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Old 07 December 2007, 03:21 AM
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Default silicone hosing.... advice :)

got a set of autobahn88 coolant hoses, and just recived a set of samco hoses from a guy on here to cover the intercooler and something else.

now what id like to do in continuation of spliffing up my engine bay, is buy some more silicone hose for the various small thinner pipework.

has anyone any adive on this regards....
  • size ie width of hose and depth of silicone (3mm-5mm etc etc)
  • what sort of temperature tolerance it needs for the little piddily pipework all round the engine bay
  • what i can actually replace with silicone to make it look better
  • any other advice so as not to f**k things up.
engine wise im very much a novice as many of you know, and id like to replace as much as possible with nice blue hosing to go with what i have.

any pics welcome to as inspiration.

my scoobs a v5/6 my99 uk classic. will add a pic later to show what i have already.
Old 07 December 2007, 05:02 PM
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bttt

as i would like to do mine aswell
Old 07 December 2007, 06:01 PM
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On my newage I bought about 3m of each 3, 4 and 5mm and just got cracking. The only thing that is worth checking is that you transfer any restrictors and one-way valves in the hoses as you do it. Also some bits have flow directions on arrows, make sure you note which way round they go.

The rule I used for which cables was, if it's rubber it can be silicon.



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just curious as you can buy silicone hosing from ebay etc, and im not sure on what sort of temperatures it needs to with stand thats all.
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i just bought whatever and bunged it on all over the place lol

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thats what id like to get mine like. as i have a red car, blue hoses contrast when the bonnets up. im not after a show winning engine bay, i just like to replace what i can, but im not sure what thickness hose to use... or where to get good quality sh*t from either.
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hi. i bought mine from hear take a look. Samco silicone 3mm vacuum hose on eBay, also Engine Tuning Parts, Performance Tuning Parts, Car Tuning Styling, Cars, Parts Vehicles (end time 04-Nov-07 12:45:59 GMT)
cheapest i found, it can also withstand temperatures of upto 200 degrees centigrade
hope i'm being helpful
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Originally Posted by chocolate_o_brian
just curious as you can buy silicone hosing from ebay etc, and im not sure on what sort of temperatures it needs to with stand thats all.
Most of the thinner vacuum hose is not exposed to any sort of extreme temperatures directly. I used SAMCO stuff as it wasn't much dearer than the ebay stuff, and silicon should have better heat tolerance than rubber. I've run the car with oil and water in the 90's after some spirited driving and never had a problem.
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Originally Posted by mike799
hi. i bought mine from hear take a look. Samco silicone 3mm vacuum hose on eBay, also Engine Tuning Parts, Performance Tuning Parts, Car Tuning Styling, Cars, Parts Vehicles (end time 04-Nov-07 12:45:59 GMT)
cheapest i found, it can also withstand temperatures of upto 200 degrees centigrade
hope i'm being helpful

excellent, just need to figure out what internal bore i need and wall thickness. any suggestions or do you need several sizes?
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Originally Posted by StickyMicky
i just bought whatever and bunged it on all over the place lol

now that's what you call bling the engine bay,nice
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Originally Posted by chocolate_o_brian
excellent, just need to figure out what internal bore i need and wall thickness. any suggestions or do you need several sizes?
I bought 3m each of 3mm, 4mm and 5mm and that didn't leave me much left over, but it was enough to do the washer hoses and the overflow into expansion tank.

Next is power steering kit and some other bits.
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Originally Posted by chocolate_o_brian
excellent, just need to figure out what internal bore i need and wall thickness. any suggestions or do you need several sizes?
i've been told by a few people on hear you will need 3mm & 5mm which will cover almost most parts [vac pipes washer pipes etc]
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Originally Posted by JonMc
I bought 3m each of 3mm, 4mm and 5mm and that didn't leave me much left over, but it was enough to do the washer hoses and the overflow into expansion tank.

Next is power steering kit and some other bits.
excellent, what wall thickness was that? 2mm??

(il note it down for when ive got the pennies)
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this is my uber impressive start thus far






ok, so when i fitted the coolant set, i had these two left over.... where do they go





someone help me, il be uber grateful
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heres a piccy of mine. not quite finished yet. but soon
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Originally Posted by chocolate_o_brian
excellent, what wall thickness was that? 2mm??

(il note it down for when ive got the pennies)
It was standard SAMCO stuff, looked about 2mm thick.
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Originally Posted by StickyMicky
i just bought whatever and bunged it on all over the place lol

hi.did you buy the coolant hose kit,if so when you fitted the coolant hoses did you have any hoses left,as i seem to have 2 hoses left which i can't find a home for.
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Originally Posted by chocolate_o_brian
ok, so when i fitted the coolant set, i had these two left over.... where do they go





someone help me, il be uber grateful
They'll be for somewhere at the back of the engine where you can's see them unless the car is off the ground, or the engine out, most likely.
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how did you find the fitting and quality of the autobahn pipe's mr o'brien ????

i was thinking of ordering a full 21 piece kit for my07 sti,but couldnt find any feedback regarding quality

cheers marcus
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Originally Posted by ethanrob
how did you find the fitting and quality of the autobahn pipe's mr o'brien ????

i was thinking of ordering a full 21 piece kit for my07 sti,but couldnt find any feedback regarding quality

cheers marcus
admittedly the quality isnt that of samco, but for the price, its an excellent bit of kit. just have to cut the hoses down slightly for perfect fitment.

i would recommend them to say theyre about 1/2 price of samco.

im gonna have a mixture of autobahn88 and samco, as i got the stuff when it was going cheap on the off chance. not had any issues with the autobahn stuff as of yet and had the coolant set fitted about 2 weeks.

andy
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my cars heinz 57.

loads of makes on my car. from japan to the uk
i needed certain sizes, & red is quite hard to get
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Originally Posted by dabow
my cars heinz 57.

loads of makes on my car. from japan to the uk
i needed certain sizes, & red is quite hard to get
thats it, as i wanted everything one colour. dont mind another couple logos underneath the engine bay. not as if either brand are cheapo halfords sh*te or that "ripspeed" garbage

as said was the right price at the right time
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The Samco's will be a different shade of blue. Not that it matters though.

Looking good, Andy.
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When i changed my coolant hoses i had those 2 that you got left. the bendy hose replaces the one close to your idle control and the other hose is above the inlet manifold close to where your induction hose goes under (bit hard to explain and dont think ive got any pics), thats providing you got the right hose set for your car mind
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also i just noticed you replaced a hose to your carbon cannister,did that come in the coolant set? If its the hose im thinking of im sure i used that to go from the rad to the overflow, i could be wrong though
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Originally Posted by davesti330
also i just noticed you replaced a hose to your carbon cannister,did that come in the coolant set? If its the hose im thinking of im sure i used that to go from the rad to the overflow, i could be wrong though
I've got this nagging doubt that silicone tube isn't normally too healthy around Petrol/diesel etc. (it grows/weakens...) Maybe the under-the-bonnet stuff is specially formulated. However, I've only seen coolant and turbo hose sets.

It might be worth swapping that connection to the carbon canister back.

Still, I could be wrong....

J.
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Originally Posted by vindaloo
I've got this nagging doubt that silicone tube isn't normally too healthy around Petrol/diesel etc. (it grows/weakens...) Maybe the under-the-bonnet stuff is specially formulated. However, I've only seen coolant and turbo hose sets.

It might be worth swapping that connection to the carbon canister back.

Still, I could be wrong....

J.
can you point it out to me please?

also i just noticed you replaced a hose to your carbon cannister,did that come in the coolant set? If its the hose im thinking of im sure i used that to go from the rad to the overflow, i could be wrong though
can you show me where you mean on my pic?


When i changed my coolant hoses i had those 2 that you got left. the bendy hose replaces the one close to your idle control and the other hose is above the inlet manifold close to where your induction hose goes under (bit hard to explain and dont think ive got any pics), thats providing you got the right hose set for your car mind
can you take a pic dave and show me this too. please
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struggling to put the pics up, how do u do it???

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struggling to put the pics up, how do u do it???
Go a photobucket account (Image hosting, free photo sharing & video sharing at Photobucket) or similar and then load up the pics and stick the link in a thread.
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The bendy hose is to the right of the intercooler hose.. the straight hose is to the right of the coolant tank and the other hose is the 1 going from the rad to the bottle behind the n/s headlight [IMG][/IMG]



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