stringostar

has anyone on here got a superchip fitted? thinking of having one, but wanna do my homework first.. wanna know if they are any good, cheap etc etc

corradoboy

Superchips have a bit of a bad rep. In the past they were guilty of just crudely maximizing all the possibilities and leaving no tolerances for mechanical sympathy. A bespoke remap by an experienced and trusted ECUTEK mapper will always be the safer option, but will be marginally more expensive. No doubt some will post saying they've had a Superchip and it was fine, but many more post on here about the quality of work by people like Andy F, Bob Rawle, Pat Herbourn and others. Allied to a few decent mods such as a full decat you will get a much more reliable and dependable result.

stringostar

hey up c/boy!!! i have full decat and s/s system... looking for cheap alternative than ecutek or a piggy back system... not looking for massive performance upgrade, just something to add to the mods what have been done..

thinking of well lane, been before for a superchip and they were pretty good..

corradoboy

Hmm, your choice, but neither the product, nor the company have ever impressed me.

In no particular order, I'd trust...

Richard Bulmer @ Carnetix (or whatever his place next door is called)
Rick @ RE Motorsports
Howard @ HDC Subaru
TSL
Prosport
Roger Clarke
Bob Rawle
API Engines
Pat Herbourn @ Scoobyclinic
Andy F @ Andrew Forest Performance

stringostar

what would be the cheapest remap then... like i said, dont want super performance, just something to finish off the mod list... also the cheapest option will suit. any ideas?

corradoboy

The choice is yours. Do some ringing around for advice and prices, but remember, the cheapest might not be the cheapest in the long run. If a crude generic remap starts causing problems the expense could soon outweigh a more expensive bespoke map. Every car is different and reacts differently to mods and mapping. I have 2 mates with 06 Hawkeye's who've both fitted decats over the PPP's. One runs fine, sounds amazing and goes pretty quick, although it would no doubt be quicker if it were map'd to suit the mods. The other which I drove yesterday to see how it was running was spiking on boost and overwhelming the injectors, leading the AFR to cut power and revert to limp with an ECU warning light. The ECU is adaptive and learns from each persons driving style and habits, the fuel and other variables, so two cars which should be near identical can be running on wildly different ECU parameters. This is where my knowlege runs out, so do your research well, and don't risk the hassle and expense of a cheap map.

stringostar

mines palying up at minute.
i have a dawes valve in the car, and shes boosting at 1.1 bar, on a standard turbo. she sometimes momentarily cuts out when ya have ya foot planted... other times tho she is fine... i need to turn down the boost and see what happens then.. i have phoned AET bout a remap, its gonna cost bout 500 quid.. where a superchip is half that. i dunno.. not in any rush at minute

corradoboy

You gets what you pays for I'm afraid. As an example, my Furby was map'd by Jabbasport and I requested that they run it a little lean and bring the boost in progressively at the bottom end to reduce sooting and keep it a bit tame for the learners I teach in it. I also asked them to taper off the power at the top end to protect the turbo, both of which they did brilliantly and I am more than happy with the £425 it cost me. I could have bought a plug-in tuning box off eBay, but it would have had no protection for the engine and been a very crude power delivery.

stringostar

yeah been looking on e bay.. bought some laptop software for a 5er, to connect to the ECU. just need an obd cable now to connect laptop to diagnostic port in carm but cant find 1

corradoboy

Be very careful what you do. There are hundreds of variable parameters and you can cause a whole heap of trouble if you do not know what you are doing. There's a good reason why experienced mappers can charge what they do.

stringostar

i also got my eye on a standard ecu on eaby, just in case!

corradoboy

API might do you a deal on an engine too

stringostar

i can plug it in for a fiver, and if i dont feel comfy pressing buttons, then i wont! good job am a mechanic! might have to call on me skills one day, if the engine goes pop

RICH S202

You are in danger of doing real damage here. Forget your DIY mapping, you dont want to mess with that. Get the car mapped by one of the companies mentioned above and forget Superchips. Chipping is a way of fooling your ECU. Mapping is a way of re-programming it, safely and efficiently.
You have a standard bottom end on a UK Turbo and its going to break if you push it any more. The re-map will just bring together the breathing mods you have done so far.

GC8

Don't.

Alan MaC

Heard nothing but bad things about Superchips/Scoobs.

Guy at work rang up Superchips to ask about his Scoob & a Superchip.

The person @ the other end of the phone said, they didn't have a lot of success chipping Scoobs.

An honest person??

Ask around, (as you are) NOT A GOOD SCHEME.

Good Luck.


Alan MaC

stringostar

cheers guys... gonna save up and go with ECUTEK

Maz

iTrader: (34)

Ditto. Aside from the crudeness it's a rip off for basically a bleed valve and fuel cut defencer. No mapping is included whatsoever generic or otherwise. Depending on how much boost you are running your air to fuel ratio will be on the limit.