Alarm problems
#1
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: SCOTLAND
Posts: 120
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Alarm problems
Anyone had problems with there alarm when parked next to, police stations I had to get towed away tonight from police station second time this year, apparently radio masts interfere with remote signals for alarm, anyone had this problem if so do you have a cure for it help.
#5
Scooby Regular
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Ireland
Posts: 494
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by DANGEROUS DAVY
Anyone had problems with there alarm when parked next to, police stations I had to get towed away tonight from police station second time this year, apparently radio masts interfere with remote signals for alarm, anyone had this problem if so do you have a cure for it help.
Police stations , fire stations, just about any building that has a radio/microwave transmitter will mess up some Car alarm systems, i had to get mine shielded when i lived in the big smoke as i was between 2 high freq masts. I dont know what you may have to do, what make and model alarm have you?
#6
Scooby Regular
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Here and there but mainly here...
Posts: 6,738
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
It's the Tetra radio system - it's known for interfering with car alarms / remote systems. You'll also find that you can park in the same spot each day and it won't always affect you
Trending Topics
#8
yep, sigma provided the alarm for subaru, they found problems with police stations and something els, which also effected the range, me m8 told me as he worked for sigma and changes the reciever unit in the alarm for me
#9
Scooby Regular
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Ascended to the next level
Posts: 7,498
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I find that in most cases, if you unlock the car maunually, get in and shut the door (alarm will be going off - obviously) then try the remote whilst inside the car with teh door closed, you'll find it'll work.
#10
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: SCOTLAND
Posts: 120
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by DevilHimSelf
Police stations , fire stations, just about any building that has a radio/microwave transmitter will mess up some Car alarm systems, i had to get mine shielded when i lived in the big smoke as i was between 2 high freq masts. I dont know what you may have to do, what make and model alarm have you?
#11
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: SCOTLAND
Posts: 120
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by DANGEROUS DAVY
Anyone had problems with there alarm when parked next to, police stations I had to get towed away tonight from police station second time this year, apparently radio masts interfere with remote signals for alarm, anyone had this problem if so do you have a cure for it help.
#12
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: SCOTLAND
Posts: 120
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by Shark Man
I find that in most cases, if you unlock the car maunually, get in and shut the door (alarm will be going off - obviously) then try the remote whilst inside the car with teh door closed, you'll find it'll work.
#14
Originally Posted by DANGEROUS DAVY
Think I will change the receiver unit shouldnt be to expensive, or buy a P1
So, I looked up the keypad code number and use that when required - have to practice in the dark as numbers are not in the usually calculator/keyboard layout :-)
Since owning the car from new in 2000, i have been caught out less than 10 times - but always to maximise embarrassment!
Cheers,
John
#15
Originally Posted by joey_turbo
It was something to do with cars between a certain date. they used a frequency that is now only used for the emergency services. As mentioned, you should know the pin to override this on the alarm keypad.
#16
Keypad is down by your right knee, pull a little flap down and the key pads inside.
The code comes with the car when new but often gets lost or ignored as, unless you get this kind of problem, you never need to use it.
The code comes with the car when new but often gets lost or ignored as, unless you get this kind of problem, you never need to use it.
#17
Scooby Regular
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: cuckoo land
Posts: 1,472
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
there is an upgrade available and i think it was about £36 from the main dealers. I suffered the same problems on my MY00 when it was parked near certain mobile phone masts
#18
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: SCOTLAND
Posts: 120
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I have tried using key pad its ultra sensitive every time I push a button it flashes about six times and never seems to work its been checked by subaru dealer they say it works ok even tried it when key fob was working still did not work
#19
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (4)
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: MY99UK-MY02STi-MY99Type R-MY06 T20-MY11 340R-MY05 TYPE25
Posts: 11,468
Received 22 Likes
on
19 Posts
Not certain (ut S/Net user Sigma Sam posts in security)is very knowledgable in these systems.
IIRC the early Sigma M30's (1999-2001) were susceptable.
Some 1998-2000 models wouldn't start if your mobile phone was in a hands free cradle by the Dash apparantly can interfer with the Transponder signal
Ps here's a quote
Tony
IIRC the early Sigma M30's (1999-2001) were susceptable.
Some 1998-2000 models wouldn't start if your mobile phone was in a hands free cradle by the Dash apparantly can interfer with the Transponder signal
Ps here's a quote
Originally Posted by "OE Alarm" Sam
Do a searth for "Radio Lock-Out" for a full explanation of this in my previous posts under "Sigma Sam", unless you can still access "Sigma Sam"s previous posts directly.
The later ECU that you need is only now available from Subaru dealers (part number SACC 3465 and will be IRO £70) - local Sigma dealers will only be able to acquire the S-Series models which are not interchangeable and superceeded the M30 some years ago in the aftermarket.
If the problem only occurs occasionally then getting to grips with the PIN overide is your most cost effective option, but if it is a regular occurance then the the convenience may be worth the £70.
SS
The later ECU that you need is only now available from Subaru dealers (part number SACC 3465 and will be IRO £70) - local Sigma dealers will only be able to acquire the S-Series models which are not interchangeable and superceeded the M30 some years ago in the aftermarket.
If the problem only occurs occasionally then getting to grips with the PIN overide is your most cost effective option, but if it is a regular occurance then the the convenience may be worth the £70.
SS
Tony
#21
Scooby Regular
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Burnley
Posts: 127
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
From your descriptions it would seem that you do not have a faulty radio key/alarm but the security system is being affected by "Radio key lockout" - An explanation of which is below:
Right here goes....
All alarm systems manufactured for use in the UK in 1999 were required to operate on the frequency of 433MHz. Subsequently, in late 2000, the government allowed the introduction of "Tetra" radio networks for telecommunication companies, the military, emergency services etc which was allocated the 420-430 bandwidths.
Although not exactly the same frequency these "Tetra" transmitters are licensed and are allowed to operate at around 20,000 watts, compared with the alarm systems 0.5 watt radio key.
As a result when you are near a transmitting "Tetra" mast you can get a degree of bleedover as their signal is so much stronger and this can swap the transmission from the radio key.
The problem is not exclusive to this system and can occur on a number of manufacturers systems produced prior to 2001, due to the same outside influance.
In 2001 the reciever boards were re-designed to focus more accurately on the 433.92MHz frequency as soon as the problem became evident, however the systems manufactured prior to this were not considered faulty and therefore were not considered for warranty. However, as a goodwill measure, customers who suffered exceptional radio lock out were offered an upgraded reciever board if the vehicle was still within the warranty period. This measure finished in December 2004.
The keypad, supplied with the security system as standard, is intended to overcome instances such as occassional lock out using the 4 didgit pin code, if this is not available please pm me, and I will take the case from there.
In essence to overcome this, when you are affected by radio key lockout either use the four digit pin through the keypad as this is not atall affected by radio lockout or obtain a later shielded receiver ECU from Subaru they will supply and fit this ECU and the part no for the ECU just in-case you decide to follow this route is SACC3465, either way your problems should then be solved.
Regards
Mike.N
Hope I havent bored you too much with this info, but it is for everybodies benefit in the long-run.
Right here goes....
All alarm systems manufactured for use in the UK in 1999 were required to operate on the frequency of 433MHz. Subsequently, in late 2000, the government allowed the introduction of "Tetra" radio networks for telecommunication companies, the military, emergency services etc which was allocated the 420-430 bandwidths.
Although not exactly the same frequency these "Tetra" transmitters are licensed and are allowed to operate at around 20,000 watts, compared with the alarm systems 0.5 watt radio key.
As a result when you are near a transmitting "Tetra" mast you can get a degree of bleedover as their signal is so much stronger and this can swap the transmission from the radio key.
The problem is not exclusive to this system and can occur on a number of manufacturers systems produced prior to 2001, due to the same outside influance.
In 2001 the reciever boards were re-designed to focus more accurately on the 433.92MHz frequency as soon as the problem became evident, however the systems manufactured prior to this were not considered faulty and therefore were not considered for warranty. However, as a goodwill measure, customers who suffered exceptional radio lock out were offered an upgraded reciever board if the vehicle was still within the warranty period. This measure finished in December 2004.
The keypad, supplied with the security system as standard, is intended to overcome instances such as occassional lock out using the 4 didgit pin code, if this is not available please pm me, and I will take the case from there.
In essence to overcome this, when you are affected by radio key lockout either use the four digit pin through the keypad as this is not atall affected by radio lockout or obtain a later shielded receiver ECU from Subaru they will supply and fit this ECU and the part no for the ECU just in-case you decide to follow this route is SACC3465, either way your problems should then be solved.
Regards
Mike.N
Hope I havent bored you too much with this info, but it is for everybodies benefit in the long-run.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Mattybr5@MB Developments
Full Cars Breaking For Spares
28
28 December 2015 11:07 PM
Mattybr5@MB Developments
Full Cars Breaking For Spares
12
18 November 2015 07:03 AM
toyney83
General Technical
10
02 October 2015 08:38 PM