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Old 30 September 2007, 07:06 PM
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Are people who have 350bhp happy or do you want more. im soon to upgrade my sti 2004 and wonder if going to 400bhp would be to much for just road use.
Old 30 September 2007, 07:17 PM
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i think you all ways want more lol

you get use to the power after a bit.

with mine, i run it on low boost most of the time (1bar) and every now and then when i havent got the mrs and little one in the car and want some fun, i run the high boost (1.5 bar ish)

so then it feels like a new car again :-)
Old 30 September 2007, 07:29 PM
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I now do the same, run 1bar low boost most of the time, but when I get back in the car after the wife has used it, she has hit that demister button and were back on high boost again (1.5bar)

I had the boost swap done for her as well.

As for the answer to the question, 350hp is fast enough but it needs to come in sooner and smoother on my car.
Old 30 September 2007, 07:56 PM
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just gone 450bhp plus !
Old 30 September 2007, 07:58 PM
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i was happy..........but did go for more
Old 30 September 2007, 08:13 PM
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I always compare car modding to Bodybuilders and Anorexics.
Never happy with what they have got.

I have 340 and always dream of more power.
I am happy with my biceps though.
Old 30 September 2007, 09:21 PM
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Default Hmmmm !

It would depend on how it delivered that 400 bhp.
If you need a huge laggy turbo, then NO !

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P.S. Have toyed with the idea of a 50 bhp NOS kit, to keep a nice small turbo, but have the 400 bhp I think I'd like to have.... for the track obviously.
Old 30 September 2007, 10:27 PM
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y is it that people dont like lagy turbos my one doesnt come in until after 5k but when it does you just feed it gears its only take offs that are wick unless u do a bungy startbut i had it down the 1/4mile today for the first time doing a bungy start and pulled of a 12.81 sec which won me the fastest car of the day trophy was well happy but i need to pratice my starts could maby get a late 11 its around 380 but want more power lol out of intrest wot would a standard sti do the 1/4 mile in??
Old 30 September 2007, 10:32 PM
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Power corrupts

and

Absolute power corrupts....................absolutely!!

You always want more, but probably don't need it.

I have 336bhp, but now want 380 to 400.
Old 30 September 2007, 10:45 PM
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got around 360bhp 330lbft and i can have as much fun in my moms 1.25 ford fiesta as i do in the scooby its only as fast or fun as you want it to be its not the power its the way you play
Old 30 September 2007, 11:01 PM
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350/350 here and more than happy, well....................
Old 30 September 2007, 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by gti00eater
y is it that people dont like lagy turbos my one doesnt come in until after 5k but when it does you just feed it gears its only take offs that are wick unless u do a bungy startbut i had it down the 1/4mile today for the first time doing a bungy start and pulled of a 12.81 sec which won me the fastest car of the day trophy was well happy but i need to pratice my starts could maby get a late 11 its around 380 but want more power lol out of intrest wot would a standard sti do the 1/4 mile in??
Because a laggy car is a pain in the **** for day to day driving
Old 30 September 2007, 11:54 PM
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Always thought my 349 was enough, but now I'm not so sure. I'm of the persuasion that I need to learn to drive it better though, rather than just throwing more cash at getting more horses out of it.
It's not what you've got, it's how you use it that counts
Old 30 September 2007, 11:56 PM
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338bhp and still getting used to it, unfortunatly im at the limit of the engine in my my99 uk turbo, so next plan,,,,,,,,, 2.5 sc450 lol


so thats a yeah, i want more power lol
Old 01 October 2007, 12:51 AM
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I am aiming for 415/400 on my next scooby (shopping list awaiting) - I think that should be it.

I will definitely be going for two stage boost as some people have done, that way I can keep the car relatively tame most of the time and switch boost settings when I need go a bit manic.
Old 01 October 2007, 12:32 PM
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360/330 and want more...
Old 01 October 2007, 12:37 PM
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I'm happy enough with 301 bhp ! TD04 Hybrid on a bug WRX. It's very responsive and low spooling though, so that suits all the town driving I do very well.

Maybe I'm just easy pleased !
Old 01 October 2007, 12:45 PM
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350 in a classic would be great. 350 in a newage is **** poor. The newage is just too lardy and needs big ponies to make it move like it should.

I dont know how much power i have, guessing 350 ish and i know its nowhere near enough.
Old 01 October 2007, 12:51 PM
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360/390 and more than happy. I don't think any more would be useful on the road to be honest and certainly not on the standard STi handling kit.
Old 01 October 2007, 12:57 PM
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Smile Happy ?

Im happy now but i have gone in and through many stages and now the next one is not in my reach ive gone from 310 bhp-340-360-405-420-now im at 460 trq and 440 bhp but next levell is open cheque book so ill stop here lol


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Originally Posted by frayz
350 in a classic would be great. 350 in a newage is **** poor. The newage is just too lardy and needs big ponies to make it move like it should.

I dont know how much power i have, guessing 350 ish and i know its nowhere near enough.
You're running a 20g right? You should have around 380bhp surely?
Old 01 October 2007, 06:34 PM
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If it's a road car then response and low lag are key to enjoying the extra power. 2 cars can have 400 but the one that has the 'get up and go' with little throttle, will feel much more fun. I'm not convinced at big turbos on 2.0ltrs to get more than 350, without losing driveability. People say you drive around it but when you cruise at 70 on the motorway and a gap opens, you don't want to wait 2 seconds to get boost or have to change down.

I think a 2.5 is what you need for effortless road work with a bigish turbo.

And 350 on the road, well it's too much! Any stretch where you can get it into the 'zone' will lose your license or scare the **** out of other road users. An overtake at 60mph will be a flick to third (in a classic) and you'll be past them doing 90 in a few seconds and probably 110 by the end of it. If someone pulls out during a convoy overtake, you'll need your wits about you to avoid rear ending them (which will be your fault).

The roads down sarf are too crowded and too heavily policed to enjoy the performance.

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would love to have 400+ for a straight line, motorway drving but don't think i'll ever need much more than i've got for round the twisties driving.
very rarely i think to myself 'i needed more power coming sideways out of that roundabout'

driver training mate, that's the way to go. no point having all that power if you don't know what to do with it
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Originally Posted by ScoobyDoo69
You're running a 20g right? You should have around 380bhp surely?
I have a 20g mate but no way is it pulling that bhp. Its pulling 1.5bar to the redline. DD rr results in 303bhp at the wheels. Add 16% and that becomes approx 351bhp at the crank.

Id guess around 350, i dont/wont inflate figures for the sake of it. All the figures are just pub talk for guys with small ******. Id guess with my mods about 350 ish..

but what i do know for certain is that its nowhere near enough for a newage.
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I dont think I could put up with 400bhp after having nearly 500bhp but as they say power corrupts so I'm getting more
Old 01 October 2007, 09:18 PM
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I couldn't go backwards with power either unless it drove far better.

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anybody know of any dealers offering discounts on 06 sti PPP, still toying with the idea but it's the wifes car and not sure she would be too happy with the burble

cheers
Old 01 October 2007, 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by daz-c
anybody know of any dealers offering discounts on 06 sti PPP, still toying with the idea but it's the wifes car and not sure she would be too happy with the burble

cheers
Nope. There's only discounts for cars older than 05 I think. Didn't you ask this once before mate?
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I think the question should be who wants reliable power at whatever figure your after..

I want to hit the magic 415/400 with a 2.0 block but I want the car easy to drive everyday as well, one of the things that put me off Evo's and made me want a Scooby, it's everyday character.

I doubt I will achieve the figures I am after but if I can get to 400 bhp or close enough, without compromising the drive of the car then I will be happy. If I need anything more than that, I will either need to seriously consider something with more tuning potential (like a Skyline) or dream of shoehoring in a H6 Turbo!

Mind you, there is always the possibility of piggy backing a supercharger to the turbo system...
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For a big powered/ well mannered road car...

2.5 is the way forward


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