Notices
ScoobyNet General General Subaru Discussion
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

a lesson in acceleration

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 20 August 2006, 12:52 PM
  #1  
doppelganger
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
 
doppelganger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: 11.23@127mph second drag vw beetle with a stock subaru legacy engine and a 50 shot of gas
Posts: 222
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default a lesson in acceleration

something to while away a couple of minutes

A LESSON IN ACCELERATION-

*One top fuel dragster 500 cubic inch hemi engine makes more horsepower than the first 4 rows at the Indy 500.
*under full throttle, a top fuel dragster engine consumes I gallon of nitromethane
Per second, a fully loaded 747 consumes jet fuel at the same rate with 25% less energy being produced.
*a stock dodge 426 hemi v8 engine cannot produce enough power to drive the dragsters supercharger.
*with 3000cfm of air being rammed in by the supercharger on overdrive, the fuel mixture is compressed into a near –solid form before ignition. the cylinders run on the verge of hydraulic lock at full throttle.
*at the stoichiometric1.7:1 air/fuel mixture for nitromethane the flame front temperature measures 7050degrees F, 3800degrees C.
*nitromethane burns yellow, the spectacular white flame seen above the stacks at night is raw burning hydrogen, disassociated from atmospheric water vapour by the searing exhaust gases.
*dual magnetos supply 44 amps to each spark plug, this is the output of an arc welder in each cylinder.
*spark plug electrodes are totally consumed during a pass, after ½ way, the engine is dieseling from compression plus the glow of exhaust valves at 1400degrees F.the engine can only be shut down by cutting of the fuel flow.
*if momentarily fails early in the run ,unburned nitro builds up in the affected cylinders and then explodes with sufficient force to blow the cylinder heads off the block in pieces or split the block in half.
*in order to exceed 300 in 4.5 seconds dragsters must accelerate at an average of over 4G`s.in order to reach 200mph well before half track, the launch acceleration approaches 8G`s.
*dragsters reach over 300 miles per hour before you have completed reading this sentence.
*top fuel engines turn 540 revolutions from light to light!
*including the burnout the engine must only survive 900 revolutions under load.
*the red line is actually quite high at 9500rpm
*the bottom line; assuming all the equipment is paid off, the crew work for free, and for once NOTHING BLOWS UP, each run costs an estimated $1000.00 per second. the current top fuel dragster elapsed time record is 4.441 seconds for the quarter mile (05/10/03,tony Schumacher).the top speed record is 333.00mph(533km/h) as measured over the last 66` of the run,(28/9/03 doug kallita).

If that hasn’t made you think enough, let’s put all this into perspective:

You are riding the average $250,000 Honda motogp bike- a seriously fast machine. Over a mile up the road, a top fuel dragster is staged and ready to launch down a ¼ mile strip as you pass. You have the advantage of a flying start. you run the RC211V hard up through the gears and blast across the starting line and past the dragster at an honest 200mph (293ft/sec).the `tree` goes green for both of you at that moment. The dragster launches and starts after you .you keep your wrist cranked hard, but you hear an incredible brutal whine that sears your eardrums and within 3 seconds the dragster catches and passes you. he beats you to the finish line ,a quarter mile away from where YOU just passed him.
Think about it ,from the standing start ,the dragster had a 200mph disadvantage, and not only caught ,but nearly blasted you off the road when he passed you within a mere 1320 foot long drag strip.
Old 20 August 2006, 01:02 PM
  #2  
Bubba po
Scooby Regular
 
Bubba po's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Cas Vegas
Posts: 60,269
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

We'd have it in the twisties.
Old 20 August 2006, 01:04 PM
  #3  
doppelganger
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
 
doppelganger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: 11.23@127mph second drag vw beetle with a stock subaru legacy engine and a 50 shot of gas
Posts: 222
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Bubba po
We'd have it in the twisties.
Old 20 August 2006, 01:30 PM
  #4  
GRIFF007
Scooby Regular
 
GRIFF007's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 823
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by doppelganger
something to while away a couple of minutes

A LESSON IN ACCELERATION-

*One top fuel dragster 500 cubic inch hemi engine makes more horsepower than the first 4 rows at the Indy 500.
*under full throttle, a top fuel dragster engine consumes I gallon of nitromethane
Per second, a fully loaded 747 consumes jet fuel at the same rate with 25% less energy being produced.
*a stock dodge 426 hemi v8 engine cannot produce enough power to drive the dragsters supercharger.
*with 3000cfm of air being rammed in by the supercharger on overdrive, the fuel mixture is compressed into a near –solid form before ignition. the cylinders run on the verge of hydraulic lock at full throttle.
*at the stoichiometric1.7:1 air/fuel mixture for nitromethane the flame front temperature measures 7050degrees F, 3800degrees C.
*nitromethane burns yellow, the spectacular white flame seen above the stacks at night is raw burning hydrogen, disassociated from atmospheric water vapour by the searing exhaust gases.
*dual magnetos supply 44 amps to each spark plug, this is the output of an arc welder in each cylinder.
*spark plug electrodes are totally consumed during a pass, after ½ way, the engine is dieseling from compression plus the glow of exhaust valves at 1400degrees F.the engine can only be shut down by cutting of the fuel flow.
*if momentarily fails early in the run ,unburned nitro builds up in the affected cylinders and then explodes with sufficient force to blow the cylinder heads off the block in pieces or split the block in half.
*in order to exceed 300 in 4.5 seconds dragsters must accelerate at an average of over 4G`s.in order to reach 200mph well before half track, the launch acceleration approaches 8G`s.
*dragsters reach over 300 miles per hour before you have completed reading this sentence.
*top fuel engines turn 540 revolutions from light to light!
*including the burnout the engine must only survive 900 revolutions under load.
*the red line is actually quite high at 9500rpm
*the bottom line; assuming all the equipment is paid off, the crew work for free, and for once NOTHING BLOWS UP, each run costs an estimated $1000.00 per second. the current top fuel dragster elapsed time record is 4.441 seconds for the quarter mile (05/10/03,tony Schumacher).the top speed record is 333.00mph(533km/h) as measured over the last 66` of the run,(28/9/03 doug kallita).

If that hasn’t made you think enough, let’s put all this into perspective:

You are riding the average $250,000 Honda motogp bike- a seriously fast machine. Over a mile up the road, a top fuel dragster is staged and ready to launch down a ¼ mile strip as you pass. You have the advantage of a flying start. you run the RC211V hard up through the gears and blast across the starting line and past the dragster at an honest 200mph (293ft/sec).the `tree` goes green for both of you at that moment. The dragster launches and starts after you .you keep your wrist cranked hard, but you hear an incredible brutal whine that sears your eardrums and within 3 seconds the dragster catches and passes you. he beats you to the finish line ,a quarter mile away from where YOU just passed him.
Think about it ,from the standing start ,the dragster had a 200mph disadvantage, and not only caught ,but nearly blasted you off the road when he passed you within a mere 1320 foot long drag strip.

well written and fascinating - dragters are utterly brutal - the sound, the smell and the resonance within your lungs utterly (to quote the Docter) - FANTASTIC!
Old 20 August 2006, 01:37 PM
  #5  
misty
Scooby Regular
 
misty's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: astra 1.9ctdi with dtuk green box. 195/300
Posts: 2,718
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

S.I.A.L. But still a good read.
dave
Old 20 August 2006, 02:53 PM
  #6  
GRIFF007
Scooby Regular
 
GRIFF007's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 823
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by misty
S.I.A.L. But still a good read.
dave
ok, enlighten me SIAL??
Old 20 August 2006, 03:25 PM
  #7  
GC8
Scooby Regular
 
GC8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Sheffield; Rome of the North
Posts: 17,582
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Think how fast it'd be with a dump valve..........
Old 20 August 2006, 10:59 PM
  #8  
wacky.banana
Scooby Regular
 
wacky.banana's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Posts: 1,379
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by GRIFF007
ok, enlighten me SIAL??
Griff,

SIAL = Scooby In A Lake. A particular pic of a Scoob in a lake came up so often on here that it got nauseatingly boring but gave rise to a useful 4 letter acronym. Anything that has been on here before and is repeated by the unwary gets SIAL posted after it.

Another oft seen SIAL is the infamous STI quad bike. If I got a pound for every time that has ben on here I could have retired by now.

BTW if you do a search someone came up with a list of all the acronyms used here eg LOL, BTW, IMHO, etc. Hope this helps (HTH).

WB
Old 20 August 2006, 11:31 PM
  #9  
Criss
Scooby Regular
 
Criss's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Ibiza
Posts: 597
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Bubba po
We'd have it in the twisties.

1/4 mile with a 90degree bend 1/2 would be a rather large spanner
Old 21 August 2006, 12:26 AM
  #10  
GRIFF007
Scooby Regular
 
GRIFF007's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 823
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Wink

Originally Posted by wacky.banana
Griff,

SIAL = Scooby In A Lake. A particular pic of a Scoob in a lake came up so often on here that it got nauseatingly boring but gave rise to a useful 4 letter acronym. Anything that has been on here before and is repeated by the unwary gets SIAL posted after it.

Another oft seen SIAL is the infamous STI quad bike. If I got a pound for every time that has ben on here I could have retired by now.

BTW if you do a search someone came up with a list of all the acronyms used here eg LOL, BTW, IMHO, etc. Hope this helps (HTH).

WB
brill cheers

ttfn
Old 21 August 2006, 01:23 AM
  #11  
Barmyclown
Scooby Regular
 
Barmyclown's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Lincoln, Yes I know it's Pink
Posts: 864
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Do you think they use Knocklink.
Old 21 August 2006, 08:42 PM
  #12  
shooter007
Scooby Regular
 
shooter007's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: west yorks
Posts: 662
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

good thought doppleganger every one should go down to the pod just once to see what real power looks and sounds like it really is awsome
Old 21 August 2006, 08:45 PM
  #13  
doppelganger
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
 
doppelganger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: 11.23@127mph second drag vw beetle with a stock subaru legacy engine and a 50 shot of gas
Posts: 222
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by shooter007
good thought doppleganger every one should go down to the pod just once to see what real power looks and sounds like it really is awsome
you can get a ride in a 2 seater 8 second dragster now

i must go down a 100 times a yr
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Peter L
ScoobyNet General
42
05 December 2023 06:02 PM
mark.125
Wales
4
29 October 2015 12:22 PM
domu
ScoobyNet General
7
03 October 2015 03:46 AM
oilman
Trader Announcements
15
01 October 2015 11:55 AM
ALi-B
Other Marques
18
28 September 2015 08:29 PM



Quick Reply: a lesson in acceleration



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 03:26 AM.