Safety camera partnerships - don't ya jus' love 'em.
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Safety camera partnerships - don't ya jus' love 'em.
Phil Davies the man in charge of south wales’ 244 speed cameras said,
I can put a van on a m/w bridge and get 100 motorists over 90mph in an hour ( I presume he’s boasting).
Mr Davies also revealed mobile cameras were now used just after fixed cameras in a bid to nail speed surfers who slow for a static camera and speed up immediately after.
(that’s very magnanimous of you Mr Davies).
Mr Davies said the public broadly supports cameras as a way of slashing road deaths.
Q. Do you support speed cameras if it can be proved that they slash road deaths?
A. yes
Q. Do you support speed cameras
A. no
I can assure you we get more requests for cameras than we get complaints.
Would that be:
Down the pub?
When people reply to the summons?
When they’re asking for directions from a friendly copper (assuming they still exist)? Asking that little old lady over there?
The Mid and South Wales safety camera partnership is the UK’s largest.
And why would that be? The population for the whole of wales is only 2.9m.
Is it to catch all those car mag testers who come over the bridge to use our roads?
Mr Davies you’re a merchant banker. And a well paid one, no doubt.
I can put a van on a m/w bridge and get 100 motorists over 90mph in an hour ( I presume he’s boasting).
Mr Davies also revealed mobile cameras were now used just after fixed cameras in a bid to nail speed surfers who slow for a static camera and speed up immediately after.
(that’s very magnanimous of you Mr Davies).
Mr Davies said the public broadly supports cameras as a way of slashing road deaths.
Q. Do you support speed cameras if it can be proved that they slash road deaths?
A. yes
Q. Do you support speed cameras
A. no
I can assure you we get more requests for cameras than we get complaints.
Would that be:
Down the pub?
When people reply to the summons?
When they’re asking for directions from a friendly copper (assuming they still exist)? Asking that little old lady over there?
The Mid and South Wales safety camera partnership is the UK’s largest.
And why would that be? The population for the whole of wales is only 2.9m.
Is it to catch all those car mag testers who come over the bridge to use our roads?
Mr Davies you’re a merchant banker. And a well paid one, no doubt.
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And that's the reason I hate going to Wales You can't look up from your speedo for more than 1 second and you never feel comfortable. It's a shame because they spoil a beautiful place
I don't drive over the limit deliberately but sometimes it's easy to do it by accident.
I don't drive over the limit deliberately but sometimes it's easy to do it by accident.
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What I will say is if you ever come over the new bridge when the road slows to 50mph half a mile from the tolls slow to it they get everyone from a van parked on a bridge above the booths... then if there is anything on in Cardiff at the stadium they are out in some order all the way down the M4.
I feel really bad for anyone that comes over then snap 3 points welcome to Wales £60 thank you you don't remember our lovely part of the country for the right reasons at all then.
Tailgaters now that's a subject not to start me going on I wish more efforts were put in other parts of the dangerous driving areas that happen below the speed limits.
What I will say is if you ever come over the new bridge when the road slows to 50mph half a mile from the tolls slow to it they get everyone from a van parked on a bridge above the booths... then if there is anything on in Cardiff at the stadium they are out in some order all the way down the M4.
I feel really bad for anyone that comes over then snap 3 points welcome to Wales £60 thank you you don't remember our lovely part of the country for the right reasons at all then.
Tailgaters now that's a subject not to start me going on I wish more efforts were put in other parts of the dangerous driving areas that happen below the speed limits.
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Originally Posted by Silver Scooby Sport
I live here
What I will say is if you ever come over the new bridge when the road slows to 50mph half a mile from the tolls slow to it they get everyone from a van parked on a bridge above the booths... then if there is anything on in Cardiff at the stadium they are out in some order all the way down the M4.
I feel really bad for anyone that comes over then snap 3 points welcome to Wales £60 thank you you don't remember our lovely part of the country for the right reasons at all then.
Tailgaters now that's a subject not to start me going on I wish more efforts were put in other parts of the dangerous driving areas that happen below the speed limits.
What I will say is if you ever come over the new bridge when the road slows to 50mph half a mile from the tolls slow to it they get everyone from a van parked on a bridge above the booths... then if there is anything on in Cardiff at the stadium they are out in some order all the way down the M4.
I feel really bad for anyone that comes over then snap 3 points welcome to Wales £60 thank you you don't remember our lovely part of the country for the right reasons at all then.
Tailgaters now that's a subject not to start me going on I wish more efforts were put in other parts of the dangerous driving areas that happen below the speed limits.
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Originally Posted by paulpalmer
Too true. I've been going to Wales for rally GB for years and quite often seen them parked up by the toll booths and on bridges over the M4. Once you get off the motorway they are then parked at the side of the road too so you are never safe
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Originally Posted by paulpalmer
Once you get off the motorway they are then parked at the side of the road too so you are never safe
Reading all the reports and studies, there seems to be no evidence that can show that the speed cameras have improved road safety.
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i was at a car show and safety camera partnership for the south west of england was there with a display and the head of the partnership told me that they give you 10% plus 2 mph over the speed limit before they prosecute the driver.the guy did seem to put up a good argument about how affective camera are.
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Yep, totally effective...
I visited Cardiff the other day and during two brief drives through the city during the day I saw three major accidents. One of those involved a car that was upside down in the road, another involved a Securicor van that appeared to have tried to occupy the same piece of road as another car going the other way. I guess that the last thing you can afford to pay attention to is what's going on around you, or traffic lights - not when you have to watch the speedo so closely
I visited Cardiff the other day and during two brief drives through the city during the day I saw three major accidents. One of those involved a car that was upside down in the road, another involved a Securicor van that appeared to have tried to occupy the same piece of road as another car going the other way. I guess that the last thing you can afford to pay attention to is what's going on around you, or traffic lights - not when you have to watch the speedo so closely
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It would be fair to assume that a large percentage of the financial input into Wales is from tourism. So let's just not go there !
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i was fortunate to drive all the way to tenby from liverpool last week and never saw one single camera the whole time i was there!!!! either that or my glasses are fu**ed can honestly say the roads i ended up on were the best roads ive ever driven in my scoob
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Went to the north part of Wales for the day 2 weeks ago. Not one camera, but the fear of one was with me all the way. There is a loonie police chief up those parts who sits in a speed camera van on his days off!
Great roads and in some places would be a nice drive in an Impreza (I was in my cruiser, the X type with the the wife)
The whole camera thing in the UK is a ££££££££££ machine, a simple profit centre to catch you, the safe considerate driver in a very competant car.
They are always at the bottom of gentle hills where speeds creep up
They are always lurking just around the corner
They are usually illegally parked
They love their work as they save countless lives on clear dual carriage ways where there are no junctions.
Easy policing, good stats to report, crime detected, fine served, records completed...Next!....thankyou, 'I got 100 doing 90, bet I beat you today...'
Canteen conversation at the end of shift dropping the money into the bank safe.
My daughter got touched-up by a pervert, could i find a policeman?
Like hell i could for 3 days.
Sipping coffee in a white van watching the world go by....
Mad!
Great roads and in some places would be a nice drive in an Impreza (I was in my cruiser, the X type with the the wife)
The whole camera thing in the UK is a ££££££££££ machine, a simple profit centre to catch you, the safe considerate driver in a very competant car.
They are always at the bottom of gentle hills where speeds creep up
They are always lurking just around the corner
They are usually illegally parked
They love their work as they save countless lives on clear dual carriage ways where there are no junctions.
Easy policing, good stats to report, crime detected, fine served, records completed...Next!....thankyou, 'I got 100 doing 90, bet I beat you today...'
Canteen conversation at the end of shift dropping the money into the bank safe.
My daughter got touched-up by a pervert, could i find a policeman?
Like hell i could for 3 days.
Sipping coffee in a white van watching the world go by....
Mad!
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Originally Posted by Group Captain Smudger
Mr Davies said the public broadly supports cameras as a way of slashing road deaths
Anyone else been asked this ??
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Originally Posted by Silver Scooby Sport
I live here
What I will say is if you ever come over the new bridge when the road slows to 50mph half a mile from the tolls slow to it they get everyone from a van parked on a bridge above the booths... then if there is anything on in Cardiff at the stadium they are out in some order all the way down the M4.
I feel really bad for anyone that comes over then snap 3 points welcome to Wales £60 thank you you don't remember our lovely part of the country for the right reasons at all then.
Tailgaters now that's a subject not to start me going on I wish more efforts were put in other parts of the dangerous driving areas that happen below the speed limits.
What I will say is if you ever come over the new bridge when the road slows to 50mph half a mile from the tolls slow to it they get everyone from a van parked on a bridge above the booths... then if there is anything on in Cardiff at the stadium they are out in some order all the way down the M4.
I feel really bad for anyone that comes over then snap 3 points welcome to Wales £60 thank you you don't remember our lovely part of the country for the right reasons at all then.
Tailgaters now that's a subject not to start me going on I wish more efforts were put in other parts of the dangerous driving areas that happen below the speed limits.
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Been to most places in the British Isles during the course of my job and recently i have been up and down the M4 to Swansea and i have never seen so many boy racer/maxpower types. Don't get me wrong, i dispise the cash cameras but in South Wales they have license to print money and these people must all be driving around burning rubber and listening to their peco big bores with their driving licenses loaded up to the b@llox with points.
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Wales is poor so they see it as a way to generate revenue. Shame is it spoils the tourist trade and puts people off going to a lovely place. I make a bike trip every year and have only seen cameras in the South. Avoid the obvious biker roads on the w/e and you don't get a problem....
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Originally Posted by moneys
i was fortunate to drive all the way to tenby from liverpool last week and never saw one single camera the whole time i was there!!!! either that or my glasses are fu**ed can honestly say the roads i ended up on were the best roads ive ever driven in my scoob
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