speeding oops
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speeding oops
this morning i think i may have been cought for speeding by one of those big transit vans
the thing is the blacked out windows that they have where not open, so i was just thinking will the laser work though a closed black out window?
it did look like they just got there, and i was thinking maybe they hadn`t set the camera up and opened the window yet?
what do u guyes think?
just for the record i was just over the speed limit, i was not trying to smash any land speed records lol so it would only be 3 points and i have a clean licence anyway.
the thing is the blacked out windows that they have where not open, so i was just thinking will the laser work though a closed black out window?
it did look like they just got there, and i was thinking maybe they hadn`t set the camera up and opened the window yet?
what do u guyes think?
just for the record i was just over the speed limit, i was not trying to smash any land speed records lol so it would only be 3 points and i have a clean licence anyway.
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Just over?
You should be fine for +10% unless its Derbyshire as they are a bit stricter I think.
Unless you were performing a safe overtaking procedure as this is the only valid reason for briefly going over the speed limit.
You should be fine for +10% unless its Derbyshire as they are a bit stricter I think.
Unless you were performing a safe overtaking procedure as this is the only valid reason for briefly going over the speed limit.
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Hate to tell you this but I got done last Jan by one of those f*ckers with the blacked out windows. They sent me some snaps in the post with the fine though, so at least I could show them off to my mates! My adive is to check the local police's website, see where the vans were and what they were up to, normally it'll say something like "live" or "dummy" (at least that's what the Yorkshire rozzers do)
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I think we all go through this at some point but the trick is not to worry about it. Its quite normal to have points these days. I have wondered many times if I have fallen foul of these vans. F**k em, the money grabbing barstools. I don't think the laser works through dark glass anyway.
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What did the van say on the side ?
If it was a plain van then it could have been an anpr (automatic number plate recognition) van. These do not record speed, they just check the casr number against the police computer and intel computers. It flags up stolen, uninsured, no tax, drug dealers etc. etc.
If it was a plain van then it could have been an anpr (automatic number plate recognition) van. These do not record speed, they just check the casr number against the police computer and intel computers. It flags up stolen, uninsured, no tax, drug dealers etc. etc.
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According to Pepipoo it is 14days:
PePiPoo: Notice of Intended Prosecution (NIP) - UK Motoring Law
Unless of course the car is not in your name, company car, etc - then they have more time.
I am sure the lasers do work through the dark windows - there is a mobile site on my way to work and they are always tucked up in the van - never opened windows/doors.
You'll just have to cack it for a couple of weeks....
PePiPoo: Notice of Intended Prosecution (NIP) - UK Motoring Law
Unless of course the car is not in your name, company car, etc - then they have more time.
I am sure the lasers do work through the dark windows - there is a mobile site on my way to work and they are always tucked up in the van - never opened windows/doors.
You'll just have to cack it for a couple of weeks....
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ACPO guideline is 10%+2mph.
To fight a speeding or other traffic offence see PePiPoo: Helping the motorist to get justice
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According to Pepipoo it is 14days:
PePiPoo: Notice of Intended Prosecution (NIP) - UK Motoring Law
Unless of course the car is not in your name, company car, etc - then they have more time. The first nip must be served on the registered keeper within 14 days of the alleged offence. Subsequent nips can be sent later
I am sure the lasers do work through the dark windows . No they dont and are not being used correctly in line with ACPO and manufacturer guidelines- there is a mobile site on my way to work and they are always tucked up in the van - never opened windows/doors.
You'll just have to cack it for a couple of weeks....
PePiPoo: Notice of Intended Prosecution (NIP) - UK Motoring Law
Unless of course the car is not in your name, company car, etc - then they have more time. The first nip must be served on the registered keeper within 14 days of the alleged offence. Subsequent nips can be sent later
I am sure the lasers do work through the dark windows . No they dont and are not being used correctly in line with ACPO and manufacturer guidelines- there is a mobile site on my way to work and they are always tucked up in the van - never opened windows/doors.
You'll just have to cack it for a couple of weeks....
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RTOA 1988
1.-(1) Subject to section 2 of this Act, where a person is prosecuted for an offence to which this section applies, he is not to be convicted unless-
(a) he was warned at the time the offence was committed that the question of prosecuting him for some one or other of the offences to which this section applies would be taken into consideration, or
( B) within fourteen days of the commission of the offence a summons (or, in Scotland, a complaint) for the offence was served on him, or
[c] within fourteen days of the commission of the offence a notice of the intended prosecution specifying the nature of the alleged offence and the time and place where it is alleged to have been committed, was-
(i) in the case of an offence under section 28 or 29 of the Road Traffic Act 1988 (cycling offences), served on him,
(ii) in the case of any other offence, served on him or on the person, if any, registered as the keeper of the vehicle at the time of the commission of the offence.
(1A) A notice required by this section to be served on any person may be served on that person-
(a) by delivering it to him;
(b) by addressing it to him and leaving it at his last known address; or
[c] by sending it by registered post, recorded delivery service or first class post addressed to him at his last known address.
(2) A notice shall be deemed for the purposes of subsection 1[c] above to have been served on a person if it was sent by registered post or recorded delivery service addressed to him at his last known address, notwithstanding that the notice was returned as undelivered or was for any other reason not received by him.
(3) The requirement of subsection (1) above shall in every case be deemed to have been complied with unless and until the contrary is proved.
1.-(1) Subject to section 2 of this Act, where a person is prosecuted for an offence to which this section applies, he is not to be convicted unless-
(a) he was warned at the time the offence was committed that the question of prosecuting him for some one or other of the offences to which this section applies would be taken into consideration, or
( B) within fourteen days of the commission of the offence a summons (or, in Scotland, a complaint) for the offence was served on him, or
[c] within fourteen days of the commission of the offence a notice of the intended prosecution specifying the nature of the alleged offence and the time and place where it is alleged to have been committed, was-
(i) in the case of an offence under section 28 or 29 of the Road Traffic Act 1988 (cycling offences), served on him,
(ii) in the case of any other offence, served on him or on the person, if any, registered as the keeper of the vehicle at the time of the commission of the offence.
(1A) A notice required by this section to be served on any person may be served on that person-
(a) by delivering it to him;
(b) by addressing it to him and leaving it at his last known address; or
[c] by sending it by registered post, recorded delivery service or first class post addressed to him at his last known address.
(2) A notice shall be deemed for the purposes of subsection 1[c] above to have been served on a person if it was sent by registered post or recorded delivery service addressed to him at his last known address, notwithstanding that the notice was returned as undelivered or was for any other reason not received by him.
(3) The requirement of subsection (1) above shall in every case be deemed to have been complied with unless and until the contrary is proved.
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Wouldn't worry about it, if you have a clean license all you will get is 3 points and £60 fine. and it shouldn't affect your insurance either,
Read an article in the Sun newspaper on Thursday, and it was saying that there is over a million drivers in the UK one speeding fine away from getting banned, going by the totting up procedure. It also mentioned that £300 million was collected last year in speeding fines, and that 92% of all Road offences are speeding. Easiest way to produce revenue and to combat road congestion by banning everyone from using them
Read an article in the Sun newspaper on Thursday, and it was saying that there is over a million drivers in the UK one speeding fine away from getting banned, going by the totting up procedure. It also mentioned that £300 million was collected last year in speeding fines, and that 92% of all Road offences are speeding. Easiest way to produce revenue and to combat road congestion by banning everyone from using them
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If it's your first offence or it's been 3 years since your last one then you get the option of doing a speed awareness course instead of the points, keeps your licence clean and your insurance is'nt affected.
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Don't want to get your hopes mate, they have probably now calibrated them through windows now because the good people inside the van were getting cold and wet.
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now things may have changed but I thought that the window had to open, reason being is that the glass will affect the laser, albeit in a minor way, and therefore the device is not deemed properly calibrated.
Don't want to get your hopes mate, they have probably now calibrated them through windows now because the good people inside the van were getting cold and wet.
Don't want to get your hopes mate, they have probably now calibrated them through windows now because the good people inside the van were getting cold and wet.
LOL, i bet thats true inall
anyways as the ppl above said it will only be 3 points which i aint bothered about, i just wanted to know if i was going to get done for it thats all.
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