PPP QUESTION.
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PPP QUESTION.
I have just bought a 2007 WRX saloon at a price that could not be refused. Only problem is it's a European import. I have encountered problems from Subaru dealers re servicing, they are'nt overly helpful in the main, despite the car coming with a Subaru warranty. Any tips on how to overcome this would be welcome. Secondly I was considering the having the PPP fitted but 1) Does it make a significant difference to the performance to make it worth £1700. 2) I am told that even thought it is Subaru approved and would normally come Suabru warranteed, because my car is an import it would not come with a pro drive certificate and would invalidate my warranty. Is this correct. Advice would be appreciated. I would like to enhance the performance of my Subaru, my first and I love it, from the current 230ps. Is the PPP the way to go.
Cheers Jeff Foster.
Cheers Jeff Foster.
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Yes, its true that PPP will invalidate an EU car's warranty. It is worth having, so I took a risk and fitted the parts myself and had it mapped elsewhere which gave more power than PPP and cheaper (but no warranty now!) It depends on how brave you are and how friendly your dealer is (not very, by the sound of it!) They may still honour non engine claims.
Servicing is easy. Just go to a specialist at 2/3 the price and better knowledge. No warranty problems. Main dealers should service them without question, really. There are lots of specialists to choose from, depending on where you are. Just ask...
Servicing is easy. Just go to a specialist at 2/3 the price and better knowledge. No warranty problems. Main dealers should service them without question, really. There are lots of specialists to choose from, depending on where you are. Just ask...
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Yes, its true that PPP will invalidate an EU car's warranty. It is worth having, so I took a risk and fitted the parts myself and had it mapped elsewhere which gave more power than PPP and cheaper (but no warranty now!) It depends on how brave you are and how friendly your dealer is (not very, by the sound of it!) They may still honour non engine claims.
Servicing is easy. Just go to a specialist at 2/3 the price and better knowledge. No warranty problems. Main dealers should service them without question, really. There are lots of specialists to choose from, depending on where you are. Just ask...
Servicing is easy. Just go to a specialist at 2/3 the price and better knowledge. No warranty problems. Main dealers should service them without question, really. There are lots of specialists to choose from, depending on where you are. Just ask...
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It would need a fair amount of work and £££s to get to 330bhp and be pushing the limits of the engine internals and gearbox. Most people would recommend trading up to an STi if you wanted that much power safely.
The safe limit without major work is around 300bhp, but I'm sure you could go further if you wanted to.
You could get the PPP ECU and then make more mods and re map for more power or do the mods and re map the original ECU at the same time, giving better results at a lower cost. The main reason for going the PPP route is to retain warranty, which doesn't help in our cases.
My car is 2 years old now, so I've only lost 1 years warranty, but it would be a risk to do it to an 07 car. Most of the visible changes with PPP are to the exhaust, so you could always refit the original pipes if you need to make a warranty claim.
The safe limit without major work is around 300bhp, but I'm sure you could go further if you wanted to.
You could get the PPP ECU and then make more mods and re map for more power or do the mods and re map the original ECU at the same time, giving better results at a lower cost. The main reason for going the PPP route is to retain warranty, which doesn't help in our cases.
My car is 2 years old now, so I've only lost 1 years warranty, but it would be a risk to do it to an 07 car. Most of the visible changes with PPP are to the exhaust, so you could always refit the original pipes if you need to make a warranty claim.
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You don't need the PPP remap. Go totally after market...
You will likely need at minimum:
Upgraded exhaust (not just the backbox) (£300ish?)
Uprated fuel pump if going 300bhp+ (£90ish)
Panel filter (£30ish)
Remap (£600ish)
It's the path I have chosen to go as think the PPP is over priced... but UK cars do risk warranties... that's how they get you to pay over the odds. You don't have this concern so a no brainer really.
You will likely need at minimum:
Upgraded exhaust (not just the backbox) (£300ish?)
Uprated fuel pump if going 300bhp+ (£90ish)
Panel filter (£30ish)
Remap (£600ish)
It's the path I have chosen to go as think the PPP is over priced... but UK cars do risk warranties... that's how they get you to pay over the odds. You don't have this concern so a no brainer really.
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Exactly. It's cost me around £1250 to get to 290bhp (mine's a Blobeye, so PPP is only 261bhp) as I've got a sports cat and up pipe which don't come with the PPP.
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