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Old 22 February 2008, 10:49 AM
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i have been toying with the idea of lowering my scooby what do you think lower it or not?

if yes what would be a good set up should i use springs or the whole lot and what sort of money should i be looking to spend.

and where is a good place to get them from and also a front splitter

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Old 22 February 2008, 10:54 AM
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What year / model of car do you have
Old 22 February 2008, 10:58 AM
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What year / model of car do you have
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Old 22 February 2008, 10:59 AM
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Lower looks good but it all depends on how much you want to spend.
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99T STI classic well not looking to spend to much but i know you pay for what you get so i dont want cheap rubbish
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eibach lowering springs is the way to go then
Old 22 February 2008, 11:24 AM
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Do it!
Don't forget to factor 4 wheel alignment into the price.

I had the eibach coilovers fitted recently, but I got them at a good price. Loads of people on here find that Prodrive springs and good 4 wheel alignment totally transforms the car. Having an STi you'll have firmer struts anyway (correct me if i'm wrong)
Old 22 February 2008, 11:52 AM
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mines lowered with a p1 splitter and i have had to have the splitter fixed 3 times in 2 months at £150 a shot,im now toying with the idea of having the suspension raised again
Old 22 February 2008, 11:57 AM
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i fitted a set of eibach springs to mine and it didnt lower it at all! replaced them with h&r springs, much better job.
car feels exactly the same but a lot lower
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Having an STi you'll have firmer struts anyway (correct me if i'm wrong)

you are right i do have firmer sturts so you reckon i would be ok with the springs?

where can i get prodrive ones from?
Old 22 February 2008, 01:11 PM
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Eibach springs will do the job perfectly. Get some Whiteline Anti Roll bars + drop links fitted and your geometry setup.

The above will make your STi a seriously quick machine on the twisty stuff. Lowering too much is a bad idea on these car's, can put extra stress on ball joints etc.

Speak to 911 on here, he has a wealth of experience regarding classic suspension setups
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Dont lower it too far it can actually have an adverse affect on the handling characteristics of the car. Whereas you would be lowering the centre of gravity (good) it would also be lowering the roll centre (bad) and make it more prone to roll and depending on the angles of the front versus rear it may make it understeer badly.

Best to get sound advice before doing it else you may be disappointed.
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My scooby is on its **** and all the better for it!!!!
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Mine is lowered 30mm with Tien springs (I have the spring rates somewhere) with standard STI shocks and it handles fantastic and ride is good.
Looks much better too Pic in profile if you want to take a look.
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i remember back in june last year when i understeered into a kerb after taking a corner like a ********. i decided there and then the suspension needed updating.

so....

by chance on here there was a guy selling a set of brand new kyb adjustable gas shocks he'd got on a group buy and didnt want.

so £350 sealed them. then decided on which springs to go for. scoobyparts were doing a special offer on eibachs for the classic @ £140 so that was my mind made up. but then i also saw they were doing an offer on whiteline droplinks, so i ended up buying front and rear steel ones (alloy ones look better admittedly, but they both do the same job), for about £45 front £45 rear.

add about £100 to jase @ scoobybits for fitting everything and a £65 geometry set up from richtoy in winterton and she was good to go.

only thing im not 100% with is the lowering. the back is definatley lower, but the front not so much. id like it a bit lower (5-10mm back, 15mm front) but on 17" wheels its expected i guess.

thinking of upgrading to 18" wheels but unsure of what it will do to the handling.

totally depends what you wanna spend ££?

coilovers are good and i sometime wish id gone that route, maybe on my next car.
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Originally Posted by andyseston
i have been toying with the idea of lowering my scooby what do you think lower it or not?

if yes what would be a good set up should i use springs or the whole lot and what sort of money should i be looking to spend.

and where is a good place to get them from and also a front splitter

cheers
dont go to low mate.you know what sh*t fen roads are like
Old 23 February 2008, 11:21 AM
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I've got eibach springs on my terzo(which is just a UK turbo) and they go pretty well with the standard shocks so I would imagine they would be perfect with an Sti. I reckon they've lowered the car maybe 20mm, but I go for handling as opposed to looks. The mistake people make is thinkin lowering automatically has the car handling better, which is most cases is a load of sh*te.

Lowering keeps the centre of gravity down and firmer springs reduce roll and make the car change direction quicker, making the car sit flat through the corners and making best use of the grip of all 4 tyres, as the more a car rolls, the more weight is on the 2 tyres that the car is leaning towards, and in extreme cases the inside 2 arent really doing much for grip.

The downside is that on britains twisty A and B roads which have big changes in height and camber the suspension is too stiff and just bounces over bumps etc and you dont have much grip because the tyres arent in contact with the road as much as a car with a softer suspension setup. hence why rally cars dont sit scraping the ground unless on a smooth tarmac stage.

Its just common sense at the end of the day, obviously touring cars and the like are great with a stiff setup and sitting very low, because its the best setup for track but not very good on the road.

This is all IMHO of course. hope this helps

Alan
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