Victim of road rage!!
30 November 2001, 10:45 AM
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We all hear the horror stories on tv etc about road rage, how it happens etc, well heres mine 
There i was yesterday, driving through a town in scotland (down the A71) doing around 30mph in a 30 zone (was reading about 32/33mph on the clock in the astra van) and a turquoise audi a4 tdi pulls out from the juntion i pass on the left, he gets progressivly closer to the rear of the van (a 30 zone and it was raining too, also the wonderful tyres they put on the van mean torque steer from hell in the wet)
So on hitting the national speed limit i accellerate up to 65/70mph, this guy is still 2 inches off my back bumper, no indication to over take etc, i dont know the roads that well and being intimidated to go much faster down a road i dont know i gently tap the brakes to keep him back off my bumper, (yes it probably aint the best thing to do but if i needed to stop fast i wouldnt be able to as he'd have ran up the back of the van).
So hes still there, braking hard as i tapped the brakes (noting that where he was behind me i 1, couldnt see his headlights, 2 could only see half his bonnet, 3 he couldnt see past me!!!)
with this he got a little irate and started flashing his lights at me (he pulled out slightly to the right so i could see them but still didnt make any move to over take on the straights)
I dabbed the brakes again as i was coming to a corner and needed to slow down a little, (slight bend in the road, wet road remember)
and he bumps the van from behind!!!!!! at 70mph!!!! purposely!!!
So comes up to the next roundabout where i brake and stop (he goes around me and stops infront of me (busy roundabout so lots of witnesses if anything happened) i get out and ask him what the f**k hes playing at, he says i braked on him, i say to him that being 3 inches off the back of my rear bumper what am i meant to do, just the fact that if i needed to brake hard would he have stopped etc, he threatened to punch me light out, (felt like laughing then as it seemed quite hillarious at the time, was shaken afterwards thou, more with anger that some total pr1ck like this is on the roads, bullying people to go faster as he didnt even want to overtake me!!!)
Basically i gave him **** for his wonderful driving and told him that my van aint the best thing in the wet, and wtf did he think of when he hit my rear bumper (could have spun the van!!)
I wasnt driving agressivly IMHO, he just bullied me to go faster down these roads, he couldnt see past me so if there had been something there then he would have hit the van making things worse [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img] he was a touch bigger than me (im under 6ff, he was over 6ft and fat).
I cant remember all the reg thou, it was something like R309 U**
So if you see this arrogant g1t on the road, give him a wide berth (as he needs it cos hes a fat g1t
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Could have been worse i know but my van handles like a bag of spanners in the wet
Tony
PS, think he had some minor damage to the front of his car and ive got a small scratch on the vans rear bumper
Edited due to my spelling DOH!!
[Edited by TonyBurns - 11/30/2001 10:48:16 AM]
There i was yesterday, driving through a town in scotland (down the A71) doing around 30mph in a 30 zone (was reading about 32/33mph on the clock in the astra van) and a turquoise audi a4 tdi pulls out from the juntion i pass on the left, he gets progressivly closer to the rear of the van (a 30 zone and it was raining too, also the wonderful tyres they put on the van mean torque steer from hell in the wet
)So on hitting the national speed limit i accellerate up to 65/70mph, this guy is still 2 inches off my back bumper, no indication to over take etc, i dont know the roads that well and being intimidated to go much faster down a road i dont know i gently tap the brakes to keep him back off my bumper, (yes it probably aint the best thing to do but if i needed to stop fast i wouldnt be able to as he'd have ran up the back of the van).
So hes still there, braking hard as i tapped the brakes (noting that where he was behind me i 1, couldnt see his headlights, 2 could only see half his bonnet, 3 he couldnt see past me!!!)
with this he got a little irate and started flashing his lights at me (he pulled out slightly to the right so i could see them but still didnt make any move to over take on the straights)
I dabbed the brakes again as i was coming to a corner and needed to slow down a little, (slight bend in the road, wet road remember)
and he bumps the van from behind!!!!!! at 70mph!!!! purposely!!!
So comes up to the next roundabout where i brake and stop (he goes around me and stops infront of me (busy roundabout so lots of witnesses if anything happened) i get out and ask him what the f**k hes playing at, he says i braked on him, i say to him that being 3 inches off the back of my rear bumper what am i meant to do, just the fact that if i needed to brake hard would he have stopped etc, he threatened to punch me light out, (felt like laughing then as it seemed quite hillarious at the time, was shaken afterwards thou, more with anger that some total pr1ck like this is on the roads, bullying people to go faster as he didnt even want to overtake me!!!)
Basically i gave him **** for his wonderful driving and told him that my van aint the best thing in the wet, and wtf did he think of when he hit my rear bumper (could have spun the van!!)
I wasnt driving agressivly IMHO, he just bullied me to go faster down these roads, he couldnt see past me so if there had been something there then he would have hit the van making things worse [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img] he was a touch bigger than me (im under 6ff, he was over 6ft and fat).
I cant remember all the reg thou, it was something like R309 U**
So if you see this arrogant g1t on the road, give him a wide berth (as he needs it cos hes a fat g1t
)Could have been worse i know but my van handles like a bag of spanners in the wet
Tony
PS, think he had some minor damage to the front of his car and ive got a small scratch on the vans rear bumper
Edited due to my spelling
DOH!![Edited by TonyBurns - 11/30/2001 10:48:16 AM]
30 November 2001, 10:58 AM
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report it and then they could match up the colours on the two vehicles and you might if your luckey get him done, if he is stupid enough to admit it. You should of got a witness.
30 November 2001, 11:01 AM
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I use the mobile phone to store the reg numbers of people that are acting like that and therefore if they do hit you or anything and drive off, you've always got there reg number to fall back on. I know you ain't ment to do this, but it the easiest way to store the info. needed.
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30 November 2001, 11:01 AM
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I think that sort of stuff is a total outrage [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]
Its not so bad happeneing to you, as you could handle it (hope you know what I mean), but if it was my misses or anyones wife/girlfriend/mother/old person then it makes matters even worse.
Definitely give the cops a call......these people should be locked away [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]
Its not so bad happeneing to you, as you could handle it (hope you know what I mean), but if it was my misses or anyones wife/girlfriend/mother/old person then it makes matters even worse.
Definitely give the cops a call......these people should be locked away [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]
30 November 2001, 11:14 AM
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This happened to me in my last car. I turned out of my road onto a main road with a 30 limit. immediately, a white van which was in the distance when i pulled out is right up my ar$e. i stick religiously to thirty.
We near the national speed limit section, and about 200 yards from it he pulls out to overtake. I gave it slightly large in order to hold him behind me. he dropped back in behind me, then rammed me.
I took his number out the mirror, and whilst still driving, called the police.
they were not really interested at all. told me to pull over and let him pass. i asked them if they were going to do anything about it. they said no, but i could probably prosecute if there was any damage. so i hung up the phone.
anyway, we get to the traffic lights at the end of the nat. speed limit bit. i stop at the front of the queue, and he gets out of his van. he pulled me out of my car and starts to hit me, shouting and swearing. so i thought **** it, and had a lash back. battered him a bit.
so, whilst i was lucky in that i was larger than him, it left me disgusted that the police didnt want to do anything about this hooligan. what if i'd have been a young lady or an oap or something? what would have happened then?
thinking back, i wish i'd put his head through the windscreen.
We near the national speed limit section, and about 200 yards from it he pulls out to overtake. I gave it slightly large in order to hold him behind me. he dropped back in behind me, then rammed me.
I took his number out the mirror, and whilst still driving, called the police.
they were not really interested at all. told me to pull over and let him pass. i asked them if they were going to do anything about it. they said no, but i could probably prosecute if there was any damage. so i hung up the phone.
anyway, we get to the traffic lights at the end of the nat. speed limit bit. i stop at the front of the queue, and he gets out of his van. he pulled me out of my car and starts to hit me, shouting and swearing. so i thought **** it, and had a lash back. battered him a bit.
so, whilst i was lucky in that i was larger than him, it left me disgusted that the police didnt want to do anything about this hooligan. what if i'd have been a young lady or an oap or something? what would have happened then?
thinking back, i wish i'd put his head through the windscreen.
30 November 2001, 11:52 AM
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This happened to me the other week. NormallY I would have gotten out and flattened the guy, but I was ill with tonsilitis and flu. Reported it to the Police, who said they would go round and warn the guy, and that they would get back to me, but they haven't. Probably too busy with their laser guns gathering money for stupid causes...
30 November 2001, 11:53 AM
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This is why i bought a HUGE maglight when I was in the USA (cop style one, size of a mini base ball bat I don't think you can get one this big in the UK) Not saying I would use it but if he got out the car to me I would show him it through the window and see if he wanted a closer look of it :-).
30 November 2001, 12:23 PM
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I keep a 2ft long breaker bar under my front seat.... I use it for tightening up the wheel nuts and for changing the wheels.
I imagine it would be a pretty good deterrent if someone got 'too violent'..... not that they would, cos I am over 6ft tall and built like a brick.....etc
The bar is a little obvious; I have a large maglight on my xmas list...
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I imagine it would be a pretty good deterrent if someone got 'too violent'..... not that they would, cos I am over 6ft tall and built like a brick.....etc
The bar is a little obvious; I have a large maglight on my xmas list...
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30 November 2001, 12:45 PM
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unfortunately there are too many ****** out there who think every stretch of tarmac is a race track. What is their hurry?? I am sure a lot of people on this forum enjoy driving their scooby hard, BUT as and when the circumstances are right and safe
As many of the others have said if poss report the ****, and if you had his number I would think nothing of visiting the plod
In that kind of car, probably a company car, he thinks he is god
Will end up hurting someone else....
As many of the others have said if poss report the ****, and if you had his number I would think nothing of visiting the plod
In that kind of car, probably a company car, he thinks he is god
Will end up hurting someone else....
30 November 2001, 12:52 PM
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slippyr4 said:
> We near the national speed limit section, and about 200 yards
> from it he pulls out to overtake. I gave it slightly large in
> order to hold him behind me. he dropped back in behind me, then > rammed me.
Maybe I'm reading this wrong; but why on earth did you accelerate when he tried to past ? There is absolutly nothing worse than pulling out to go past someone and having them floor it, so that you are now stuck on the wrong side of the road. Thats just barking mad, no wonder he went into the back of you
> We near the national speed limit section, and about 200 yards
> from it he pulls out to overtake. I gave it slightly large in
> order to hold him behind me. he dropped back in behind me, then > rammed me.
Maybe I'm reading this wrong; but why on earth did you accelerate when he tried to past ? There is absolutly nothing worse than pulling out to go past someone and having them floor it, so that you are now stuck on the wrong side of the road. Thats just barking mad, no wonder he went into the back of you
30 November 2001, 01:36 PM
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Now this is wierd. I've just had a go at the driving theory test, just for a luagh to see how much I remembered. I got 34 out of 35. The one I got wrong went as follows:
You are driving along at the speed limit. A car approaches from behind going faster than you are with his lights on. What should you do?
a. maintain your current speed
b. increase your speed
c. slow down / pull over and let them past
d. (can't remember what it was!)
I put a. I was wrong, the correct answer, according to the highway code / DSA is c.
Sounds iffy to me!
edited cos I can't get my alphabet right!!
[Edited by TaviaRS - 11/30/2001 2:24:30 PM]
You are driving along at the speed limit. A car approaches from behind going faster than you are with his lights on. What should you do?
a. maintain your current speed
b. increase your speed
c. slow down / pull over and let them past
d. (can't remember what it was!)
I put a. I was wrong, the correct answer, according to the highway code / DSA is c.
Sounds iffy to me!
edited cos I can't get my alphabet right!!
[Edited by TaviaRS - 11/30/2001 2:24:30 PM]
30 November 2001, 02:06 PM
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Someone must have made a mistake there, surely. If that's right then they are condoning breaking the speed limit. I'm sure the police would laugh if you gave that as an excuse for speeding or being flashed by a camera...
30 November 2001, 02:27 PM
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So they are condoning allowing the person behind to keep speeding? Unless they've got blue flashing lights I'd stay exactly as I was. If it slows them down then all the better.
30 November 2001, 02:42 PM
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They are condoning not behaving like a policeman. If someone really really wants to get past, then it's always better to just let them go. If you want to play policeman, then be prepared for the other driver to play criminal. How do you know the person behind isn't an undercover policeman, a doctor or an escaped psychopath?
In both cases, I would either have moved over and let the guy go past or disappeared over the horizon never to be seen again. If someone wants to break the law, then that's their decision, not mine.
Slippyr4, if you're going to deliberately obstruct someone overtaking (which is what happened here), then don't hang about after the event so that they can wreak revenge.
In both cases, I would either have moved over and let the guy go past or disappeared over the horizon never to be seen again. If someone wants to break the law, then that's their decision, not mine.
Slippyr4, if you're going to deliberately obstruct someone overtaking (which is what happened here), then don't hang about after the event so that they can wreak revenge.
30 November 2001, 06:32 PM
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I was subject to a bit of the old road rage about a year ago. Casually driving along in my MR2 doing 50 in a 50 on a dual carriageway, when Mr Boyracer decides its time to play, so he ancors up, leaving me no option but to brake and stop, and then slaps it in reverse and drives towards me. Not a lot I could do but put mine in reverse, rather quickly, and try an cut past him. Needless to say I wasn't impressed, so i dialed the police from my mobile, to bit hit with the usual question name address, etc. Nothing was done, apart from giving me a few extra grey hairs!!!
30 November 2001, 09:26 PM
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Report him. With a good description of the car and a partial plate, the Police will find him if they want to.
Chances are he's done this before and will do it again, so another complaint might just make things worse for him....
Glad you're alright mate!
Chances are he's done this before and will do it again, so another complaint might just make things worse for him....
Glad you're alright mate!
30 November 2001, 09:59 PM
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Hi Tony,
I can only offer sympathy in this one. I was pulled out of my car a while back (see http://www.scoobynet.co.uk/bbs/threa...ID=2457&Page=1) and asked for advice on here. Only damage in my case was a bruised ego and an unsatiable desire to find the f{}ker again with a large stick. Everyone was very supportive and suggested similar in that I should call the police. Sensible option one would think. I tried that - Waste of time. When I asked how I could report the incident they said that I may get a dangerous driving counter-charge levied back by the person who'd given me a smack (as I'd overtaken a lorry that had apparently broken down?). When I mentioned that there were traffic cameras on the roundabout in questions these 'could only be looked at after the charges have been brought and then there's no guarantee you'll have photo evidence.' Whether any of this was true or not I didn't go ahead and follow up. Dozens of cars stopped next to the incident (traffic lights) but no offer of help there either and no witnesses. Guy that slapped me was a crusty so probably no registration to trace the unmarked lorry he was driving. I wasn't particularly impressed with the police attitude (to put it gently) and now I rely on locked doors in town traffic and 'emergency Mag-Lite in case I break down in the night.'
Thames Valley Police motto - "Reducing Crime, Disorder and Fear." My Big Fat Hairy ****.
Joolz
I can only offer sympathy in this one. I was pulled out of my car a while back (see http://www.scoobynet.co.uk/bbs/threa...ID=2457&Page=1) and asked for advice on here. Only damage in my case was a bruised ego and an unsatiable desire to find the f{}ker again with a large stick. Everyone was very supportive and suggested similar in that I should call the police. Sensible option one would think. I tried that - Waste of time. When I asked how I could report the incident they said that I may get a dangerous driving counter-charge levied back by the person who'd given me a smack (as I'd overtaken a lorry that had apparently broken down?). When I mentioned that there were traffic cameras on the roundabout in questions these 'could only be looked at after the charges have been brought and then there's no guarantee you'll have photo evidence.' Whether any of this was true or not I didn't go ahead and follow up. Dozens of cars stopped next to the incident (traffic lights) but no offer of help there either and no witnesses. Guy that slapped me was a crusty so probably no registration to trace the unmarked lorry he was driving. I wasn't particularly impressed with the police attitude (to put it gently) and now I rely on locked doors in town traffic and 'emergency Mag-Lite in case I break down in the night.'
Thames Valley Police motto - "Reducing Crime, Disorder and Fear." My Big Fat Hairy ****.
Joolz
30 November 2001, 10:06 PM
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Oh one thing else I have to mention - My driving style now is considerably more polite than it was previously. I know more than before I am in a car that can easily be picked out of 1000 as I drive the same route every day. You won't catch me brake testing anyone (that's what rear fogs are for!) or cutting in to save a couple of minutes traffic queues. You might not be jumped immediately but when our cars tend to shout 'Target' you better keep your wits about you
Every time I stop on that roundabout, I instinctively now lock my doors.
Ba$tards.
Joolz
Every time I stop on that roundabout, I instinctively now lock my doors.
Ba$tards.
Joolz
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The police will ot be inetrested in reports of dangerous driving - even if backed up by an independant witness!! Why do I say this??
I'm working as a motorcycle courier at the moment (bloody IT market...) and last week on the A316 I was nearly flattened by some berk running a red whilst on a mobile. The usual hand gestures/horn noises ensued. Ayhow, onto the A316 proper. Both in the outside lane. NOTHING in the inside and I wanted to get by. So I flashed him. His reaction? Slam the anchors on and try to force me into the central reservation. Hmmmm. So I went to the inside lane. he moved over to block me. Now, I should have hung back then BUT I wanted to get past and lose myself in traffic (being on a bike). But everytime I tried to overtake (I was on a slow bike - not the Blade or it wouldn't have happened) he swerved over, slammed his anchors on and tried to force me into the reservation. Which, I've noticed since, is one of those *biker friendly* ones with steel cables stretched between poles!
After the last collision where his hub cap came off and my footpeg got bent up I decided (probably belatedly) to ring 999. I had got his number by then. Pulls over and a car pulls up and says he has the police on the phone. So I report it and give a statement at Staines police station later.
This week I take my documents into the police. Ask how the *enquiry* is going as I have heard nothing. Oh, they have to get all the paperwork and then decide what to do... I went ballistic! Later I got the number of the section dealing with it. They had just got the paperwork and the next thing to do was check the registration and send a letter to the registered owner to ask who was driving that day. he has 28 days to get back...
I went into one again on the phone. The PC I was talking to IMMEDIATELY said, do you want to speak to my superior? Yes I bloody did...... but still owt, Crap about lack of resources, she had sympathy forme, they had targets set by government etc etc.
I'll be checking one more time over thre weekend. Then my MP will be getting a letter>
Moral: just kick the *******s 'cos the police will do sod all! Oh, and obviously if I had committed the heinous crime of speeding the I would have got a ticket by now. But someone who tries to run me down doesn't even get his license checked!!!
Dave