letters to a couple of companies instead of quite a few more.

if i sell the scoob totally for just cash, i would still be £1000s short to clear my debts such as loand/credit card so it wouldnt make a difference.

the way im trying to think about it is swapping a now worthless car for another one. youve seen the market yourself and my car isnt worth what it should be. i couldnt bring myself to sell it for the offers ive recieved thus far, and all the px offers ive had have been for straight swaps...

StickyMicky

how about flogging your car for less cash then its worth, just to help get rid of it?

its the way i always sell cars, rather then mess about with time wasters, i deliberately under value them by a decent amount, just to stop messing about?

if you have had offers, you might as well accept the best one, if it brings in more cash, then having to do the whole thing all over again a few months down the line with a green scoob?

chocolate_o_brian

iTrader: (22)

i think £3000 for my scoob considering the condition and money spent on it id under valueing it, yest im still getting ******** offers and nobody has said "yeah ok il come view and all being well heres £3k".

the money ive spent on it keeping it in a condition im happy with and the modifications ive done, i absolutley refuse to go under the above price. look on pistonheads etc and there isnt another my99 red classic cheaper than mine.

air.mech23

Wouldnt it be better to sell it and at least have some money to pay what you need to?

I cant see the logic in doing the deal to get just £750 and then still being stuck with the same car to possibly have the same situation a few months down the line.

chocolate_o_brian

iTrader: (22)

because nobody has offered to buy it, besides on desory offer and loads of px's to the value of the car. this is the best of the offers ive had...