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Old 09 June 2007, 05:06 PM
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I got some fully synthetic 5w40 from a local motor factor that was recommended for subaru impreza turbo's. Mine is a MY98 UK and suffers a little piston slap when cold. Is this going to be too thin and would i be better swapping for 10w40. Not sure if they have this though and i need to change it a.s.a.p as the MOT is tuesday.

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Old 09 June 2007, 05:29 PM
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In a word, yes!
Don't go lower than 10w40 on My93-My00 Imprezas. Piston slap is common problem on MY97/98 and can only really be cured with an engine rebuild. But, if the noise goes away when its warmed up, don't worry about it. Some imprezas with this problem are still going now on the original engine.

Also, you don't need to change your oil just to pass an MOT. I'd recommend Motul, silkolene, mobil 1 (15w50). Spend a bit more time finding the correct oil rather than chucking the first thing your local halfrauds recommends!

This (although expensive) would be perfect for your scooby.
eBay.co.uk: Motul 300V 10w-40 Race Engine Oil 3x2L Cans (6L total) (item 170111631198 end time 12-Jun-07 12:49:04 BST)
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I have some Millers 15/60 available - £40 RRP
Old 09 June 2007, 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by dynamix
I have some Millers 15/60 available - £40 RRP
Isn't that way too thick for a standard road car?
Old 09 June 2007, 06:23 PM
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Depends on the use really - i use 10/60 in mine but 15/60 should be fine in an older engine.
Old 09 June 2007, 06:27 PM
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Personally I think thats over-kill in a road car.
Old 09 June 2007, 06:49 PM
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I agree

Mine gets used on track
Old 09 June 2007, 07:24 PM
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Old 09 June 2007, 07:28 PM
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5/40 is what the dealers put in mate.
Old 09 June 2007, 07:29 PM
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Good luck! What model is it? MY01+ is usually ok.
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Originally Posted by Dan 2
5/40 is what the dealers put in mate.

They should put in as standard shell helix 10w40 semi synthetic, thats what the handbook states

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Old 09 June 2007, 08:04 PM
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Lesson learnt. Never trust the dealers
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i use shell helix 10/40 car's a my94 uk 109,000 miles still run's perfect 280bhp i also change my oil 3 times a year.
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Originally Posted by TonyBurns
They should put in as standard shell helix 10w40 semi synthetic, thats what the handbook states

Tony
Just checked an email i got from Opie oils and they recommended either 5w/ 40 for dailly driving or a 10w/50 for hard driving..

Bloody confusing me thinks
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Yes, too thin - 10/40 is recommended.

Just filling in for the esteemed Mr Lewis until he wakes up.....
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In an oil specification the first figure refers to the cold viscosity and the second figure refers to the hot viscosity. So a 5W-40 is viscosity '5W' when cold and thins out to '40' when hot.

The difference between a 5W-40 and 10W-40 is therefore only in the 'cold' viscosity. When they are hot they are both 40-weight oils.

A 5W will give easier oil circulation when the engine is cold, particuarly in winter. In practise either a 5W- or a 10W- will be fine in the British climate. Not worth worrying about the difference. So long as you buy an oil with the latest API/SAE spec (e.g. an API 'SL' grade) and change it regularly using an OEM filter then you'll be absolutely fine for all normal road driving.

Buying expensive and exotic oils is only needed if you are hammering the car around a race track...
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Cheers for the input guys. I knew when i posted up that i would probably get a range of answers, now i dunno what to do for the best. Think i will go and see if they have any 10w40 tomorrow and if they don't i'll throw in the 5w40 and wait with baited breath to see how it runs.

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Originally Posted by TonyBurns
They should put in as standard shell helix 10w40 semi synthetic, thats what the handbook states

Tony


i was running 10/40 helix which i thought was what main dealers used but popped up to dealers by me in worcester they say that they use 5/40 helix in all wrx and sti,s . !
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you must be sick to put in those grades of oil, like 10-60,15-WW...., or at least know what you are doing.
just read those jap comics. It says 10w-30 or 5w-30 depending on your temperatures.

Just use the quality oil.

I myself use Castrol TXT 10w-30 full syntethic oil, which is 100% percent pure synthetic, not that mineral hydracracking refined oil.
No matter what abuse I put on my Throttle.
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Originally Posted by Dan 2
Just checked an email i got from Opie oils and they recommended either 5w/ 40 for dailly driving or a 10w/50 for hard driving..

Bloody confusing me thinks
Id perfer to take the manufacturers recommendation over anyone elses, they built the engine remember

Tony
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Originally Posted by TonyBurns
Id perfer to take the manufacturers recommendation over anyone elses, they built the engine remember

Tony
You Pete's nephew Tony ?
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Originally Posted by andythejock01wrx
You Pete's nephew Tony ?
Shhhhh

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Originally Posted by TonyBurns
Shhhhh

Tony
Or prodigy ?
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Or prodigy ?
Love child

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Is your other half called 'Carpet' ?

sorry .... I'll get me coat
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Originally Posted by TonyBurns
Id perfer to take the manufacturers recommendation over anyone elses, they built the engine remember

Tony

Rather you than me.. It also depends on what power your running too.

Each to their own i suppose.
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Originally Posted by Dan 2
Rather you than me.. It also depends on what power your running too.

Each to their own i suppose.

STi also do a range of oils for the car (think they are a 5/40 a 15/50 and a 10/60), the fact being though is that people sell oil/exhausts/tyres etc and are making money out of it, its not always the best for the car, that is what you have to understand, its money in their pocket
The manufacturer has tested the oils it shows (both semi and fully synthetic) on the standard car, run them for 200k miles+ and they normally give you an equivelant oil/lubricant code. I ran my last scoob on Motul 300v, mainly because thats what STi uses as their branded oil

Tony
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Originally Posted by TonyBurns
STi also do a range of oils for the car (think they are a 5/40 a 15/50 and a 10/60), the fact being though is that people sell oil/exhausts/tyres etc and are making money out of it, its not always the best for the car, that is what you have to understand, its money in their pocket
The manufacturer has tested the oils it shows (both semi and fully synthetic) on the standard car, run them for 200k miles+ and they normally give you an equivelant oil/lubricant code. I ran my last scoob on Motul 300v, mainly because thats what STi uses as their branded oil

Tony
What viscosity Motul 300V did you use Tony?
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Originally Posted by Robocop
What viscosity Motul 300V did you use Tony?
I used the 15w50 rated one, no pressure on the engine as from where I live its down hill to where I normally go though next time ill probably give the 5w40 a shot (though the car was run in on 10w40 shell helix )

Tony
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If its Motul or a good make the 5W 40 would be just about ok as its a very high quality oil which is thin but more suited to winter or lots of short journeys , but this viscosity only good for all year round if the grade of oil is first class the high quality would make it last in the high temps of the Impreza engine during summer.A good high quality Motul oil would maintain its quality.

A low quality oil would deteriate quicker so would need replacing very often.

10w 40 better for all year round use .

15w 40 good for summer use only in a car for every day use.

I trust oilmans advice.

Quality costs but is worth it.


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