cw42

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What makes an sti "better" then it's lesser brother:

WR1 Bro

STi adds two inches to your *****
WRX only adds one inch to your *****

If you come to my house you will find three STi's and three WRX's.... that gives my ***** an extra 9 inches!!

scoobydooooo

drive one and see, there is a substantial difference imho

cw42

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Thanks for your constructive comments guys
I'll ask again: What makes an sti "better" than a wrx?


I've got one btw, and a huge member wr1 bro, so no more comments along those lines please

[Davey]

Think of it as a WRX on mild steroids. A bit harder and slighty more aggressive (but everyone knows its got a small *****).

The Chief

what about internally are they a lot stronget???

scoobfan

The STI uses stronger internals giving it the ability to take higher boost
and develop more power via a differing ECU.

The suspension is also tweaked to give better handaling.

It's just a more rally focused car.

Rob

billythekid

6 speeed box, brakes, suspension, engine, intercooler, seats, carpets, bodykit...

cw42

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ffs, where are all the experts on scoobynet, the real ones that can give you definative answers and proof when you need then?

It's just a more "rally focused car"! your kidding aren't you if you really believe that scoobfan, try taking a standard sti in any guise on a real rally stage and see how you do against a "proper" rally car

billythekid, you're nearly there, but carpets? bodykit? do they make it "better" ie faster, stronger, harder?

GREGGYG

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I've had 2 WRX's, a PPP 2003 and a PPP bugeye, and 2 STi's, 1 bugeye PPP, and 1 2003 standard STi.

STi plus points:

excellent, full on 6 speed gearbox
Brembo brakes (WRX standard brakes are very poor)
more torque, especially at high speeds
feels a lot more stable on sweeping bends
better engine in many ways (read the Subaru STi brochure)
larger intercooler
quicker steering
sharper handling
better material seats
smaller steering wheel
doesn't really need Prodrive or equivilent springs (WRX does)
Doesn't really need rear droplinks (WRX benefits a lot from these)

I'm sure there's lots more I haven't mentioned, but the STi is basically a very focused drivers car, whereas the WRX is more 'watered down', still very good though! If you bought a WRX first without ever driving an STi, you would think it was superb, probably one of the best cars you have ever driven, but...........the STi is a lot better! Hope this helps, and chaps on here who talk too much about the length of their genitals are obviously suffering from insecurity issues in those areas!!! Ha ha ha!

swtmerce

I would only add that due to the engine internals (pistons and valvetrain upgrades) the STi can rev higher too. I used to have a newage WRX and now I have a classic STi and the difference is unbelievable. I am one happy chappy!

cw42

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^^^^now, those are proper answers
Thanks to greggyg and swtmerce for bringing us back to earth and giving good answers (despite the genital comment )


ANY MORE?

swtmerce

Just dug out IWOC material. Regarding a version 4 STi:
Steel crankshaft
forged pistons
STI ECU, intercooler, inlet manifold, exhaust
Uprated engine mounts
STI gearbox
STI quickshift
STI clutch
STI suspension
STI ARB
STI strut brace
aluminium wishbones
stronger bushes
braided wiring
4 pots
better pads

The Chief

Chris - we'd better not let Martin read this.

scoobfan

I think your confused mate, or should I say expert

Do you get water spray on a WRX - No
Do you get DCCD on a WRX - No

Therefore it is more rally focused

Dig a hole

Rob

kilo_4que

do remember the classic stis didnt have a 6 spd gearbox

The Chief

And......

The Chief

I think Chris (CW42) wants to get down to the technical nitty gritty of the Blobeye STI. and why its better than the WRX

swtmerce

In that case all I can add is that the STi has the Suretrac diff which the WRX doesn't. In fact this might be the case for classics too

cw42

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Better remove the link off amita then

scoobfan, water spray and dccd do not a rally car make! And it's only recently that uk sti's even had dccd, up until 05, we've all had to make do with suretrac difs.

Some good stuff coming out guys, any more?

scoobfan

I said more rally focused, please read peoples interpretation a little better so as not to make one look silly

Rob

kilo_4que

And the fact that two people in the thread have mentioned 6 speed gearboxes as being a difference, they need to emphasise it is not the case with classic Stis

d5hof

all i kno is i'm loving my bug eye sti

scoobydooooo

tell him to look at the specs on the subaru website then , as all he seems to be doing on here is poo pooing what people are telling him , if he wants specs LOOK IT UP !!

Bartop

Before answering this properley you have to define what you mean by better.

Faster, Stronger, harder does not mean 'better' for everyone..

Easier to drive, less in your face styling, better compromise in terms of handling/comfort. All these could be used to describe how the WRX is 'better' than the Sti.

Oh..and it's cheaper ...all depends on what you're wanting..

The Chief

Exactly what i told him

he said 'he couldn't be bothered'

scoobfan

Good point old chap

Rob

Peanuts

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interpretation is just that numptie

scoobfan

Back in ya cage

Rob

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