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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 03:32 PM
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my old wrx engine blew a month or so ago and i bought a second hand wrx lump( so i thought) . the old 1 was a 95 import and the second lump came from a 94 import. the second lump is much much slower on pick up and on top speed for some reason?? do you think he could of sold me a 2l turbo engine instead of a wrx??? is there a difference between a wrx and a 2l turbo??? if so how do can you tell??? is there any reason why theres so much pick up diffrence between my old and new engine, if the new 1 is a wrx!!! do you have to get a engine remapped and the ecu reseted after puting it in to get the performance out of it???. help would be appreciated
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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 05:14 PM
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i think in the year 94 they changed from 240 bhp to 260 bhp
so all depends if you got a early model

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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 06:27 PM
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2 litre turbo (UK) is 208bhp(early),215bhp(late).
The ECU on early cars will reset if left without power over night.
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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 06:32 PM
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WTF ? The physical differences are negligable. 1994my wasnt the year that anything changed, but that wouldnt make a difference either; the difference was only in the ECU, the Z4 was massivley superior the the model that it replaced. If you were sold a fit 2000 Turbo; A/B-Series WRX engine, or a C-Series WRX engine (what you had originally), it should produce about 260PS, as it did originally. You are still using the original 1995 Z4 ECU arent you?

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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 07:06 PM
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yes everything is the same apart from the lump and obviously power.honest to god the power diffrence is unbelievevable. i put my foot down and all that happens is the rev counter goes up fast and the car goes nowhere. the my 94 lump was bare so i transfered everything from my old engine to my new 1.... i dont understand
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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by mr_impreza
i put my foot down and all that happens is the rev counter goes up fast and the car goes nowhere.
Knackered clutch?
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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 07:16 PM
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Clutch?
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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 07:16 PM
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that sounds like your clutch to me?
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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 07:17 PM
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lol 3 in the same minute
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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 07:17 PM
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Three at once eh?
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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 07:44 PM
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happens to me when the car is cold... i always warm it up before leaving anywhere but it runs horrible with no power or boost at all untill about 5 mins into a journey, especially from cold... warm isnt too bad...

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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 10:09 PM
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Remember all Jap imports before 2001 were either STi's or WRX's.
If its out of an import, its at least a WRX.
Would also get a compression check done if the power feels off...?
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cant be the clutch... cauze when mechanic put the engine in i told him to put new clutch in!!!
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Old Sep 23, 2006 | 12:21 PM
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You have described a clutch fault though. You press the accelerator, it makes a lot of noise, the tacho needles races up but you dont go anywhere.
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Old Sep 23, 2006 | 12:28 PM
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and the car is screaming when approaching 100 mph??? so you think the clutch is faulty??? hmm il have to take it back to the garage then
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You have described a clutch fault though. You press the accelerator, it makes a lot of noise, the tacho needles races up but you dont go anywhere.
can i ask so i get a better idea, what actually makes the clutch "slip", as ive never actually seen the inside of a scoob clutch or how it works. im assuming there is a set number of erm cogs that are released from each other when the pedal is pressed, and hence re-attach in a different set up when pressure is released on the pedal... not too bad on engines but never understood the beauty of a clutch as of yet...

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A clutch doesnt mechanically lock; drive is transmitted through pressure. Theres a disc on the end of the engine and a disc on the gearbox and theyre pressed together. When you operate the clutch you release the pressure on the gearbox disc removing drive. If they arent pressing together with sufficient force then they will slip rather than transfer drive.
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Originally Posted by GC8
A clutch doesnt mechanically lock; drive is transmitted through pressure. Theres a disc on the end of the engine and a disc on the gearbox and theyre pressed together. When you operate the clutch you release the pressure on the gearbox disc removing drive. If they arent pressing together with sufficient force then they will slip rather than transfer drive.
ah ok ive got a better understanding now. so what causes the lack of pressure between these two plates then? ie the slip of the clutch...
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any 1??
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 12:53 PM
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How many times do you need telling the same thing (your car looks ****; its the f*cking clutch etc.)?
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 01:27 PM
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the clutch is ok you moron c**t. bet my car looks better than you'r hurse dick head
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by mr_impreza, a know-nowt gob****e scrubber with a small *****
....i put my foot down and all that happens is the rev counter goes up fast and the car goes nowhere.....
Youre a f*cking imbecile. Your pimped-up car looks like a 15yr old charver's wet dream and you destroyed the engine driving like a ****. The cheap replacement has been fitted by the cheapest mechanic that you can find and you are a technical f*ck-wit.

F*ck off back to where you came from c*nt.
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 02:03 PM
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your a jelouse old man you cu*t. you know fukc all i bet so why wont you fukc off back to the old peoples home.
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 02:13 PM
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Is this the same pruple heap of sh*t that you pictured in the other thread?

If so, do us all a favour and scrap it. It's an embarrassment to the world of Subaru ownership.
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 02:25 PM
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Great to see the good old scooby community spirit is holding up - it's no wonder so many of us our crossing to the darkside!
Still, look on the bright side - at least we can learn some new
**** words! Doh
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 02:25 PM
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its not purple either you colour blind ***
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 02:40 PM
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It's purple in the pictures that you posted.
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 02:42 PM
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i quite like his car needs diff wheels tho have you sorted your prob yet just cos the mechanic said he changed the clutch doesnt mean he did unless you saw it happen lots of dodgy geezas out there i would put money on it being the clutch with that description
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by mr_impreza
your a jelouse old man you cu*t. you know fukc all i bet so why wont you fukc off back to the old peoples home.
Ive plainly forgotten more than you know you gob****e little scrubber.
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 02:47 PM
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ha ha you know f all, ha ha stupid old man with his head up his own ***
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