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Old 17 August 2007, 09:50 AM
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Default Look what happened to my header to up-pipe gasket after a week! Why???

Had the headers fitted the other week, and the gasket between the turbo up-pipe to manifold has gone.
I presume it was just a defective gasket??
The headers weren't an a1 fit but almost. When i tokk the gasket out after undoing the two bolts the up-pipe sprang back leaving a gap of around 3-4 millimetres.
Should i go for a better quality gasket that is quite thick, or put two of the same type gaskets on??
Any suggestions on good quality gaskets??
Old 17 August 2007, 10:01 AM
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Just weld the damn thing as mine kept blowing every few weeks!

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Old 17 August 2007, 10:02 AM
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If the flanges don't align quite right then it could have left a tiny gap and the gases burnt through it making it worse.

Would try using a bit of non-silcone exhaust paste as well as a new gasket: Makes sure its oxygen sensor and catalyst safe; it does exist, although alot isn't so read the label before buying.

Failing that, if they are new headers/up-pipe; I'd send them back as one of them hasn't been formed correctly. Quite typical of aftermarket performance exhausts I'm afraid.

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Old 17 August 2007, 10:16 AM
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That is a very cheap and nasty gasket, that is why. Buy an OE one and it should do a lot better.
Old 17 August 2007, 10:19 AM
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Cheers folks, but i think the OE gaskets are thin stainless and there is the 3-4 mill gap?


If i welded it would i be able to take it off again, as abit tight space.??

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Old 17 August 2007, 10:39 AM
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But you suggest that when you tighten the bolts it all pulls together? I take it the uppipe has a flexi joint?

The OE gasket has a crush ring (the one in the picture doesn't) which means gasses can't escape through the thin metal layers that make up the gasket - if sealed correctly.

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Old 17 August 2007, 12:17 PM
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Flexi joint is cheap and nasty mine is solid

Even if the gaskets blown!!

Just bought 2 with the centre crush rings in them so should be fine in a bit.
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Use a OE One. If there is a gap as your saying sound like its not the right part
Old 17 August 2007, 04:27 PM
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I had the same problem with my GT Spec headers, i went through 4 gaskets inc subaru ones, in the end i got a kit from RCM and have never had a problem since.
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The header set is Japspeed. Think prob just a poor fit as only slightly mis fitting.
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Originally Posted by J_sca001
The header set is Japspeed. Think prob just a poor fit as only slightly mis fitting.
Out of interest. Can you smell exhaust fumes through your vents with this problem. Expeically when sitting stationary?
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Not that i've noticed?
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Originally Posted by J_sca001
Had the headers fitted the other week, and the gasket between the turbo up-pipe to manifold has gone.
I presume it was just a defective gasket??
The headers weren't an a1 fit but almost. When i tokk the gasket out after undoing the two bolts the up-pipe sprang back leaving a gap of around 3-4 millimetres.
Should i go for a better quality gasket that is quite thick, or put two of the same type gaskets on??
Any suggestions on good quality gaskets??

get original subaru one they £8
I had the gap 3-4mm you are talking about on mine and made a stainless steel spacer at work got a spare if you want one. if you tighten up the gap without the spacer you are removing all the flex and it may crack or just blow again.


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Old 17 August 2007, 07:20 PM
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had the same problem for the past 6 months cost me a fortune in gaskets
tried dealer ones and aftermarket mine has got a 8mm gap and thats with standard headers and up pipe got three gaskets in now and a load of exhaust paste still blows got used to it blowing now
Old 17 August 2007, 07:24 PM
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do you want a spacer may have 2 spare ?

you will get extra lag with it blowing as well
Old 17 August 2007, 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by scooby raff
had the same problem for the past 6 months cost me a fortune in gaskets
tried dealer ones and aftermarket mine has got a 8mm gap and thats with standard headers and up pipe got three gaskets in now and a load of exhaust paste still blows got used to it blowing now
Phone RCM i had the same problem, they will supply you with a new gasket and bolts, it will solve your problem
Old 18 August 2007, 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by ian10
do you want a spacer may have 2 spare ?

you will get extra lag with it blowing as well
Yes please Ian, YHPM
Old 18 August 2007, 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by P1 SUB
Phone RCM i had the same problem, they will supply you with a new gasket and bolts, it will solve your problem
Who are RCM
Old 18 August 2007, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by J_sca001
Yes please Ian, YHPM
Just tried two decent quality crush type gaskets and a bit of exhaust paste and it's still blowing !!!!!!

Ian! Put me out my misery!! Can i buy one of those spacers from you???
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Originally Posted by J_sca001
Who are RCM
Roger Clark Motorsport
Old 18 August 2007, 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by J_sca001
Who are RCM
Roger Clark Motorsport. 01455828610
Old 18 August 2007, 07:47 PM
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Thanks folks
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Originally Posted by totalllama
Out of interest. Can you smell exhaust fumes through your vents with this problem. Expeically when sitting stationary?
Originally Posted by J_sca001
Not that i've noticed?
Trying to sort out a problem I have with fumes coming into the car myself and thought this might be the same as me. Good luck with the gasket though!!
Old 19 August 2007, 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by totalllama
Trying to sort out a problem I have with fumes coming into the car myself and thought this might be the same as me. Good luck with the gasket though!!
I notice you drive a wagon.
Are you sure fumes are not coming in from the boot area?
I only say this as i had an estate car and due to the exhaust being straight fumes would come in through the boot.
Just a thought
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