finalzero

Another for me.. seems the world is out to get me right now.

Got Road Tax renewal reminder and just realised something on the bloody form:

Validation Character: G

Make: Subaru
Engine Capacity/CO2: 326 GK/M
Tax Class: Petrol Car

6 Months: £165.00
12 Months: £300.00

Something is not right, am I being put in the same tax band as car registered after 2004 or has it all changed and we are all getting shafted?

I was about to pay it and then spotted the above so need to find out what the right figures are.

Silver Scooby Sport

iTrader: (15)

What is the date of registration of the car ?

I think the line drawn is March 2001 onwards and not model. (classic/newage) one of the guys over her has a P1 on a Y plate and he has the extra to pay as well.
It should be model if anything in my opinion.... bunch of robbers.

ukdave

All info and car tax calculator here mate

Road tax - Parker's

Imprezive_52

Just checked out that link to Parkers. . . .

That sucks!
Looks like i'll be paying a tad (by a tad a mean double) more from next year, and for what!?

Oh well, it's all in the name of motoring

bish667

iTrader: (1)

I dont get it!!!

On the Parkers road tax guide(link posted above), it states:

[If your car was registered before the 1st March 2001 then car tax is based only on the engine size, with one rate for engine sizes up to and including 1549cc and one for engines over 1549cc]


I put in an impreza saloon (93-01) turbo 2000, theres no option for WRX or STi, these guides appear to be only for UK cars.
It then gives the dates of registration:
7 Jun 1999 - 1 Mar 2001
1 Mar 2001 – 24 May 2001
WHAT ABOUT CARS UP TO 7 JUN 1999 as i have chosen the selection for a car registered from 1993 onwards, not 1999 onwards. Dumb *****.

Can anyone explain.
Not looking forward to the road tax reminder in a few months time

Has anyone got a 97sti renewal for tax since these new changes so I know what to expect?
Is it also dependent on when it was imported?
Surely it is from when it was registered at production as that is what they base UK cars on, or if im getting charged rates as if my car was registered after 2001 I want my car to be worth a 2001+ when i sell as that is what they think my car is??? They cant have it both ways.

finalzero

My car was registered in August 2007, when it arrived in the UK so that means my tax is based on CO2 Emissions.. which is 326 G/KM.. nuts

D.O.M

iTrader: (4)

Just checked mine out on parkers and its double...not happy all
What is meant by First Year Rate?

The Chief

I think its starting to hit home now, a friend of mine has just had his renewal of over 400 quid - he can afford it but lets say he's not a happy bunny.

WR1 Bro

Petrol in the blood comes with a premium...

As Scoobycuddles pointed out... petrol is still far cheaper than say, lager.

bish667

iTrader: (1)

thats why i dont care about the price of petrol yet cos its still cheaper than beer.

finalzero

Petrol doesn't bother me at the moment because I am getting my miles for the price I pay i.e I don't do too many miles (10 to work and back) plus say another 30 at the weekend from some b road blasts but thats it.

But the road tax is a joke, I contacted IM Group and it appears as they have no records of grey imports anymore my car has been banded based on the registration date i.e in the same category as an 07 WRX STi but even that has lower CO2 than my car.

Nuts but I am gonna pay it as I am not parting with the scooby just yet.

bish667

iTrader: (1)

I dont think its fair that they can do this. As its a classic shape it cant be registered after 2001 as that is when the new shape came out.
They should do it from the production date as this would be fairer. But cant say they would be interested in getting less money for nothing would they.

Silver Scooby Sport

iTrader: (15)

I know I've put date of registration but is it that or year of manufacture because that could make a big difference ?

bish667

iTrader: (1)

It would make more sense to be date of manufacture but from the looks of things and other people with classics getting charged more it seems to be date of registration in the UK. I personally wouldn't mind paying road tax if the roads were actually good and not potholes and bumps everywhere.

bish667

iTrader: (1)

anyone know who the best person to write and complain to about this?

hux309

This has me worried now, my car is a pre 95 import but was registered in late 2006, i did have to renew end of march and i paid £180.

Im hoping that because it's a pre 95 car it won't have emmisions data so i'll be charged according to engine size, least that's what it said on the renewal form.

Can anyone post up their renewal on a pre 95 scooby for us late registered of course.

bish667

iTrader: (1)

Maybe im jumping to conclusions from what other people are saying but im in the same boat,i have a 97sti but it was imported november 2007 so i hope it is based on just the size of the engine.
my renewal is not until June.

pslewis

I 'think' it is date of registration in this country?

It's the only absolute, solid, date the tax authorities have ... I'm not too sure whether they care what the date of manufacture is for the very small number of imports which will get clobbered.

It's a real bummer if, say, you have a 95 WRX - imported in 2001 - worth about £2000 now and having to pay £400+ a year in car tax ....... the value of that car has just taken a massive hit

I could be wrong, however.

Puddle Jumper

If you look in your V5 log book under vehicle details there should be two dates. The first one is the date of first registration, i.e. when it was first registered in whatever country it was sold in (if known). The second one is date of first registration in the UK. If its not a brand new import car the two dates should be different. In this case first registration is sometime in 2000, and first registration in UK is (I'm guessing) sometime recently. Its the first date they go on, and if the first registered date is post 1 March 2001 for a MY00 car its been registered wrong with DVLA, and you end up paying the higher tax.

My MY00 WRX RA was first registered 1 March 2000 (in Japan), and first registered in the UK in October 2006. So I only have to pay the lower tax rate. If it was me, I would take it up with DVLA Swansea and see if they will ammend your V5 logbook.

hux309

Aah good this must be the case as my v5 shows as first registered in 1994.

Phew!!!!

Lisawrx

iTrader: (1)

By this it would appear, we're fooked. Both dates show, date of first registration, and date of first registration in the UK as 2003. (our car is an import). It does have a special note on the front saying it was registered/used overseas, declared manufactured in 1994. Whether that makes a difference, I don't know.

phil_wrx

iTrader: (2)

mine is supposed to be this -


Date of Registration 6 Months 12 Months Band
1 Jan 2003 – 1 May 2005 £115.50 £210.00 F

Rates effective from March 2009

Date of Registration 6 Months 12 Months Band
1 Jan 2003 – 1 May 2005 £165.00 £300.00 K

Rates effective from March 2010

Date of Registration 6 Months 12 Months Band
1 Jan 2003 – 1 May 2005 £170.50 £310.00 K

car gets new tax in jan 2009 so pay same as this year so it aint too bad.

what is funny is that a neighbour has a fiat multipla and from march 2010 his tax will be £10 less than mine

finalzero

I contacted DVLA customer services, the chap on the line was very helpful and advised me to contact Subaru UK however as I stated this didn't result in anything.

My V5 shows first registered day as 2000 and first registered in the UK in August 2007 so I will query this with the DVLA tomorrow and hopefully get this resolved!

340BHP-WRX

iTrader: (6)

Just looked at my V5 for my classic and it says Date of first registration is 2004 and Date of first registration in the UK is 2004,Declared manufactured is 1996.

Just checked DVLA site to tax online and it says £101.75 for 6 months.

Don't think we've got anything to worry about

Lisawrx

iTrader: (1)

Says the same for ours at the moment, still a bit concerned until the next bill comes in.

Just to add, robbing *****. Everyone needs to vent their spleen now and then.

340BHP-WRX

iTrader: (6)

Well,if mine did come up at £400 I wouldn't be paying it

pslewis

And you will have your car crushed

Lisawrx

iTrader: (1)

Nor would I, couldn't afford it. TBH, Pete sort of got to the point, it's a relatively old car, and if we sold it, it wouldn't get anywhere near what's been spent on it. Not sure what we'd do if we did get hit for this.

340BHP-WRX

iTrader: (6)

Not quite true !

IF I was to get caught,the car would be impounded,which I then would have to pay a fine to get the car back or then it would be crushed.

Someone I know recently got caught with no tax,insurance or mot.

£150 fine and 6 points !!

pslewis

Also, not quite true ......

You have to pay all the unpaid tax as well ..... so, it's simply not worth it - unless you de-register it ... so, it doesn't belong to anyone ... like the pikeys do.